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He did a decent job but surely a knighthood, if you place any weight on such things, should be reserved for those who actually achieve tangible success? Bob Paisley won infinitely more than Southgate at the highest level and got an OBE, Bill Shankly likewise.

When you knight a guy for losing in 2 finals and reaching the WC semi and quarter finals then you leave no scope to go anywhere should an English manager ever actually have any notable success again (which admittedly looks a long way off with the current crop but you never know). 'Well done mate, here's the same honour as that guy who failed before you'. One of them actually winning their domestic league would be a bigger achievement than what Southgate achieved given Howard Wilkinson must be about 125 now.
In that case I give you Jock Stein.