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    Panorama tonight is an hour long programme about why Trump should get a second chance. I’m depressed that things at present point towards a Trump victory.
    WTF? What's happened to the BBC?

    Just looked at the blurb for the programme ...

    For the past two years, Panorama has been following some of Donald Trump’s most ardent supporters. One was just feet away from the former president when a gunman tried to assassinate him during a rally in Pennsylvania.
    Is that the BBC saying the "attempted assassination" was real and not staged? Perhaps they should do a Panorama about the "shooting".
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    WTF? What's happened to the BBC?
    It's the state broadcaster so it needs to represent the views of the British government. Britain's (short-term?) interest means that it has to hedge its bets, just like many US business people have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tubs View Post
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    It's the state broadcaster so it needs to represent the views of the British government. Britain's (short-term?) interest means that it has to hedge its bets, just like many US business people have done.
    Has Panorama already done a "Why Harris should get a first chance" or is that still to come? Not a trick question, genuinely don't follow the BBC's current affairs output since it became mostly right-of-centre political propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Has Panorama already done a "Why Harris should get a first chance" or is that still to come? Not a trick question, genuinely don't follow the BBC's current affairs output since it became mostly right-of-centre political propaganda.
    Neither do I, mate. It's terrible.

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    Well, bookie’s favourite for a start, a lot of media exposure, both positive and damaging, but keeping his name in the forefront of the minds of ‘undecidedes’. Barring some insipid, publicised vocal support from eminent pop stars, Harris doesn’t seem to get his level of media attention and, from a distance admittedly, unfortunately I think ‘things’ point to a victory for him. I’m watching the programme now and can’t help feeling he’s got all these thick Yanks eating out of his hands. Just a strong feeling I’ve got to say, but I think my feeling is backed up by what we are hearing and seeing.
    As I’ve said before, Ozy, you incessantly tell us that Trump won’t\can’t win, but I don’t think you’ve ever backed it up with sound reasoning. I hope I’m wrong and you’re right and, if Harris wins, I’ll be the first to celebrate with you, but I honestly think we’re both in for a major disappointment.

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    Panorama tonight is an hour long programme about why Trump should get a second chance. I’m depressed that things at present point towards a Trump victory.
    The programme was called "Trump: A second chance?"

    Isn't the question mark very important in this context? I don't think it was all about why Trump should get a second chance and being justified by the BBC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    The programme was called "Trump: A second chance?"

    Isn't the question mark very important in this context? I don't think it was all about why Trump should get a second chance and being justified by the BBC!
    I didn’t know about the ? and take the point. However, the programme, to me, was highly pitched in Trump’s favour and, on balance or maybe imbalance, supported the Trump campaign. I found the last glimpse of Trump highly disturbing and threatening. He said “If we don’t win this election, it might be the last ever election we ever have.” Take what you want from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    I didn’t know about the ? and take the point. However, the programme, to me, was highly pitched in Trump’s favour and, on balance or maybe imbalance, supported the Trump campaign. I found the last glimpse of Trump highly disturbing and threatening. He said “If we don’t win this election, it might be the last ever election we ever have.” Take what you want from that.


    That family they followed are completely mad, as are most of his followers. It's become a cult that has these people in a spell, they are deranged if they think he gives a toss about any of them?

    If you look up gullible in the dictionary, it just says yanks.

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    Well, bookie’s favourite for a start, a lot of media exposure, both positive and damaging, but keeping his name in the forefront of the minds of ‘undecidedes’. Barring some insipid, publicised vocal support from eminent pop stars, Harris doesn’t seem to get his level of media attention and, from a distance admittedly, unfortunately I think ‘things’ point to a victory for him. I’m watching the programme now and can’t help feeling he’s got all these thick Yanks eating out of his hands. Just a strong feeling I’ve got to say, but I think my feeling is backed up by what we are hearing and seeing.
    As I’ve said before, Ozy, you incessantly tell us that Trump won’t\can’t win, but I don’t think you’ve ever backed it up with sound reasoning. I hope I’m wrong and you’re right and, if Harris wins, I’ll be the first to celebrate with you, but I honestly think we’re both in for a major disappointment.
    The polls point to a Harris win. I think on the day she will win by more than 4%. I actually think she can take Florida. So long as she gets to 270 though then I’ll be very happy.
    Early voting is showing massive turnout among women, black and Latino voters. It’s also just up massively overall, pointing to a huge turnout. All that will help Harris.
    I’m still confident she wins. Although I’ll get more nervous as next Tuesday approaches.


