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I've probably misunderstood your original point about grandpas. One of my own grandfathers' first experience of being in a foreign country was as a 16-year old in Belgium in the early part of WWI. He never went back. Not a xenophobe, but I'm not confident he would have voted against Brexit, and I wouldn't be that quick to condemn him for it.

As you suggest, people who took part in WWI and WWII have died out now. I didn't understand why you were mentioning grandpas in the context of racism. Seemed a bit harsh on grandpas (most of whom are surely now not at all racist?) in general.
I think older folk tend to still hang on to some of the assumptions around at the time subconsciously. I think as well, older people quite often fear change, which can be understandable, and that includes fear of culture changing, because once you're 80 odd, you're talking about folk who were born before houses had TVs and stuff, and the rate of change has been pretty mental lately. I think this is largely what the right weaponise - but I agree that in these cases, it's not fair to blame the old people, unless you want to paint a very large swathe of a generation with the same brush as you're painting Tommy Robinson or whoever.