2024-25 season non-Hibs games thread

[Aldo]

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Does the fact Arsenal unashamedly sports washes for that country make it easy for you not to admire them or do you separate the players and managers from the corporate decisions of the Club owners/leaders?

The £50 million a year sponsor from Emirates Group who are owned by the ruling family of Dubai!

[Lago]

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1 each Inter.

Another lovely goal 👌

[Mcbizz1998]

https://x.com/raithrovers/status/183...KAwzkUnLDA5G_g

Sign him up!

[The Modfather]

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Leicester were an underdog. Arteta has spent £600m.

Underdog possibly isn’t the correct term, but when Arteta took over Arsenal were a club going nowhere, a cup team at best. He’s taken them to now going toe to toe with Man City. He’s spent a fortune, but spending money and spending it well are two different things. Only have to look at Man U.

[SteveHFC]

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https://x.com/raithrovers/status/183...KAwzkUnLDA5G_g

Sign him up!

Get him re-signed immediately.

[jakedance]

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https://x.com/raithrovers/status/183...KAwzkUnLDA5G_g

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Is he playing midfield for them? Probably the championship goal of the season already.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

2-1 AC Milan.

[hibsbollah]

Lyon 1 Marseille 2, OM score two late on after playing 85 minutes with ten men. Will Go top with PSG and Monaco if hold on . Edit- Two further goals in added time, ridiculous 2-3.

[Hiber-nation]

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Is he playing midfield for them? Probably the championship goal of the season already.

Nah he played left back, I was at the game. Lewis was really good, Paul not so.

[CapitalGreen]

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No. I don't support Arsenal. Id just prefer them to win over a state funded club with 130 financial doping charges.

I have pointed out when Arsenal have been wrong to do things in the past too. It's never been anything like the crimes commited by City or their owners.

Presumably that extends to games not involving Man City too? Take the North London Derby as an example, would I be correct in thinking you’d prefer a Spurs win over Rwandan funded Arsenal?

[MWHIBBIES]

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Presumably that extends to games not involving Man City too? Take the North London Derby as an example, would I be correct in thinking you’d prefer a Spurs win over Rwandan funded Arsenal?

No, not especially. I do prefer Arsenal as English clubs go, long before I knew what sports washing was. It's nothing compared to my feelings for Hibs of course. I only support Hibs.

Do you genuinely think a sponsor is anything even remotely like being owned by a country with thousands of years of human rights violations, and having 130 chargers of financial doping? Id much prefer Arsenal, and Hibs, didn't have dodgy sponsors. It's very different from ownership imo. I would stop attending Hibs matches immediately if we were taken over by owners like City or Newcastle.

Do you think 10 Hibs fans singing a sectarian song is the same as 50k Rangers fans signing a sectarian song?

[CapitalGreen]

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No, not especially. I do prefer Arsenal as English clubs go, long before I knew what sports washing was. It's nothing compared to my feelings for Hibs of course. I only support Hibs.

Do you genuinely think a sponsor is anything even remotely like being owned by a country with thousands of years of human rights violations, and having 130 chargers of financial doping? Id much prefer Arsenal, and Hibs, didn't have dodgy sponsors. It's very different from ownership imo. I would stop attending Hibs matches immediately if we were taken over by owners like City or Newcastle.

Do you think 10 Hibs fans singing a sectarian song is the same as 50k Rangers fans signing a sectarian song?

I don’t think I said they were the same thing but I certainly believe the intention of state ownership and state funding through sponsorships are ultimately the same - it’s all part of the same over-arching strategy of reputation washing through sports and furthering state interests abroad through soft power. Arsenal have been a willing participant in such a strategy for over 18 years, during which time they’ll have likely received in excess of half a billion pounds (£500,000,000+) from a nation with “thousands of years of human rights violations“ to promote Emirates.

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Do you think 10 Hibs fans singing a sectarian song is the same as 50k Rangers fans signing a sectarian song?

If the intent is the same it is surely irrelevant how many people are involved. One person is too many, I don’t have a threshold below which bigotry is more acceptable.

[MWHIBBIES]

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I don’t think I said they were the same thing but I certainly believe the intention of state ownership and state funding through sponsorships are ultimately the same - it’s all part of the same over-arching strategy of reputation washing through sports and furthering state interests abroad through soft power. Arsenal have been a willing participant in such a strategy for over 18 years, during which time they’ll have likely received in excess of half a billion pounds (£500,000,000+) from a nation with “thousands of years of human rights violations“ to promote Emirates.



If the intent is the same it is surely irrelevant how many people are involved. One person is too many, I don’t have a threshold below which bigotry is more acceptable.

So there are not levels to evil then? Watching an illegal stream is the same as genocide? Hibs fans as bigoted as Rangers fans?

I personally have my line. I dislike these sponsors, but I see it as massively different to ownership.

