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    A bit different one being invaded unprovoked by their former countrymen( Soviet Union) and one defending themselves from terrorists. Genuinely crazy to me people have these opinions. Yes, its horrible seeing kids being caught up in it but thats war. Especially when fighting against terrorists using their own people to hide behind. Should the Allies have stopped before Berlin, to stop civilian deaths?
    The poster you respond to has already made a post in the holy ground which didn’t fall short of saying the Israeli fans deserved a kicking. Wouldn’t bottle replying to the thinly veiled antisemitism.


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    When do they play a team that people have actually heard of in this competition ?

    I've heard of Heidenheim, and even been at one of their games.



    Though admittedly I'm probably in the minority on that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    A bit different one being invaded unprovoked by their former countrymen( Soviet Union) and one defending themselves from terrorists. Genuinely crazy to me people have these opinions. Yes, its horrible seeing kids being caught up in it but thats war. Especially when fighting against terrorists using their own people to hide behind. Should the Allies have stopped before Berlin, to stop civilian deaths?
    The opinions that Israel are and have been for years guilty of genocide breaking any number of war conventions and international law. The comparison with the Second World War is laughable

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Racism and religion have no place in football whatever nationalities are involved.
    You're absolutely correct of course. It does however become inevitable when laws are not applied consistently. There's going to be trouble wherever these fans go, whether the violence is incited by themselves or by others. I just feel sorry for the individuals (regardless of where they're from) who simply want to attend a game of football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    The opinions that Israel are and have been for years guilty of genocide breaking any number of war conventions and international law. The comparison with the Second World War is laughable
    They're literally fighting terrorists whose whole existence is to try and put about the end of their country. And there is not a war in history where war conventions arent sometimes broken. Does constant rocket fire coming from Gaza into Israel civilian areas not meet your threshold for war crimes? You should maybe learn your history aswell about who started the fighting and not just over the last few years where you think there is a "genocide" going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    They're literally fighting terrorists whose whole existence is to try and put about the end of their country. And there is not a war in history where war conventions arent sometimes broken. Does constant rocket fire coming from Gaza into Israel civilian areas not meet your threshold for war crimes? You should maybe learn your history aswell about who started the fighting and not just over the last few years where you think there is a "genocide" going on.
    Have you genuinely not been watching the news of carpet bombing hospitals schools killing thousands upon thousands of civilians. Incredible defence of the indefensible. Genuinely you need to read up on the reality of the situation. Bewildering

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    Have you genuinely not been watching the news of carpet bombing hospitals schools killing thousands upon thousands of civilians. Incredible defence of the indefensible. Genuinely you need to read up on the reality of the situation. Bewildering
    The 'reality' is tempered by the fact the casualty figures are released by Hamas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    The 'reality' is tempered by the fact the casualty figures are released by Hamas.
    And the UN Red Cross and other such terrorist organisations

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    And the UN Red Cross and other such terrorist organisations
    Watch out any criticism of Israel and you'll be accused of antisemitism it's ok to bomb a civilian population back to the Stone Age while the World watches on. Disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betty Boop View Post
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    Watch out any criticism of Israel and you'll be accused of antisemitism it's ok to bomb a civilian population back to the Stone Age while the World watches on. Disgusting.
    Quite bizarre to be honest

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    The opinions that Israel are and have been for years guilty of genocide breaking any number of war conventions and international law. The comparison with the Second World War is laughable
    The fact these attacks took place on the anniversary of the Nazi pogroms, which the Mayor of Amsterdam has likened them to, brings the Second World War very much into focus. It's deeply concerning to see such a revival of anti-Semitism under the guise of being 'pro Palestinian'.

    Last season I took a couple of Jewish kids (who'd been sent to stay with relatives in Newton Mearns after October 7th) to a Spurs game. They're Celtic fans and would have preferred to go there but with Abada being pretty much forced to leave the club for being Israeli they were scared to go. A relative ended up getting them tickets for Spurs instead. Depressing stuff and I'd hope we as a club would not have treated Marciano that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Have you genuinely not been watching the news of carpet bombing hospitals schools killing thousands upon thousands of civilians. Incredible defence of the indefensible. Genuinely you need to read up on the reality of the situation. Bewildering
    The hospitals that are used as AK47, RPG, and grenade storage facilities? I do feel bad for the kids there. Their government whose only policy is to try and erradicate Israel, using them to protect their terrorists. Maybe if you look at other sources aside from Al Jazeera

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyge1587e5t

    Maybe already mentioned earlier in the thread but those were disgraceful scenes in Amsterdam last night.
    Absolutely. And lots of Israeli fans didnt cover themselves in glory either., with racist chanting and flag burning. If youre going to have representatives of a genocidal regime on international soil you should have a ban on away fans. Being anti the state of Israel has nothing to do with anti semitism.

