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    I see Duk made a vital contribution to Aberdeen winner yesterday too

    A guy that went AWOL has been managed back into the team and contributing

    I wonder if our management team can do anything close to that with want away Elie Youan

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    You’d hope so but really it lies with the player and whether they want it or not


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    I think the “Hibs way” of playing is something that only exists in the minds of some fans. I’d highly doubt any new manager is briefed on this myth - or instructed to play in any specific way.
    The 'Hibs way' just happens to coincide with those all-too rare periods when we have a team full of highly talented, attack-minded players eg the Famous Five, the Tornadoes, the spell under Miller when we had McAllister and O'Neill, the Sauzee/Latapy era, Mowbray's young guns etc.

    Otherwise we're mostly just the same as any other club, trying to get a winning team on the park. It's not the manager's job to play 'the Hibs way' or even to entertain. As Bobby Williamson said 'if you want entertainment go to the cinema', which echoed Alan Durban's 'if you want entertainment go and watch clowns' from about 20 years previously.

    Gray's job is to get results and not particularly care how they're achieved. If he can do that consistently then he can start to think about extras like entertainment. It beggars belief that there are still some who would rather NOT have the success rate a manager like Derek McInnes brought to Aberdeen because they claim not to have liked the style of football. Especially as evidence of freeflowing 'Hibs way' type football at ER has been all but non-existent for years now.

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    Non Hibs games thread even infected these days.

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    The 'Hibs way' just happens to coincide with those all-too rare periods when we have a team full of highly talented, attack-minded players eg the Famous Five, the Tornadoes, the spell under Miller when we had McAllister and O'Neill, the Sauzee/Latapy era, Mowbray's young guns etc.

    Otherwise we're mostly just the same as any other club, trying to get a winning team on the park. It's not the manager's job to play 'the Hibs way' or even to entertain. As Bobby Williamson said 'if you want entertainment go to the cinema', which echoed Alan Durban's 'if you want entertainment go and watch clowns' from about 20 years previously.

    Gray's job is to get results and not particularly care how they're achieved. If he can do that consistently then he can start to think about extras like entertainment. It beggars belief that there are still some who would rather NOT have the success rate a manager like Derek McInnes brought to Aberdeen because they claim not to have liked the style of football. Especially as evidence of freeflowing 'Hibs way' type football at ER has been all but non-existent for years now.
    The thing about it though as much as football is about results it’s also about fans going or watching games to enjoy a good game of football which is entertainment, no? .

    If you asked me what two Hibs players I most enjoy watching when on their game it would have to be Boyle and Youan … there’s a reason why it’s them and that’s because they are entertaining!.

    McInnes record while good repeatedly comes up by a minority on here like yourself though there was circumstances that helped him achieve it at time that we won’t see probably happening again…

    It’s not just Hibs fans like myself that have said they don’t like his style of football but Aberdeen and Killie ones too and probably a reason he hasn’t got any offers from a championship club in England and why both Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen didn’t move or him too …

    Under a manager that’s teams play like McInnes it would be fine when things are going well though once they start not too that’s when he’d come under more criticism than most at our club . Hell , we seen it with Jack Ross and even today I answered another poster who referred to our football as ‘ rank rotten’ and ‘ turgid stuff’ under Gray which is why McInnes would be a recipe for disaster at Hibs though I do think some of you idolise the guy and his name will get mentioned tomorrow and the next , the day after that etc etc ..

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    The thing about it though as much as football is about results it’s also about fans going or watching games to enjoy a good game of football which is entertainment, no? .

    If you asked me what two Hibs players I most enjoy watching when on their game it would have to be Boyle and Youan … there’s a reason why it’s them and that’s because they are entertaining!.

    McInnes record while good repeatedly comes up by a minority on here like yourself though there was circumstances that helped him achieve it at time that we won’t see probably happening again…

    It’s not just Hibs fans like myself that have said they don’t like his style of football but Aberdeen and Killie ones too and probably a reason he hasn’t got any offers from a championship club in England and why both Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen didn’t move or him too …

    Under a manager that’s teams play like McInnes it would be fine when things are going well though once they start not too that’s when he’d come under more criticism than most at our club . Hell , we seen it with Jack Ross and even today I answered another poster who referred to our football as ‘ rank rotten’ and ‘ turgid stuff’ under Gray which is why McInnes would be a recipe for disaster at Hibs though I do think some of you idolise the guy and his name will get mentioned tomorrow and the next , the day after that etc etc ..
    It'd much better to play sheite and lose than to play sheite and win. You are starting to believe your own lies about how bad Aberdeen were, when the stats say different.