[Since90+2]

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I don’t think I said they were the same thing but I certainly believe the intention of state ownership and state funding through sponsorships are ultimately the same - it’s all part of the same over-arching strategy of reputation washing through sports and furthering state interests abroad through soft power. Arsenal have been a willing participant in such a strategy for over 18 years, during which time they’ll have likely received in excess of half a billion pounds (£500,000,000+) from a nation with “thousands of years of human rights violations“ to promote Emirates.



If the intent is the same it is surely irrelevant how many people are involved. One person is too many, I don’t have a threshold below which bigotry is more acceptable.

Your point regarding Arsenals sponsorship over the years is absolutely spot on. Those in glass houses and all that.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Your point regarding Arsenals sponsorship over the years is absolutely spot on. Those in glass houses and all that.

Do you genuinely believe all crimes are equal?

[Since90+2]

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Do you genuinely believe all crimes are equal?

Arsenal literally have their stadium name and their main shirt sponsor from a state owned government with a terrible human rights record. They've previously had sponsorship from the Rwandan government, sponsorships worth hundreds of millions.

Capital Green has taken apart your argument and shown it up for the nonsense it really is.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

CapitalGreen doing some proper schooling here. Love it.

[MWHIBBIES]

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CapitalGreen doing some proper schooling here. Love it.

Oh aye, properly schooled

[MWHIBBIES]

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Arsenal literally have their stadium name and their main shirt sponsor from a state owned government with a terrible human rights record. They've previously had sponsorship from the Rwandan government, sponsorships worth hundreds of millions.

Capital Green has taken apart your argument and shown it up for the nonsense it really is.

Just absolutely genius.

Again, I've strongly condemned Arsenal's affiliation with those things. And anyone else's. It's still not at all the same as those regimes literally owning the club, and breaking rules 130 times to fund it.

I do respect you having such strong sense of black and white. I've never come across someone who believes all crimes are exactly the same. Thank god this opinion isn't shared in the wider world of football, where man city, Newcastle and psg etc are seen as a whole different level of evil.

[Since90+2]

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CapitalGreen doing some proper schooling here. Love it.

Let's also remember that it was Arsenal who had their stadium partially funded and named after a company who are state owned by a country with a horrendous human rights record.

They did that years before new ownership took control at City and Newcastle.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Let's also remember that it was Arsenal who had their stadium partially funded and named after a company who are state owned by a country with a horrendous human rights record.

They did that years before new ownership took control at City and Newcastle.

Yes, and that was also wrong. As I've said. Multiple times now.

[Hiber-nation]

As boring as the Vente thread. Apart from my update on the Raith v Hamilton game of course

[Jones28]

I missed it yesterday, but am I alone in thinking Trossards yellow for kicking the ball away is extremely harsh?

It was so close to the whistle going, surely theres got to be some mitigation?

[MWHIBBIES]

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I missed it yesterday, but am I alone in thinking Trossards yellow for kicking the ball away is extremely harsh?

It was so close to the whistle going, surely theres got to be some mitigation?

Seems to be plenty mitigation if not playing for Arsenal.

Same ref 2 weeks ago.

https://x.com/NorthBankerAFC/status/1837892024898314737

No excuse for such inconsistency.

[He's here!]

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Underdog possibly isn’t the correct term, but when Arteta took over Arsenal were a club going nowhere, a cup team at best. He’s taken them to now going toe to toe with Man City. He’s spent a fortune, but spending money and spending it well are two different things. Only have to look at Man U.

Good summation. Personally think he's done a great job - and been given the time to do it.

[Jones28]

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Seems to be plenty mitigation if not playing for Arsenal.

Same ref 2 weeks ago.

https://x.com/NorthBankerAFC/status/1837892024898314737

No excuse for such inconsistency.

Poor stuff. The guy had already started to kick the ball when the whistle blew, it's a rank decision.

[cabbageandribs1875]

could they not just play around it Massive 'sinkhole' opens up on AFC Wimbledon pitch after 'extensive flooding' (msn.com)











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[hibsbollah]

Very good article.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ter-city-rodri

[FilipinoHibs]

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The £50 million a year sponsor from Emirates Group who are owned by the ruling family of Dubai!

The Emirates cost £390m to build.They borrowed £260m from banks, secured on future revenues. They borrowed another £97m from fans. They got £130m from selling Highbury. Emirates sponsored them for 15 years for a total of £100m or £6.7m a year. Of course some of the money went to service the debt and repay the interest and capital. The Emirates contribution is tiny compared to the UAE and Saudi involvement in City and Newcastle.

[CapitalGreen]

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The Emirates cost £390m to build.They borrowed £260m from banks, secured on future revenues. They borrowed another £97m from fans. They got £130m from selling Highbury. Emirates sponsored them for 15 years for a total of £100m or £6.7m a year. Of course some of the money went to service the debt and repay the interest and capital. The Emirates contribution is tiny compared to the UAE and Saudi involvement in City and Newcastle.

Your numbers are off by quite a bit.

They have been sponsored by Emirates since 2006 - 18 years and will run for at least 22 years to 2028.

The current Emirates shirt sponsorship is worth £50m per season before accounting for performance related bonuses.