Gareth Southgate Knighthood

[JimBHibees]

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Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

Absolutely

[hibsbollah]

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Not my point. I'm asking if they should also be 'up against the wall'.

Your initial point was; ‘Southgate did a great job as England boss. Arguably the best ever. Doesn't seem outrageous to me that he's been honoured.’

[JimBHibees]

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My brother-in-law turned down his: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Pugh

Wow really interesting read and incredibly inspirational guy. Are you able to say why he turned it down?

[Keith_M]

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Not my point. I'm asking if they should also be 'up against the wall'.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I don't think he was being serious.

[Colr]

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Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

This!

[Colr]

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For services to taking one of international football's powerhouse nations with the richest and most glamorous league in the world to pick players from and winning bugger all with it ..... seems a nice bloke though, I bear him no ill will.

…probably putting up with all the bile and ***** the English press throw at him. Don’t know who would do that job and enjoy it.

[Northernhibee]

Think this is a bit of fake news - he got all the way up to the last stage of opening the letter but at the final moment, just before victory, shat the bed and curled up into a ball.

[gbhibby]

What has he won as a manager 🤔

[Albert Kidd 86’]

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My brother-in-law turned down his: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Pugh

your brother in law is an amazing person, truly inspirational. Thanks for sharing.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

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There will be nothing even resembling a proper revolution in the UK in this world or the next ����

Back on topic, as they give out peerages and honours like confetti to all kinds of weirdos, Southgate getting a knighthood isn't that unbelievable tbh

haven’t you heard? The revolution starts 2pm sharp outside a Pink bus shelter day after tomorrow ( according to the stats)

as regards honours list, wasn’t Jimmy Saville given one,( an hounor that is!), (but you never know with that family), by HRH and later the Pope? Says it all really, would not want to be on a list with Sir James Saville on it.

[Scouse Hibee]

Well deserved Sir Gareth, the best England manager in my lifetime so far.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Has to be a case for Sir Anne Budge

[McIntosh]

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Don’t remember hearing of him before, sounds an exceptional person. Added his books to my reading list.

Didn’t see any mention of turning down a knighthood or the reasons why. Fair play to him!

He will probably be annoyed at me mentioning it, but in for a penny, in for a pound. To his great credit, he turned it down to the then Government's policies in relation to the environment. In the week he turned it down, he was actually sounded out about joining the same Government, and that would have meant a peerage!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[McIntosh]

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Wow really interesting read and incredibly inspirational guy. Are you able to say why he turned it down?

The then Government's environmental policies, particularly micro plastics, it has been well established that they are now in the food chain and now are in human beings.

[Smartie]

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Well deserved Sir Gareth, the best England manager in my lifetime so far.

I find the disrespect constantly shown to him baffling.

As someone who doesn’t particularly want England to win anything, I’m glad he’s gone. He was getting very, very close, and in the modern era managing to keep a group of egotistical (albeit talented) young dafties pointed in the same direction and co-operating with one another really shouldn’t be sniffed at.

History will judge him favourably imo.

[AngloHibs]

The only player ever to captain The Boro to a major trophy!
Sir Gareth's recognition is well-deserved, but it should have been 20 years ago.

[Albert Kidd 86’]

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The then Government's environmental policies, particularly micro plastics, it has been well established that they are now in the found chain and now are in human beings.

thanks for sharing.

He is absolutely correct, micro plastics are now found in breast milk, most probably getting there from a seafood diet or from drinking water.

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[GreenNWhiteArmy]

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What has he won as a manager 🤔

Toulon tournament. 2016

Arise Sir Gareth...

In fairness. He's without a doubt their best modern manager. Time will tell whether he over or under achieved though. Imo, it falls under the latter

[JimBHibees]

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The then Government's environmental policies, particularly micro plastics, it has been well established that they are now in the food chain and now are in human beings.

Ok thanks

[He's here!]

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I find the disrespect constantly shown to him baffling.

As someone who doesn’t particularly want England to win anything, I’m glad he’s gone. He was getting very, very close, and in the modern era managing to keep a group of egotistical (albeit talented) young dafties pointed in the same direction and co-operating with one another really shouldn’t be sniffed at.

History will judge him favourably imo.

It's an anti-England thing, that's all. Guy did a great job.

[overdrive]

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Anyone turned theirs down yet? Thats the only point that the whole forelock-tugging charade becomes interesting for me.

I lose respect for anyone who actually accepts an “honour”.

[The Baldmans Comb]

The English and their honours system is very weird though nothing compared to the Scots who buy into this complete nonsense.

[A Hi-Bee]

Ha, let them eat cake, what a crazy system when some cannot even afford to put heating on.

[Pretty Boy]

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It's an anti-England thing, that's all. Guy did a great job.

He did a decent job but surely a knighthood, if you place any weight on such things, should be reserved for those who actually achieve tangible success? Bob Paisley won infinitely more than Southgate at the highest level and got an OBE, Bill Shankly likewise.

When you knight a guy for losing in 2 finals and reaching the WC semi and quarter finals then you leave no scope to go anywhere should an English manager ever actually have any notable success again (which admittedly looks a long way off with the current crop but you never know). 'Well done mate, here's the same honour as that guy who failed before you'. One of them actually winning their domestic league would be a bigger achievement than what Southgate achieved given Howard Wilkinson must be about 125 now.

[A Hi-Bee]

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He did a decent job but surely a knighthood, if you place any weight on such things, should be reserved for those who actually achieve tangible success? Bob Paisley won infinitely more than Southgate at the highest level and got an OBE, Bill Shankly likewise.

When you knight a guy for losing in 2 finals and reaching the WC semi and quarter finals then you leave no scope to go anywhere should an English manager ever actually have any notable success again (which admittedly looks a long way off with the current crop but you never know). 'Well done mate, here's the same honour as that guy who failed before you'. One of them actually winning their domestic league would be a bigger achievement than what Southgate achieved given Howard Wilkinson must be about 125 now.

In that case I give you Jock Stein.

[easty]

Imagine they’d actually won something under Southgate…would he have been installed as 3rd in line to the throne?

[easty]

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I lose respect for anyone who actually accepts an “honour”.

Yep

[CropleyWasGod]

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In that case I give you Jock Stein.

I have often wondered whether he declined a knighthood, although he did have a CBE.

[greenginger]

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I lose respect for anyone who actually accepts an “honour”.

I don’t think Sir Tom Farmer will lose any sleep.

[A Hi-Bee]

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Imagine they’d actually won something under Southgate…would he have been installed as 3rd in line to the throne?

They would have gave him the throne by popular vote, down with the Germans the English would have said.