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    Using twitter right now to try and gauge what way voters might go seems like a waste of time. Musk pretty unashamedly using it as a propaganda machine and his MAGA bots with blue ticks being propelled right to the top of the newsfeeds. Pointing to republican voter regististration as a outright win when people are getting paid to register seems unwise as well.

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    https://x.com/morning_joe/status/185...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    Late endorsement from W maybe?


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    That family they followed are completely mad, as are most of his followers. It's become a cult that has these people in a spell, they are deranged if they think he gives a toss about any of them?

    If you look up gullible in the dictionary, it just says yanks.
    This for me is the crux of the problem. Firstly you have the Joe Bloggs Republican supporters who will vote for their party, irrespective of the candidate. I don’t think any of them, even the one’s who know Trump is a liability, and a danger society, will abstain. Then you have the ‘gullibles’ like the idiots featured in the programme, who are fanatics and mesmerised by Trump’s histrionics and lies. Lastly, and possibly the most worrying, are the crazy insurgents, who would follow any clown, like Trump, who preaches and encourages their violent philosophies. Without exaggeration or knee-jerking the USA and the wider world is on a knife edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Nobody knows more than him about articulacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    If hydrogen is what's currently worrying him maybe they could try bleach?

    The orange one knows best.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Nobody knows more than him about articulacy.
    I’m hoping after next week he loses so bad we can start properly laughing about what an idiot he is.


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    He’s tagged some random The Rangers fan in on a tweet about postal votes…

    https://x.com/realdonaldtrump/status...JgiKF_bB4aPXvw

    Make Rayngurs Great Again!


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    I wonder which candidate the people who did this support?

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    I see Biden has had a gaffe and called Trump supporters 'Garbage'. I don't think he meant it as that, he was very very muddled in the 27 second clip and couldn't get his words out. Hard to tell.

    However.. It reminds me of Hilary Clinton referring to Trump supporters as 'Deplorables' which, to me, was a big turning point. Terrible timing.

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    I see Biden has had a gaffe and called Trump supporters 'Garbage'. I don't think he meant it as that, he was very very muddled in the 27 second clip and couldn't get his words out. Hard to tell.

    However.. It reminds me of Hilary Clinton referring to Trump supporters as 'Deplorables' which, to me, was a big turning point. Terrible timing.
    Think it will be fine. Unfortunately for Joe, nobody is listening to him anymore. He’s not the candidate and has been totally sidelined by her campaign.
    Still, if Trump wants to spend the last 6 days running against Biden then that would be good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by USA_Hibee View Post
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    I wonder which candidate the people who did this support?

    Republicans have wanted Ballot boxes removed

    most ballot box votes are from Democrats

    apparently three devices had "free Gaza" and "free palestine" messages on them Devices used in Oregon, Washington ballot box fires had 'Free Gaza' messages, reports say


    so i'm really not sure




    anyhoo, nearly 60m votes have been cast

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    That's got to be a spoof.... surely!

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    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1852016...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    Musk saying they are going to crash the economy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1852016...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    Musk saying they are going to crash the economy.


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    Maybe that's why they've been giving Dim Lizzie so much air time?

    If anyone knows how to crash an economy.........

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    Does early voting in the US election mean good news for either party or no advantage to Reublican or Democrats?

    With only 5 days to go which pollster are possibly the best to keep a eye on for a idea of who the yanks are gonna vote for as next president

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