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[Jim44]

Game lost by Russell. Hard kicks but he’s a pro.

[Scorrie]

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Gone are the days of total silence for kicks.

The Aviva stadium in Dublin is still pretty good to be fair

[Trinity Hibee]

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Game lost by Russell. Hard kicks but he’s a pro.

To miss all 3 at this level is completely on him. Questionable officials today too

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Not long ago a single point defeat at Twickenham would be a creditable result but that's a poor defeat to a pretty feeble England side.

[Jim44]

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To miss all 3 at this level is completely on him. Questionable officials today too

I commented at the National Anthems that Finn Russell looked edgy and not too up for it. I think it turned out that way.

[Scorrie]

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I commented at the National Anthems that Finn Russell looked edgy and not too up for it. I think it turned out that way.

He may have put his Lions place at risk as well

[GreenGray]

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Game lost by Russell. Hard kicks but he’s a pro.

Nah, game was lost by not taking our chances in England’s 22. If Scotland aren’t scoring off the first phase they can’t score at all. Must be one of the worst teams at building phases.


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[Sylar]

Im fed up with a losing Scotland side. I’ve nothing progressive or insightful to add. Finn can get a rest next 2 games, and Toony can piss off after the France game.

[cabbageandribs1875]

things can't be too bad if we're bitterly disappointed we lost that by a single point at Twickers, so did France

if only we didn't give away so many cheap penalties we would all be sitting here celebrating yet another win against them, and in their own backyard

our game v Ireland is still really the only terribly poor performance so far

England players/fans will all know for sure they got away with one today

[Greenbeard]

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To miss all 3 at this level is completely on him. Questionable officials today too

Agree x2. And not just re the England try not being grounded. Scotland penalised for several illegal turnovers by England and the penalty for the head clash was an absolute nonsense. Rowe is passive, maybe even going backwards and Chessum charges into him head first, butting Rowe on the side of the head. Should have been a yellow against him!
As for Russell's missed kicks when do you ever see three unconverted tries at this level these days. Mind, you could see from VDM's reaction after dotting it down that he knew he should have tried to get more central.
No doubt the Toony slayers will be out in force again but check these stats from the BBC:
Scotland had 59% of territory and 58% possession.
Outscored England three tries to one
Carried 936m to 474m
Gained 521m to 323m
Mande nine line breaks to two
Beat 35 defenders to 10
Made 247 passes to 99

But of course it was Gregor's fault we lost.

[Just_Jimmy]

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Im fed up with a losing Scotland side. I’ve nothing progressive or insightful to add. Finn can get a rest next 2 games, and Toony can piss off after the France game.

Sums up how I feel too. You know I've long had my doubts over townsend but enough is enough.

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[McD]

Russell will get the criticism for missing the kicks, especially the first one. I also thought we did a piss poor job of managing phases in England’s 22. How many times did we go through several phases of rucks up to England’s line but never get across for the score? You can’t do that in top level rugby and not come away with multiple scores.


There was a tipping point where the ref gave England a huge favour by giving a penalty in favour of Maro Otodje, who had pinned the ball in a ruck but was lying on the back on another England player, not supporting his own weight at all. From that they kicked to touch, won another penalty from the line out and went ahead from the penalty kick. That’s not to say Scotland still shouldn’t have won the match, but it was a pivotal error by the referee imo.

[Trinity Hibee]

Can someone explain why englands first try was given? It wasn’t even looked at. Admittedly I’m more used to VAR in football overanalysing everything but surely you have to pick up if it’s a try or not. I thought even in real time it didn’t look grounded

[Sylar]

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Can someone explain why englands first try was given? It wasn’t even looked at. Admittedly I’m more used to VAR in football overanalysing everything but surely you have to pick up if it’s a try or not. I thought even in real time it didn’t look grounded

Gave it as a try on the field so needed comprehensive evidence to overturn it. It looked held up to me too, but wasn't clear and definitive enough to overturn it.

Felt like the try vs France we didn't get last year, FWIW, but the on-field decision was the main factor.

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Gave it as a try on the field so needed comprehensive evidence to overturn it. It looked held up to me too, but wasn't clear and definitive enough to overturn it.

Felt like the try vs France we didn't get last year, FWIW, but the on-field decision was the main factor.

I could understand all of that if it wasn’t clear that it wasn’t grounded. To me there wasn’t any doubt that ball wasnt down. The fact it was barely even mentioned maybe shows the difference between rugby and football. Football would be discussing a major decision like that for days.

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Can someone explain why englands first try was given? It wasn’t even looked at. Admittedly I’m more used to VAR in football overanalysing everything but surely you have to pick up if it’s a try or not. I thought even in real time it didn’t look grounded

I was listening on the car radio at that stage and the commentary team seemed to think that while there's no conclusive camera evidence, the tip of the ball touched the turf.

The ref was right beside it so I guess he had the best view.