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    The thing about it though as much as football is about results it’s also about fans going or watching games to enjoy a good game of football which is entertainment, no? .

    If you asked me what two Hibs players I most enjoy watching when on their game it would have to be Boyle and Youan … there’s a reason why it’s them and that’s because they are entertaining!.

    McInnes record while good repeatedly comes up by a minority on here like yourself though there was circumstances that helped him achieve it at time that we won’t see probably happening again…

    It’s not just Hibs fans like myself that have said they don’t like his style of football but Aberdeen and Killie ones too and probably a reason he hasn’t got any offers from a championship club in England and why both Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen didn’t move or him too …

    Under a manager that’s teams play like McInnes it would be fine when things are going well though once they start not too that’s when he’d come under more criticism than most at our club . Hell , we seen it with Jack Ross and even today I answered another poster who referred to our football as ‘ rank rotten’ and ‘ turgid stuff’ under Gray which is why McInnes would be a recipe for disaster at Hibs though I do think some of you idolise the guy and his name will get mentioned tomorrow and the next , the day after that etc etc ..
    So should we ignore that Killie have scored 50% more goals than we have?

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    It'd much better to play sheite and lose than to play sheite and win. You are starting to believe your own lies about how bad Aberdeen were, when the stats say different.
    He doesn’t always win playing Sheite though as it wasn’t that long ago the Killie fans were calling for him to go !!!…. You say I’m lying BH though that’s simply not correct is it and I think you know that as Aberdeen were on bad run before they sacked him , he had one at Bristol City and two at Killie now .

    All managers have bad runs and McInnes would be no different in that respect if he was at Hibs as manager which is why it would end up like a Jack Ross situation again… been through is Aberdeen stats over and over again without Hibs , hertz and rangers in the league too .

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    So should we ignore that Killie have scored 50% more goals than we have?
    50% more goals ? . You have me on that one tbf .

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    50% more goals ? . You have me on that one tbf .
    We’ve scored 6. Killie have scored 9.


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    Cruyff, Neeskens, Johnny Rep, Arie Haan, Robbie Rensenbrink etc. The team that should have won the 1974 World Cup and my first real football crush in those spectacular strips.

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    He doesn’t always win playing Sheite though as it wasn’t that long ago the Killie fans were calling for him to go !!!…. You say I’m lying BH though that’s simply not correct is it and I think you know that as Aberdeen were on bad run before they sacked him , he had one at Bristol City and two at Killie now .

    All managers have bad runs and McInnes would be no different in that respect if he was at Hibs as manager which is why it would end up like a Jack Ross situation again… been through is Aberdeen stats over and over again without Hibs , hertz and rangers in the league too .
    I think we could live with a manager who goes on his bad run after eight successive top four finishes...

    Not appointing a manager because he'll go on a bad run at some point effectively rules all managers out of contention for any job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    I think we could live with a manager who goes on his bad run after eight successive top four finishes...

    Not appointing a manager because he'll go on a bad run at some point effectively rules all managers out of contention for any job.
    In my lifetime (44 years) Hibs have managed consecutive top 4 finishes only once (2004/5 and 2005/6).

    A thoroughly embarrassing stat.

    Yet we don't think someone who managed it 8 years on the trot is the right candidate?

    I just can't comprehend the mindset behind such a stance.

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    In my lifetime (44 years) Hibs have managed consecutive top 4 finishes only once (2004/5 and 2005/6).

    A thoroughly embarrassing stat.

    Yet we don't think someone who managed it 8 years on the trot is the right candidate?

    I just can't comprehend the mindset behind such a stance.
    I don't think that really is the mindset. I get the impression that it's more about the fact Rangers were one of the numerous clubs McInnes played for. Based on that Alex Ferguson would not have been the right man for the job either.

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    We’ve scored 6. Killie have scored 9.
    3 of which came in the last game against Dundee who were reduced to 10 men . Over the last two seasons we have scored more .. Killie 37 , Hibs 57 . Even when they were going well and we weren’t we outscored them in Killie 46 , Hibs 52 .

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    I think we could live with a manager who goes on his bad run after eight successive top four finishes...

