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    This has nothing to do with Trump.

    Remember when Orange Juice was classed as a starter in restaurants. 😂. Actually on second thoughts it is kind of Trump related.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibby70 View Post
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    This has nothing to do with Trump.

    Remember when Orange Juice was classed as a starter in restaurants. 😂. Actually on second thoughts it is kind of Trump related.
    It still was at a boxing event at the Marriott in Glasgow I went to a few years ago. It was a round table set up with a meal.

    Advertised as a three “coarse” meal - the starter and dessert certainly weren’t “coarse” - the starter was orange juice and the dessert was an espresso. 😂

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump had something to do with that event - they came round selling raffle tickets then never actually did the raffle - a very Trump thing to do

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    No idea if it's accurate but the mood music in the sky news reports is that all roads point to a Trump win, with Arab and Black communities swaying towards him in the decisive states.

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    No idea if it's accurate but the mood music in the sky news reports is that all roads point to a Trump win, with Arab and Black communities swaying towards him in the decisive states.
    He is the bookies favorite, the shares in Trump Media have tripled so the markets expect him to win. All signs point to a Trump victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    He is the bookies favorite, the shares in Trump Media have tripled so the markets expect him to win. All signs point to a Trump victory.
    Well that’s ****** depressing.

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    Well that’s ****** depressing.
    I really don’t know anything about US politics tbh, but why would it be depressing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    He is the bookies favorite, the shares in Trump Media have tripled so the markets expect him to win. All signs point to a Trump victory.
    I don't think betting market predictions are considered a reliable source (though Elon Musk wants us to think they're much more accurate than polls); it's thought that they are being influenced by right-wing oligarchs placing large bets to influence the narrative ahead of the election (and presumably to make a case for claiming the election is stolen if it doesn't go Trump's way). Peter Thiel - far right billionaire technobro and, along with Elon Musk, responsible for the JD Vance pick as VP - is an investor in Polymarket, one of the high profile betting prediction markets. There have been calls for investigations into possible rigging, or deliberate manipulation of the odds with big bets from a small number of foreign entities. I know nowt about betting markets, but here are a couple of links on the issue:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/lar...ys-2024-10-18/

    https://time.com/7095708/financial-s...tion-election/

    https://www.newsweek.com/who-polymar...di9999-1969646

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    Harris will win.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Harris will win.


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    I wish I had your confidence.

    The alternative doesn't bear thinking about. The next six months could be fairly pivotal for the future of the human race, with so many flashpoints around the world and so many headbangers on the cusp of getting their own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Harris will win.


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    How do you know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOJ O45 View Post
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    How do you know that?
    Read it on an email sent by Bill Gates to Hunter Biden’s laptop.
    It’s just my opinion. I think Harris will win massively among women and will carry her to the White House. I think the polls can’t weight for the amount of women voting in this election on the abortion issue because there is no track record. I think that will make the difference.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOJ O45 View Post
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    How do you know that?
    Who do you hope to win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Read it on an email sent by Bill Gates to Hunter Biden’s laptop.
    It’s just my opinion. I think Harris will win massively among women and will carry her to the White House. I think the polls can’t weight for the amount of women voting in this election on the abortion issue because there is no track record. I think that will make the difference.


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    Labour sending over 100 current and former party staff members to campaign for Harris. Alex Cole Hamilton has also taken a leave of absence to chap doors in swing states. Trumps a shoe in.

    https://x.com/TelegraphUS/status/1847013902757904650

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOJ O45 View Post
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    I really don’t know anything about US politics tbh, but why would it be depressing?
    A ticket winning that wants to ban abortion even in cases of incest and rape, has said that childless people should have less of an opinion, has said millions of people including those who have a legal status of citizenship should be rounded up and deported, who is a sexual assault perpetrator.

    If you want them to win then you have reprehensible morals in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    A ticket winning that wants to ban abortion even in cases of incest and rape, has said that childless people should have less of an opinion, has said millions of people including those who have a legal status of citizenship should be rounded up and deported, who is a sexual assault perpetrator.

    If you want them to win then you have reprehensible morals in my opinion
    Along with about 50% of US adults eligible to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Along with about 50% of US adults eligible to vote.
    It's horrendous they have been duped like a large proportion of the world to just focus on immigration and forget the rest. Dems are also suffering from what almost every incumbent government in the world that's been up for reelection has faced, no one wants to vote in a party that's been in power through the worst recession and interest rates in our lives. Times have been brutal and governments have had not much good news to give out. The only thing that might save the dems is how loony Reps are on women's issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOJ O45 View Post
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    I really don’t know anything about US politics tbh, but why would it be depressing?
    I suggest that it might be worth doing some research.