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    Quite bizarre to be honest
    Bizarre? You might want to learn you are in the minority in this country if you support Iranian proxy groups over Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Absolutely. And lots of Israeli fans didnt cover themselves in glory either., with racist chanting and flag burning. If youre going to have representatives of a genocidal regime on international soil you should have a ban on away fans. Being anti the state of Israel has nothing to do with anti semitism.
    The username checks out here

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    The hospitals that are used as AK47, RPG, and grenade storage facilities? I do feel bad for the kids there. Their government whose only policy is to try and erradicate Israel, using them to protect their terrorists. Maybe if you look at other sources aside from Al Jazeera
    Good you feel bad for the kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Bizarre? You might want to learn you are in the minority in this country if you support Iranian proxy groups over Israel.
    Before this thread gets moved to the holy ground, id like to humbly say enjoy your fishing expedition, and look forward to your next fake username

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Bizarre? You might want to learn you are in the minority in this country if you support Iranian proxy groups over Israel.
    This is some bad trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Good you feel bad for the kids.
    Good comeback. Probably more than could have been said for you after the October 7th attacks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Bizarre? You might want to learn you are in the minority in this country if you support Iranian proxy groups over Israel.
    Very bizarre. Genuinely think the vast majority of normal people in this country would be horrified by the genocide of the Palestinian people by a fascist government. The irony of this being Israel isn’t lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Good comeback. Probably more than could have been said for you after the October 7th attacks
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    And the UN Red Cross and other such terrorist organisations
    The 'official' figures are released solely by the Hamas-run health ministry, as any self-respecting news agency makes clear. Nobody's denying civilians have died but it's not hard to see why Hamas has a clear propaganda incentive to inflate those numbers, bearing in mind the massacre they carried out to spark this conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    Before this thread gets moved to the holy ground, id like to humbly say enjoy your fishing expedition, and look forward to your next fake username
    Eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Very bizarre. Genuinely think the vast majority of normal people in this country would be horrified by the genocide of the Palestinian people by a fascist government. The irony of this being Israel isn’t lost.
    Normal people in this country know what the definition of a genocide is. Seems like you dont

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    The fact these attacks took place on the anniversary of the Nazi pogroms, which the Mayor of Amsterdam has likened them to, brings the Second World War very much into focus. It's deeply concerning to see such a revival of anti-Semitism under the guise of being 'pro Palestinian'.

    Last season I took a couple of Jewish kids (who'd been sent to stay with relatives in Newton Mearns after October 7th) to a Spurs game. They're Celtic fans and would have preferred to go there but with Abada being pretty much forced to leave the club for being Israeli they were scared to go. A relative ended up getting them tickets for Spurs instead. Depressing stuff and I'd hope we as a club would not have treated Marciano that way.
    My vitriol is towards the genocidal Israel government a view i would assume shared by many normal Israeli people. I have made no comment on the football related violence which is in no way comparable

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Normal people in this country know what the definition of a genocide is. Seems like you dont
    Oh lord, make it stop.

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    Oh lord, make it stop.
    How about add something to the conversation then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    Normal people in this country know what the definition of a genocide is. Seems like you dont
    They do ironic their government has forgotten

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1875Hibees View Post
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    How about add something to the conversation then?
    You can't talk with someone defending war crimes. Dozens of war crimes. Bombing peace keepers and aid convoys. Bombing hospitals. Murdering children.


    Plus, it's hardly on topic, and I pride myself in only arguing and ruining threads about football.

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    Barnsley v Rotherham Utd .7:15 .SS+ .

    Morton v Ayr Utd . 7:45 . BBC Scotland.

    Watford v Oxford Utd . 8:00 SSME .


    Go for .. 2-2 Barnsley game , 2-1 Ayr and 3-1 Watford.

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