[cabbageandribs1875]

this is a great game so far HT Italy 17 France 35


interesting Brian O'Driscoll thought the same as i mentioned yesterday in that Finn Russell kick was taken far too quick, i knew it was quick but he said 10 seconds which was just incredible, a hugely important kick with plenty time left for him to steady himself but it just seems like he had a rush of blood to the head


still 7th in the world rankings so Townsend is still doing alright, i really don't know where some think we should be in the rankings, above England maybe but there's some great sides higher than us, we're still above the Aussies

some superb rugby from the French

60 mins 22-54 lovely kick 24-54
64 mins what a try 24-61
75 mins 24-68
79 mins 24-73

FT 97 points in a six nations game yikes
hugely embarrassing for the Italians

[Greenbeard]

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this is a great game so far HT Italy 17 France 35


interesting Brian O'Driscoll thought the same as i mentioned yesterday in that Finn Russell kick was taken far too quick, i knew it was quick but he said 10 seconds which was just incredible, a hugely important kick with plenty time left for him to steady himself but it just seems like he had a rush of blood to the head


still 7th in the world rankings so Townsend is still doing alright, i really don't know where some think we should be in the rankings, above England maybe but there's some great sides higher than us, we're still above the Aussies

some superb rugby from the French

60 mins 22-54 lovely kick 24-54
64 mins what a try 24-61
75 mins 24-68
79 mins 24-73

FT 97 points in a six nations game yikes
hugely embarrassing for the Italians

Someone told me today that the ref made Russell move 2m closer to the touch-line after he had started getting set for the conversion. Didn't see that on tv. But TV almost missed showing the conversion and it did seem to be taken very quickly. Maybe he lost track of the countdown clock after re-setting? Or did he rush so that in the event that he missed, there was time for the re-start? No shot clock on screen from what I saw.

[JimBHibees]

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things can't be too bad if we're bitterly disappointed we lost that by a single point at Twickers, so did France

if only we didn't give away so many cheap penalties we would all be sitting here celebrating yet another win against them, and in their own backyard

our game v Ireland is still really the only terribly poor performance so far

England players/fans will all know for sure they got away with one today

Thought Scotland were very good to watch with ball in hand and England had no answer. Should have won that comfortably

[JimBHibees]

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Someone told me today that the ref made Russell move 2m closer to the touch-line after he had started getting set for the conversion. Didn't see that on tv. But TV almost missed showing the conversion and it did seem to be taken very quickly. Maybe he lost track of the countdown clock after re-setting? Or did he rush so that in the event that he missed, there was time for the re-start? No shot clock on screen from what I saw.

Yes tv only had side angle he took it so quick. Absolutely the time to be composing yourself and using as much time as able to.

[Jones28]

Can't believe Russell was 0 from 3 kicks yesterday. Takes one of them and the game is won despite it not being a sparkling performance.

That penalty Itoje won was a real kick in the balls but we can look at ourselves and say why were we not quicker to get bodies in there.

My son was born in 2021 and it's the first time he's seen us lose to England. Not that he cares but he's lost his streak.

I'm torn on Townsend, I don't know enough about rugby really but it seems like when it comes to the crunch we just don't have enough in the tank.

The squad is now coming to a point where the best players are getting on a bit - what happens when these guys are finished? Is there talent coming through?

[JeMeSouviens]

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Someone told me today that the ref made Russell move 2m closer to the touch-line after he had started getting set for the conversion. Didn't see that on tv. But TV almost missed showing the conversion and it did seem to be taken very quickly. Maybe he lost track of the countdown clock after re-setting? Or did he rush so that in the event that he missed, there was time for the re-start? No shot clock on screen from what I saw.

Shocker from the ref...

https://x.com/Jamiehuwroberts/status...58251629092962

[Greenbeard]

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Shocker from the ref...

https://x.com/Jamiehuwroberts/status...58251629092962

And from Itoje in that clip. Noticeable that VDM is escorting him away from Russell. Sledging?

[Trinity Hibee]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-un...s/cx2gn3z2l72o

2 photos show the kick position here too

[cabbageandribs1875]

a shame SA player Steven Kitshoff has had to retire at just 33 due to a neck injury

[cabbageandribs1875]

great result for Edinburgh at Munster last night winning 34-28


2nd Top Glasgow getting a bit of a doin in the early stages v 2nd Bottom Ospreys 0-15 they're lucky Ospreys have missed all their con attempts



Glasgow pull one back 7-15

1st half bonus point for Ospreys 12-22

Glasgow Try & con right on HT 19-22


Glasgow try & con to go ahead 31-29 with just seconds remaining, all they had to do was secure the restart and kick it out but they made an absolute erse of it and gave away the penalty FT 31-32 Ospreys first win at Scotstoun for nine years, so amateur

[Sylar]

Glasgow were positively Edinburgh-esque yesterday…

[cabbageandribs1875]

first win in twelve for Scotland, FT v Wales 27-12

England 33 Italy 24

Ireland 12 France 22

[cabbageandribs1875]

not many times Ireland have conceded this amount of points, great 2nd 40 from the French FT Ireland 27 France 42, couple of Irish tries in the last few minutes to gain a BP, wonder if that will make a difference next week

[J-C]

Cracking start here, 2 very good tries, need a confident performance after that defeat against England.