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    Trump officially reports Labour and the Democrats to the Federal Electoral Commission for interference. Everything I've read says its legal for foreign nationals to campaign in the US

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOJ O45 View Post
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    I really don’t know anything about US politics tbh, but why would it be depressing?
    Have you been living in a cave since 2016?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOJ O45 View Post
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    I really don’t know anything about US politics tbh, but why would it be depressing?
    https://youtu.be/PX9reO3QnUA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Trump officially reports Labour and the Democrats to the Federal Electoral Commission for interference. Everything I've read says its legal for foreign nationals to campaign in the US
    He's got a bit of a cheek considering he's got Farage held up in a bought and paid for room in Trump Towers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bee View Post
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    He's got a bit of a cheek considering he's got Farage held up in a bought and paid for room in Trump Towers.
    True, Truss too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Trump officially reports Labour and the Democrats to the Federal Electoral Commission for interference. Everything I've read says its legal for foreign nationals to campaign in the US
    Rich seeing as Musk is entering new registered voters for the Republicans in Pennsylvania access to a daily lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    True, Truss too
    It’s just a campaign tactic so they can claim the election was rigged afterwards. If he is to steal power this time he’s going to need lots of lawsuits.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Harris will win.


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    I’ve now realised that your constant ‘Trump won’t win’ and ‘Harris will win’ is probably just a tongue in cheek opinion and comment and wishful thinking as I don’t remember you backing up your statements with any real evidence why you think this.

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    I’ve now realised that your constant ‘Trump won’t win’ and ‘Harris will win’ is probably just a tongue in cheek opinion and comment and wishful thinking as I don’t remember you backing up your statements with any real evidence why you think this.
    I’ve said earlier I believe the level of female participation in this vote is being under represented in the polls. Not the polling companies fault as they can only weight things based on previous polls. And the increased numbers will break for Harris.
    I 100% could be wrong and Trump wins.

    I also think that the polls are being flooded with republican leaning polls which is distorting the averages. I read the other day that in the last week there were 34 neutral polls released, 33 republicans leaning polls and 1 democrat leaning polls. If this turns out to be the case then it’s possible that Trump support is being overstated.

    I will still be very nervous a week on Tuesday watching the results come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    It's horrendous they have been duped like a large proportion of the world to just focus on immigration and forget the rest. Dems are also suffering from what almost every incumbent government in the world that's been up for reelection has faced, no one wants to vote in a party that's been in power through the worst recession and interest rates in our lives. Times have been brutal and governments have had not much good news to give out. The only thing that might save the dems is how loony Reps are on women's issues
    The US economy is booming, by most measures: growth, employment, wages - which have outstripped inflation, and have disproportionally benefitted low wage workers. Unfortunately, prices remain high - not a small thing - which is understandably affecting the vibes. The post-recovery recession which a number of the financial publications said was 100% going to happen, hasn't.

    - The supermarkets have maintained covid supply-related rises, and are considered to be price-gouging (in the past few weeks, a supermarket group executive has admitted this to an inquiry). Harris has talked about legislating against price-gouging, but I would guess that that would be politically difficult here in the US? Otherwise, the government doesn't control prices beyond the inflation rate, which price-rises have exceeded. Every time I do food shopping, I have a "HOW much??" moment, and I've been here two years.

    - Healthcare. Mental, basically. Services and medication cost many multiples of what they cost elsewhere in the world, and even excellent insurance doesn't cover all your outgoings. Even insured people can be bankrupted or impoverished by significant 'out of pocket' expenses. Again, the prices are not government controlled, and there is fierce political and industry opposition to government intervention. Doing away with lobbying would likely help, but it's not going to happen. Trump says he will have a brilliant plan to replace the 'terrible Obamacare', but he was saying that in 2016, and so far hasn't come up with the plan. Here's a comparison of the 2 parties' positions on healthcare, if anyone's interested:
    https://www.kff.org/compare-2024-can...h-care-policy/

    Housing. There's a shortage, particularly in affordable housing, and fixing that is fraught with problems. Harris says she's going to build 3 million homes, and will achieve that through getting zoning restrictions reduced. At the moment, this is mainly controlled by local councils, and there are whole towns and cities where there are severe restrictions on building anything other than single family homes, with a minimum plot size and a minimum number of on-site car parking spaces. And homes aren't being built in the places where they are needed - which are often the places with most restrictive zoning, meaning low-paid workers often have to live far away from where the work is. If ever anyone is bored and looking for an internet rabbit hole to scurry down, look up the history of housing zoning in the US, and its socioeconomic consequences. It's a longterm problem which may be really difficult to solve.

    A couple of recent articles on the economy (free, if you haven't used up their freebies)

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...harts-compare/

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...ellent/678630/

    There seems to be pretty consistent agreement from even right-leaning sources that Trump's economic plans are at best unhelpful, and more likely, would be harmful to the economy. Mass deportation of one of their main sources of cheap labour, plus tariffs and the trade wars that go with that, are going to push prices up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I’ve said earlier I believe the level of female participation in this vote is being under represented in the polls. Not the polling companies fault as they can only weight things based on previous polls. And the increased numbers will break for Harris.
    I 100% could be wrong and Trump wins.

    I also think that the polls are being flooded with republican leaning polls which is distorting the averages. I read the other day that in the last week there were 34 neutral polls released, 33 republicans leaning polls and 1 democrat leaning polls. If this turns out to be the case then it’s possible that Trump support is being overstated.

    I will still be very nervous a week on Tuesday watching the results come in.

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    Agree with this. There are a lot of Trump supporting husbands who have wifes who will secretly vote for Harris. Also lots of chat about rigged polling in Trumps favour.

    Even if Harris wins fair and square there will be trouble.

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