Midfield

[CapitalGreen]

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They were the three i wanted in midfield, as they are the best three on paper. What we saw though was no creativity and the usual retreat backwards the longer the game went on until the sending off, then they woke up again.

So frustrating to watch, and more so if you play up front i'd imagine?

The players up front are as much to blame than anyone for dropping points yesterday. We put 47 crosses into the box, it would be nice to see our big centre forward attempt to get in front of his man and attack a cross ball once in a while instead of waiting on the perfect ball.

[blackpoolhibs]

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The players up front are as much to blame than anyone for dropping points yesterday. We put 47 crosses into the box, it would be nice to see our big centre forward attempt to get in front of his man and attack a cross ball once in a while instead of waiting on the perfect ball.

I dont absolve our forwards from blame, but we have one forward challenging for most of those crosses, and he's not the best either.

Creativity is poor, we just dont create much.

[The Modfather]

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The players up front are as much to blame than anyone for dropping points yesterday. We put 47 crosses into the box, it would be nice to see our big centre forward attempt to get in front of his man and attack a cross ball once in a while instead of waiting on the perfect ball.

It’s a fair point about the attackers doing more. However we shell crosses into the box as our only tactic despite the fact we only ever have one or two players in the box at any one time. At least one of the 3 midfielders has to be given the instruction to keep running ahead of the ball and running into the box, otherwise only 2 of the 3 should be played at any one time and Levit given the chance as a 10 until January IMO.

[CapitalGreen]

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It’s a fair point about the attackers doing more. However we shell crosses into the box as our only tactic despite the fact we only ever have one or two players in the box at any one time. At least one of the 3 midfielders has to be given the instruction to keep running ahead of the ball and running into the box, otherwise only 2 of the 3 should be played at any one time and Levit given the chance as a 10 until January IMO.

Don’t disagree with any of that. Big bug bear from me is when our midfielders pass it forward and then don’t continue on running beyond to offer an option to receive it back.

[Dmas]

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I dont absolve our forwards from blame, but we have one forward challenging for most of those crosses, and he's not the best either.

Creativity is poor, we just dont create much.

Definitely we need more from Myko but Jesus he must be a frustrated man everything is wide and crossed into him surrounded by defenders our midfield standing watching from 30 yds, ball breaks out to edge of the box either nobody there or if they are they work it back out wide again

[sauzeelegod]

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It’s a fair point about the attackers doing more. However we shell crosses into the box as our only tactic despite the fact we only ever have one or two players in the box at any one time. At least one of the 3 midfielders has to be given the instruction to keep running ahead of the ball and running into the box, otherwise only 2 of the 3 should be played at any one time and Levit given the chance as a 10 until January IMO.

Agreed

[hibees 7062]

What about trying Miller up front

[blackpoolhibs]

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Definitely we need more from Myko but Jesus he must be a frustrated man everything is wide and crossed into him surrounded by defenders our midfield standing watching from 30 yds, ball breaks out to edge of the box either nobody there or if they are they work it back out wide again

Hoilett did a great run in the first half where he beat his man all ends up and got into the box, was a little unlucky with the pass being a shade behind Kuk???, but that apart, we just dont create much at all.

[MWHIBBIES]

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They were the three i wanted in midfield, as they are the best three on paper. What we saw though was no creativity and the usual retreat backwards the longer the game went on until the sending off, then they woke up again.

So frustrating to watch, and more so if you play up front i'd imagine?

We didn't retreat backwards yesterday. United came onto us, but we still pressed and defended high.

Newell played the best pass of the match into Hoilett. All if our midfield got it to the forwards consistently. Our left back created a goal with a cross, why couldn't Boyle or Hoilett?

[B.H.F.C]

Balance in midfield still isn’t right. We all know what is missing, the club just decided that there was only one player in world football that they could go after to help with it though.

It’s a real issue in terms of the lack of goals. All we do is look to get it wide and cross it. It’ll come off sometimes, good goal yesterday. But it can’t be your only attacking threat. We’re so predictable.

[Ozyhibby]

Midfield should be Kwon and Triantis with a proper attacking midfielder.


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[DaveF]

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Midfield should be Kwon and Triantis with a proper attacking midfielder.


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I've been disappointed with Kwon. He has all the attributes to be a dominant figure in midfield but does not do enough IMO.

Boyle is also very poor - despite being our top scorer - he's no longer beating his man or influencing the game the the game at the sharp end.

[B.H.F.C]

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I've been disappointed with Kwon. He has all the attributes to be a dominant figure in midfield but does not do enough IMO.

Boyle is also very poor - despite being our top scorer - he's no longer beating his man or influencing the game the the game at the sharp end.

Numerous times in the second half yesterday, Boyle had the left back 1v1 and you could just see the old legs weren’t what they used to be. He does provide the odd moment, he still put in a couple of decent balls and I don’t think he’s finished, but we can’t rely on him to go and win games for us the way we used to.

