Hamas attack on Israel

[Ozyhibby]

Peace deal between Isreal and Lebanon. Let’s hope it holds.


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[Moulin Yarns]

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Peace deal between Isreal and Lebanon. Let’s hope it holds.


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60 day ceasefire not a peace deal, just time to regroup.

[Bristolhibby]

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I'm not really getting the hostages thing anymore. It's not giving Hamas any leverage as Gaza is totally destroyed, hundreds of thousands are dead or injured, with many more starving.

Hand them over. I presume the remaining ones are dead anyway.

All this does is give Israel an excuse to continue to kill more innocent civilians in the name of hostage retrieval.

Or just hand their bodies back. Like you say, zero leverage either way.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

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60 day ceasefire not a peace deal, just time to regroup.

No you've read it wrong. Over the next 60 days hezbollah will move it's forces from the border and be replaced by Lebanese government forces, that's happening just now. Over the same 60 days Israel will remove all forces from Lebanon. Civilians will be allowed to start returning from next week. It's a permanent ceasefire.

Le Beck analysts I read last in October estimated it would be over by late December. The pager attack and air strikes took out basically the whole of hezbollahs command structure. The Lebanese army say they want the opportunity to retake control of the country but they need more weapons and funds they say.

Afp saying senior Hamas officials are saying they might do similar

Michael A. Horowitz
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A senior #Hamas official told AFP that the group is "ready" for a ceasefire in the #Gaza Strip.

The Hamas official described the cease-fire in Lebanon as "a victory and a huge achievement for the resistance," and said that "Hamas is ready for a cease-fire agreement" as well as a hostage-release deal

[Moulin Yarns]

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No you've read it wrong. Over the next 60 days hezbollah will move it's forces from the border and be replaced by Lebanese government forces, that's happening just now. Over the same 60 days Israel will remove all forces from Lebanon. Civilians will be allowed to start returning from next week. It's a permanent ceasefire.

Le Beck analysts I read last in October estimated it would be over by late December. The pager attack and air strikes took out basically the whole of hezbollahs command structure. The Lebanese army say they want the opportunity to retake control of the country but they need more weapons and funds they say.

Afp saying senior Hamas officials are saying they might do similar

Michael A. Horowitz
@michaelh992
A senior #Hamas official told AFP that the group is "ready" for a ceasefire in the #Gaza Strip.

The Hamas official described the cease-fire in Lebanon as "a victory and a huge achievement for the resistance," and said that "Hamas is ready for a cease-fire agreement" as well as a hostage-release deal

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ygn5579gvo

Read it and weap!!!

[Stairway 2 7]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ygn5579gvo

Read it and weap!!!

Mate it's OK to make a mistake I do it all the time, it's not a competition. You said its a 60 day ceasefire, it's not. Families have started moving into their homes again just now. The Lebanese army has also started moving tanks into the area.

An opinion piece saying the ceasefire won't last doesn't change that, I've seen others that say hezbollahs whole command structure is gone and they won't regroup for a few years.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6273139ed4o

"Peace deal" lasted well!!!

A few days of "ceasefire" in name only.

[Hibrandenburg]

Are the Israeli population seeing the same pictures we get to see? If so, then the sight of malnourished refugees and dead children must surely be ringing some bells.

[Bristolhibby]

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Are the Israeli population seeing the same pictures we get to see? If so, then the sight of malnourished refugees and dead children must surely be ringing some bells.

There’s weekly protests in Tel Aviv. Until Netanyahu and his vomit inducing right wing nutters that prop him up are gone then there’s nowt that can be done.

He needs the war to galvanise his party and the nutters.

Not sure when the election is but surely his time is up. But like Sunak but less killing. Dead man walking. (And indicted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity and Genocide).

J

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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There’s weekly protests in Tel Aviv. Until Netanyahu and his vomit inducing right wing nutters that prop him up are gone then there’s nowt that can be done.

He needs the war to galvanise his party and the nutters.

Not sure when the election is but surely his time is up. But like Sunak but less killing. Dead man walking. (And indicted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity and Genocide).

J

quite remarkable that the world throw up these aberrations that turn things over and we never seem to learn. The forlorn wish of the generation that suffered immensely in “the Great War” -that it be “the war to end all wars”. Such a suffering and waste. And why?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Syria: New government's school curriculum changes spark concern - BBC News


they've been saying the right things until this

The Education Minister, Nazir al-Qadri, downplayed the move, saying the curriculum is essentially unchanged


i disagree

The phrase "Defending the nation" has been replaced by "Defending Allah", among other changes.

Defending the nation has bugger all to do with Assad so why change it in the first place , i won't be the only one waiting on things to turn sour and all the early promises dropped, here's hoping all us doubters will be wrong

[Stairway 2 7]

Qatar, Palestinian and Israeli sources are all saying a deal is close to being concluded today for a ceasefire and hostage swap. Hopefully gets concluded and Netanyahu falls soon post this

[DaveF]

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Qatar, Palestinian and Israeli sources are all saying a deal is close to being concluded today for a ceasefire and hostage swap. Hopefully gets concluded and Netanyahu falls soon post this

I do hope so but I doubt it will stop the Israeli army from doing what they do best and killing a few hundred more people just for the bantz.

