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    Apparently Michael Gove thinks the IDF should be give The Nobel Peace Prize.


    https://www.thejc.com/opinion/the-id...prize-xmppkld8


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Apparently Michael Gove thinks the IDF should be give The Nobel Peace Prize.


    https://www.thejc.com/opinion/the-id...prize-xmppkld8
    No mention of the (minimum) 50,000 dead, many, many thousands injured, the total destruction of homes and infrastructure, murder of aid workers and a litany of other war crimes they have committed.

    Yeah, I can see why that may be provocative, Mikey boy.

    I can only assume he's off his head on something.

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    Should the thread title now be changed to 'The Israeli Terrorist Invasion of Palestine'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Apparently Michael Gove thinks the IDF should be give The Nobel Peace Prize.


    https://www.thejc.com/opinion/the-id...prize-xmppkld8
    Snake, must be missing being in the spotlight and very likely some form of hallucinogenic is involved here.

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    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Some excellent articles on this website, well worth a visit

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    Meanwhile, it looks like the ceasefire is about to collapse. Trump,saying Israel should let 'all hell break loose' if the hostages are not released.

    I assume he hasn't seen the current state of Gaza.

    I don't know what the aim of Hamas is here by suspending the release but an emboldened Israel is just going to kill many thousands more as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Meanwhile, it looks like the ceasefire is about to collapse. Trump,saying Israel should let 'all hell break loose' if the hostages are not released.

    I assume he hasn't seen the current state of Gaza.

    I don't know what the aim of Hamas is here by suspending the release but an emboldened Israel is just going to kill many thousands more as a result.
    To be fair, when the other lot are bragging about you being ethnically cleansed soon then might be rethinking your options?


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    Israel cuts electricity to Gaza

    very little food and now no electricity


    over 61k murdered
    over 14k missing


    just shameful

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875 View Post
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    Israel cuts electricity to Gaza

    very little food and now no electricity


    over 61k murdered
    over 14k missing


    just shameful
    It's despicable and not a word from Europe (I can only assume the US agrees) as Israel continues it's genocidal policies against Palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    It's despicable and not a word from Europe (I can only assume the US agrees) as Israel continues it's genocidal policies against Palestinians.
    Yes completely shameful from Europe where has our ethical (no laughing at the back) foreign policy gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Yes completely shameful from Europe where has our ethical (no laughing at the back) foreign policy gone
    I would expect as Europe decouples from the US that slowly but surely their govts will move more in line with their populations with regard to the Middle East and Palestine.
    The threat from Russia is what concerns everyone more just now though. Correctly IMO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I would expect as Europe decouples from the US that slowly but surely their govts will move more in line with their populations with regard to the Middle East and Palestine.
    The threat from Russia is what concerns everyone more just now though. Correctly IMO.

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    I'm not sure that Germany would withdraw support for Israel under any circumstances, barring an AfD government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    I'm not sure that Germany would withdraw support for Israel under any circumstances, barring an AfD government.


    Was just about to post something similar.

    I watch some fantastic TV shows in Germany that highlight and criticize the worst politicians, including the AFD, Trump, Putin, etc but never criticise Israel.... or even mention the atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    Was just about to post something similar.

    I watch some fantastic TV shows in Germany that highlight and criticize the worst politicians, including the AFD, Trump, Putin, etc but never criticise Israel.... or even mention the atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank.
    I've seen plenty of criticism of Israel in the media and even from some politicians, but hell will freeze over before a German government would side with their enemies. They do however send an enormous amount of non military aid to the Palestinians. It's all a bit schizophrenic.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czje23jd779t


    Israel bombing Gaza again and blame Hamas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czje23jd779t


    Israel bombing Gaza again and blame Hamas
    No surprise there, I fully expected this to happen. The genocide continues, the denial of food, water and medical aid to civilians is a war crime and supported by our Prime Minister. Shame doesn’t begin to cover it.

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    In a shock to no one Israel admits to killing 15 aid workers and that the original account given by soldiers was a pile of lies.

    I'm sure the soldiers concerned will be given medals for this particular crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKHIBEE View Post
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    No surprise there, I fully expected this to happen. The genocide continues, the denial of food, water and medical aid to civilians is a war crime and supported by our Prime Minister. Shame doesn’t begin to cover it.
    The Western leadership has been sorely lacking and asleep at the wheel

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    I see the Israelis are now creating a 1km 'buffer zone' around the border of Gaza (on the Gaza side, obviously).

    They're demolishing everything, and have free reign to kill everybody within this area, Red Crescent and UN aid workers included


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...stimony-report


    Starmer, Macron, Scholz (and Merz), et-al... where is the criticism of these heinous events?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    I see the Israelis are now creating a 1km 'buffer zone' around the border of Gaza (on the Gaza side, obviously).

    They're demolishing everything, and have free reign to kill everybody within this area, Red Crescent and UN aid workers included


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...stimony-report


    Starmer, Macron, Scholz (and Merz), et-al... where is the criticism of these heinous events?

    Was just about to post this link. Good on the military personnel for speaking out and telling as it is. Absolutely brutal stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    I see the Israelis are now creating a 1km 'buffer zone' around the border of Gaza (on the Gaza side, obviously).

    They're demolishing everything, and have free reign to kill everybody within this area, Red Crescent and UN aid workers included


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...stimony-report


    Starmer, Macron, Scholz (and Merz), et-al... where is the criticism of these heinous events?

    Starmer’s too busy shafting the poor, sick, disabled and elderly in this country. Not that he would criticise them anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKHIBEE View Post
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    Starmer’s too busy shafting the poor, sick, disabled and elderly in this country. Not that he would criticise them anyway.
    Didn’t he advocate cutting the water and power to Gaza?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Didn’t he advocate cutting the water and power to Gaza?


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    When?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamig View Post
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    When?
    https://x.com/MiddleEastMnt/status/1742919127290003852

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bee View Post
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    When was this? Do we know that’s still his stance now?

    * edit I see its from Jan 24. A lot has changed in Gaza since then. Not that I’m defending that position even in the early days of the invasion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Didn’t he advocate cutting the water and power to Gaza?


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    He commented that Israel had a legal right to deprive the Gazans of food, water and power


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