[malcky]

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Midfield should be Kwon and Triantis with a proper attacking midfielder.


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I thought Triantis was sloppy in midfield so many unforced errors

[Scooter]

What about trying Levitt in that forward position

[Smartie]

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Midfield should be Kwon and Triantis with a proper attacking midfielder.


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I think it should be Kwon or Triantis plus Newell and a new attacking midfielder.

The 3 of them together actually did a lot better yesterday than I thought they'd do.

I'm with CapitalGreen on this one - all that I really thought was lacking yesterday was the central striker. The 2 wide players played well, Cadden did well when he came on.

I think we could do with a striker who is told not to gallivant and only even stay right up on the last man, the width of the posts. The number of times we got the ball into decent wide areas, sometimes even got the ball in and the options in the middle were either poor or non existent was infuriating.

Myko's suspension actually gives us a great chance to shake it up, even if we are short of obvious like for like replacements.

I have a hunch that putting Youan in there might change the way we play, very much for the better. He'd need to be pretty disciplined though.

There's a lot on the shoulders of the striker as with that midfield you're never going to be getting any of them up to support / get beyond the striker.

[The Modfather]

What do Triantis, Kwon & Newell do? What are they expected to do? What can we hope they can do?

All decent individually, but at least Kwon & Triantis won’t be here next season. We’re stuck with Newell for another two years. How many midfields is it he’s been part of that aren’t balanced?

Yet if there’s ever talk of moving on players like Newell, Boyle, Miller, Cadden etc then you hear the battle cry of “least of our problems”.

If I was Levitt (or NMW or Amos for that matter), and I was asked by Gray to come into the team and try and save his job I’d be tempted to say thanks, but no thanks and let him crack on hoping Triantis, Kwon & Newell can suddenly work.

[MWHIBBIES]

All of them miles off it today, after doing decent last week

[Smartie]

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What do Triantis, Kwon & Newell do? What are they expected to do? What can we hope they can do?

All decent individually, but at least Kwon & Triantis won’t be here next season. We’re stuck with Newell for another two years. How many midfields is it he’s been part of that aren’t balanced?

Yet if there’s ever talk of moving on players like Newell, Boyle, Miller, Cadden etc then you hear the battle cry of “least of our problems”.

If I was Levitt (or NMW or Amos for that matter), and I was asked by Gray to come into the team and try and save his job I’d be tempted to say thanks, but no thanks and let him crack on hoping Triantis, Kwon & Newell can suddenly work.

This 3 actually did better than I expected last week but even on paper they just shouldn’t work. In practice that’s exactly what it seems to be.

Kwon or Triantis plus Newell might be close to being an acceptable 2 of the 3.

The 3 together? I don’t even get how you would ever expect that to work.

[Ozyhibby]

Newell kept on, the other two subbed.


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[MWHIBBIES]

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Newell kept on, the other two subbed.


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Probably about right. He was the least bad, he can't sub all 3.

[Boyle89]

Levitt showing the rest of the midfield how to actually play football today.

[ShadesLongThrow]

Levitt played well. Don’t think he missed a pass and generally tried to go forward. I think he’s our best option for taking a ball deep and breaking through a press that all teams now seem to do to us.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Levitt played well. Don’t think he missed a pass and generally tried to go forward. I think he’s our best option for taking a ball deep and breaking through a press that all teams now seem to do to us.

He looked okay but it was an ideal situation for him. St Mirren sitting back not interested in scoring. He got time on the ball.

[blackpoolhibs]

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We didn't retreat backwards yesterday. United came onto us, but we still pressed and defended high.

Newell played the best pass of the match into Hoilett. All if our midfield got it to the forwards consistently. Our left back created a goal with a cross, why couldn't Boyle or Hoilett?

I've come to the conclusion you are blind.

[hibee-boys]

JDH, Campbell, Newell midfield 3 next week anyone😳😂

[Real Emerald]

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Levitt played well. Don’t think he missed a pass and generally tried to go forward. I think he’s our best option for taking a ball deep and breaking through a press that all teams now seem to do to us.

I’ll bet a good manager would find his best position to affect games. He is not a tackling defensive midfielder, he’s a ball playing pass maker.

[NC1875]

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He looked okay but it was an ideal situation for him. St Mirren sitting back not interested in scoring. He got time on the ball.

Newell man of the match again ? As much of a joker as the so called manager

[MWHIBBIES]

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Newell man of the match again ? As much of a joker as the so called manager

Don't think anyone would be man of the match. Joe tried but was poor. Won a penalty I guess.

[Boyle89]

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He looked okay but it was an ideal situation for him. St Mirren sitting back not interested in scoring. He got time on the ball.

I do get what you are trying to say, but why didn't the rest of the midfield not look as good after they went 2-0 up in the 1st half? Why did none of them play tidy passes through the lines? Why did none of them play a ball through two lines of opposition to set youan free? He was, in terms of technique, miles above everyone on the pitch today. Painfully obvious his creativity and vision makes us better.