Netanyahu's place as a genocidal maniac is assured. He should be on trial.

[Bristolhibby]

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I do hope so but I doubt it will stop the Israeli army from doing what they do best and killing a few hundred more people just for the bantz.

Netanyahu's place as a genocidal maniac is assured. He should be on trial.

If he ever sets foot in Europe he will be. There’s an arrest warrant out on him.

J

[Stairway 2 7]

Hamas announce a deal has been agreed and Multiple sources saying Israel is saying the same with an announcement from Netanyahu and Biden imminent

[jamie_1875]

Did the Trump effect play a part? He is certainly taking credit claiming "we did a deal" he did say a few days ago if he was President and the war was still ongoing there would "big problems like nobody had seen before" if no deal was struck.

Can imagine Benjamin Netanyahu was probably thinking no way I want to deal with Trump so let's do a deal!

[Ozyhibby]

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Did the Trump effect play a part? He is certainly taking credit claiming "we did a deal" he did say a few days ago if he was President and the war was still ongoing there would "big problems like nobody had seen before" if no deal was struck.

Can imagine Benjamin Netanyahu was probably thinking no way I want to deal with Trump so let's do a deal!

He can say what he likes but the deal is being done under a Biden presidency.


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[Berwickhibby]

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He can say what he likes but the deal is being done under a Biden presidency.


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Who cares who claims the credit…as long as the killing stops which imho is paramount

[Keith_M]

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Who cares who claims the credit…as long as the killing stops which imho is paramount

I hope to se the hostages that have been held for so long, and having gone through an incredible trauma, finally released.... and for the citizens of Gaza finally freed from continued bombing, starvation and turmoil.

[Bristolhibby]

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Did the Trump effect play a part? He is certainly taking credit claiming "we did a deal" he did say a few days ago if he was President and the war was still ongoing there would "big problems like nobody had seen before" if no deal was struck.

Can imagine Benjamin Netanyahu was probably thinking no way I want to deal with Trump so let's do a deal!

This was the point the news was making. The deal was the same one that’s been on the table since May and agreed by Hamas. Biden couldn’t bring Netanyahu to heel. Trump it seems can.

I want to know what Trump has promised Netenhau in return to placate his right wing nutters before I heap praise on Trump.

Also Trump has to act as guarantor of the deal and keep Israel in line.

J

[DaveF]

Just the 71 killed post announcement. I suspect there will be hundreds more who die before any ceasefire takes effect.

[Hibs4185]

Deal could be stalled according to the news this morning. Israel saying Hamas has backtracked on a couple of points.

Although in an interview, a diplomat was saying these last minute tactics are quite common to try and gain some points here and there.

Hopefully doesn’t derail the whole thing

[tamig]

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Deal could be stalled according to the news this morning. Israel saying Hamas has backtracked on a couple of points.

Although in an interview, a diplomat was saying these last minute tactics are quite common to try and gain some points here and there.

Hopefully doesn’t derail the whole thing

Seemingly its a dispute on the names of prisoners held by the Israelis that Hamas want released. Can’t see the deal failing though.

[MKHIBEE]

The news that the ceasefire is scheduled to start on Sunday means that the Israelis will still be killing Palestinians next week and blaming Hamas, claiming they broke the ceasefire

[DaveF]

First of the hostages released. Hopefully this holds.

[DaveF]

Israel now stepping up actions in the West Bank, and with crackpots in the US Govt openly say Yes to Israel having 'biblical rights' to annexing it, what's to stop them.

[Bristolhibby]

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Israel now stepping up actions in the West Bank, and with crackpots in the US Govt openly say Yes to Israel having 'biblical rights' to annexing it, what's to stop them.

That’s Gaza ****ed, Lebanon degraded, Syria neutralised, time to move back to the West Bank. Trump will be giving a big thumbs up to Netanyahu to craic on.

J

[Bishop Hibee]

Four ‘hostages’ being released by Hamas. Am I missing something but surely they are Prisoners of War as they are in the Israeli army. Good to see though. The ratio appears to be around one Israeli to around seventy Palestinians.

[Keith_M]

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Four ‘hostages’ being released by Hamas. Am I missing something but surely they are Prisoners of War as they are in the Israeli army. Good to see though. The ratio appears to be around one Israeli to around seventy Palestinians.

They were part of the group kidnapped during the October 7th attack. There was no 'war' at the time.

[Colr]

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Four ‘hostages’ being released by Hamas. Am I missing something but surely they are Prisoners of War as they are in the Israeli army. Good to see though. The ratio appears to be around one Israeli to around seventy Palestinians.

It doesn’t feel like this is the end point the Isrealis were looking for. I think this is a pause and reset not a conclusion.