    Not appointing a manager because he'll go on a bad run at some point effectively rules all managers out of contention for any job.
    Yeah suppose it could work again like that if we could get rid of sevco, Aberdeen and hertz for a few years to make things easier….

    We haven’t been living with mangers on a bad run is the facts of it though… Ross , Maloney , LJ , Monty .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Yeah suppose it could work again like that if we could get rid of sevco, Aberdeen and hertz for a few years to make things easier….

    We haven’t been living with mangers on a bad run is the facts of it though… Ross , Maloney , LJ , Monty .
    Are you the sort of person who'd downplay Leicester winning the league as "it's only cos the rest of the teams were rubbish that year"?

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    Any chance we can take this elsewhere. It's not as if there aren't multiple threads about Hibs out there.

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    Any chance we can take this elsewhere. It's not as if there aren't multiple threads about Hibs out there.
    Yes, you'd think the "non-Hibs games" text would be a clue that this thread isn't about Hibs.

    Hibs.net has become extremely depressing reading with the same posters having the same arguments across multiple threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    3 of which came in the last game against Dundee who were reduced to 10 men . Over the last two seasons we have scored more .. Killie 37 , Hibs 57 . Even when they were going well and we weren’t we outscored them in Killie 46 , Hibs 52 .
    ****ing hell. Now McInnes’ teams don’t score goals in the right fixtures. It was against Dundee, so there should be a caveat to the fact they’ve scored 9

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    Are you the sort of person who'd downplay Leicester winning the league as "it's only cos the rest of the teams were rubbish that year"?
    No but realistic enough to know that if Leicester City reappointed Claudio Ranieri that they wouldn’t win the league again.. which is what a few hardened admirers of McInnes is suggesting he’d do with us which wouldn’t happen either as they were extraordinary times in 3 of the top 6 teams weren’t in it and one of the old firm wasn’t the team they were in the past … it’s all fantasy prediction stuff IMO .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    No but realistic enough to know that if Leicester City reappointed Claudio Ranieri that they wouldn’t win the league again.. which is what a few hardened admirers of McInnes is suggesting he’d do with us which wouldn’t happen either as they were extraordinary times in 3 of the top 6 teams weren’t in it and one of the old firm wasn’t the team they were in the past … it’s all fantasy prediction stuff IMO .
    You are fantastic at telling everyone what wont happen, while disreguarding everything that has happened.

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    You are fantastic at telling everyone what wont happen, while disreguarding everything that has happened.
    If you think McInnes would finish 2nd ahead of rangers now fair enough

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    If you think McInnes would finish 2nd ahead of rangers now fair enough
    He might well fancy his chances against the current Rangers team.

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    He might well fancy his chances against the current Rangers team.
    I still think they will finish in 2nd place comfortably despite Aberdeen's excellent start … Aberdeen fans must be delighted with the Aberdeens board initiative in looking further a field for a manager in Thelin .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    If you think McInnes would finish 2nd ahead of rangers now fair enough
    I dont think any manager would have us 2nd ahead of the huns, no idea where you get that idea from?

    There is a manager out there who has though, and let me tell you it's not Sean Maloney, Lee Johnson, Monty, Jack Ross or David Gray, in fact only one person who's managing in Scotland, but you wouldnt have him because he's a hun.

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    I dont think any manager would have us 2nd ahead of the huns, no idea where you get that idea from?

    There is a manager out there who has though, and let me tell you it's not Sean Maloney, Lee Johnson, Monty, Jack Ross or David Gray, in fact only one person who's managing in Scotland, but you wouldnt have him because he's a hun.
    Probably the same place you got my main reason for not wanting him because he’s a hun

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    Things seem to be getting messy in English football….

    https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/spo...-legal-battle/

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    I still think they will finish in 2nd place comfortably despite Aberdeen's excellent start … Aberdeen fans must be delighted with the Aberdeens board initiative in looking further a field for a manager in Thelin .
    Even if he fails to emulate McInnes's achievement in finishing 2nd above Rangers, not just once but twice in succession?

    Oh, wait. Hibs weren't in the league for those seasons. It doesn't count

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    Even if he fails to emulate McInnes's achievement in finishing 2nd above Rangers, not just once but twice in succession?

    Oh, wait. Hibs weren't in the league for those seasons. It doesn't count
    I don’t think he will because as poor as we think the huns are now they are still a lot better than the one that came back into the premier league back then…

    Anyhow we have a manager who we should be backing rather than discussing someone else’s

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