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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    It's America, do they need a motive to carry guns?

    Conspiracy theories abound. Republican 'attempts to assassinate the Republican candidate' but miraculously missed from 130m with high velocity rifle, amid high security and is pointed out by members of the crowd.
    Was he a Republican though ? Maybe joined the party to get access to events where Trump was appearing to carry out the assassination or maybe like the John Lennon shooter a loser who wanted to be remembered for something, anything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    There would be dozens of witnesses to him being shot by the secret service surely?
    They might have been hidden behind a grassy knoll

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Was he a Republican though ? Maybe joined the party to get access to events where Trump was appearing to carry out the assassination or maybe like the John Lennon shooter a loser who wanted to be remembered for something, anything.

    Not much to go on but here's what the BBC have written about his background.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3gw58wv4e9o

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    Quote Originally Posted by McD View Post
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    There would be dozens of witnesses to him being shot by the secret service surely?
    It seems odd that when everyone and their dug know all what happened, the Guardian is still today referring to the dead man as the 'suspect'. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...shooter-motive

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Too early to say. I don't necessarily believe everything that comes out of American polis depts. Has a motive been suggested yet?
    I thought you were joking? There is videos of him climbing on the roof, videos of him shooting and videos of him getting his head blown off by snipers. Multiple pictures online minutes after with his head a bloody mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I thought you were joking? There is videos of him climbing on the roof, videos of him shooting and videos of him getting his head blown off by snipers. Multiple pictures online minutes after with his head a bloody mess.
    The polis were saying earlier today that it's too early to know what his motive for shooting at Trump was. Nothing in his social media history to suggest a reason. Have they decided now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    The polis were saying earlier today that it's too early to know what his motive for shooting at Trump was. Nothing in his social media history to suggest a reason. Have they decided now?
    Usually it has little that makes sense to someone looking in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    The polis were saying earlier today that it's too early to know what his motive for shooting at Trump was. Nothing in his social media history to suggest a reason. Have they decided now?
    There won't be much logic in why a 20yo chose to murder the president knowing he'll be killed. Like most cases like this I'll assume mental health problems and easy access to guns

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Was he a Republican though ? Maybe joined the party to get access to events where Trump was appearing to carry out the assassination or maybe like the John Lennon shooter a loser who wanted to be remembered for something, anything.
    He shot from outside the venue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    There won't be much logic in why a 20yo chose to murder the president knowing he'll be killed. Like most cases like this I'll assume mental health problems and easy access to guns
    Almost certainly the case. Good chance if Biden was in town instead he’d have went for him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    There won't be much logic in why a 20yo chose to murder the president knowing he'll be killed. Like most cases like this I'll assume mental health problems and easy access to guns
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    Almost certainly the case. Good chance if Biden was in town instead he’d have went for him.
    Oh well then, lone killer, acting alone, just for the notoriety. Honestly, 'conspiracy theory' gets such a bad rap these days that some of you guys won't even consider the possibility that the Dems might have put him up to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Oh well then, lone killer, acting alone, just for the notoriety. Honestly, 'conspiracy theory' gets such a bad rap these days that some of you guys won't even consider the possibility that the Dems might have put him up to it.
    It's possible but I think if they had they would have given him a colander to wear on his head to protect him from secret service bullets and to simultaneously receive messages from the White House.

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    Some video here. Don't think it's too horrible for this site.

    https://x.com/madorison/status/1812930710422102328

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Was he a Republican though ? Maybe joined the party to get access to events where Trump was appearing to carry out the assassination or maybe like the John Lennon shooter a loser who wanted to be remembered for something, anything.
    Well. How many more Republicans are actually Democrat sleepers?

    Can’t trust anyone. Maybe a purge is required?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    America is heading to a dark place.
    Darker or lighter if the lone shooter had succeeded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    a colander to wear on his head
    Under-rated protective devices

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Under-rated protective devices
    Deluxe versions come with a TV aerial as standard

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    Soon to be US VP JD Vance:

    https://x.com/bmay/status/1812941608570278107

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    I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or another.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    He shot from outside the venue.


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    Doesn’t say much or anything about the security at the event

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    He shot from outside the venue.


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    I know that, maybe he sussed he wouldn’t get into a venue toting an automatic rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Pretty much every he has ever said is abhorrent, apart from his constant slatting of trump that he has obviously ignored now.



    JD Vance takes a shot at the UK Labour Party:

    “What is the first truly Islamist country to get a nuke? And we were like, maybe it's Iran, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts. And then we finally decided maybe it's actually the UK since Labour took over

    Said women should stay in violent marriages “for the sake of their kids”

    Is against IVF and abortion even for cases of rape or incest

    Warns against swarms of immigrants and the replacement theory that Democrats are trying to replace white people with coloured people to win power

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Oh well then, lone killer, acting alone, just for the notoriety. Honestly, 'conspiracy theory' gets such a bad rap these days that some of you guys won't even consider the possibility that the Dems might have put him up to it.
    If t helps, I read online that the real name of the shooter was Claus von Stauffenberg

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    If t helps, I read online that the real name of the shooter was Claus von Stauffenberg
    Guardian is still today referring to Crooks as the 'suspect' and 'alleged shooter'. Can't be to ensure he gets a fair trial, perhaps they're suffering from the lunatic woke mind virus. Stauffy definitely didn't do his thing for the notoriety, did he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Guardian is still today referring to Crooks as the 'suspect' and 'alleged shooter'. Can't be to ensure he gets a fair trial, perhaps they're suffering from the lunatic woke mind virus. Stauffy definitely didn't do his thing for the notoriety, did he?
    What article are you referring to?

    Edit : presumably this one.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/15/trump-shooting-suspect-home-town-motive

    But you really need to actually read the article before posting.
    Last edited by Moulin Yarns; 16-07-2024 at 09:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    What article are you referring to?

    Edit : presumably this one.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...me-town-motive

    But you really need to actually read the article before posting.
    I read the article. It refers to Crooks as the 'suspect' and as 'alleged' shooter. What is it that you are disputing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Guardian is still today referring to Crooks as the 'suspect' and 'alleged shooter'. Can't be to ensure he gets a fair trial, perhaps they're suffering from the lunatic woke mind virus. Stauffy definitely didn't do his thing for the notoriety, did he?
    Crooks was almost instantly killed by Secret Service agents returning fire

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    I read the article. It refers to Crooks as the 'suspect' and as 'alleged' shooter. What is it that you are disputing?
    It's obviously legal reasons. There's a dozen videos from the public of him climbing up, shooting and also getting his head blown, one us magazine has a picture of his head with blood pouring out post shooting I would have preferred to have not seen.

    I'm actually not sure what it is your saying to be fair though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    It's obviously legal reasons. There's a dozen videos from the public of him climbing up, shooting and also getting his head blown, one us magazine has a picture of his head with blood pouring out post shooting I would have preferred to have not seen.

    I'm actually not sure what it is your saying to be fair though
    I'm saying I don't understand why the Guardian is using this language when the person in question is already dead. What are the obvious legal reasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    I'm saying I don't understand why the Guardian is using this language when the person in question is already dead. What are the obvious legal reasons?
    No idea but it certainly doesn't concern me enough to spend 10 minutes looking it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    I'm saying I don't understand why the Guardian is using this language when the person in question is already dead. What are the obvious legal reasons?
    Until the Feds retrieve the bullets and check against the rifle Crooks had they won’t say categorically he was the shooter.

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