2024-25 season non-Hibs games thread

[MWHIBBIES]

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England had the easiest route to
a final any team has ever had in the Euros and even then they struggled to get there.

In 2016 Portugal played Iceland, Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Poland and Wales. They won once in 90 minutes.

[The Spaceman]

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All agreed Messi is the greatest ever player now right?

Beyond any form of doubt after the Qatar 2022 World Cup.

The longevity of his career, the silverware in his cabinet and the goals, assists, and everything else in between speak for itself. A truly magnificent footballer who has adapted his game unbelievably with age/pace dipping off. Seven Ballon D’Ors in an era shared with the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Modric, Mbappe, Haaland, David Villa, Luis Suarez, Robben, Kroos, Lahm, Neuer, Schwienstieger, Neymar…the list goes on.

Don’t think we will ever see anyone as great as Lionel Messi again.

[GloryGlory]

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will we still get a holiday

The Scottish Government should declare one in Scotland just for the laughs.

[DaveF]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gjp2q0e7o

[Since452]

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England had the easiest route to
a final any team has ever had in the Euros and even then they struggled to get there.

Outclassed by the first real team they faced. They will never get an easier route to the final again. Must hurt.

[Aldo]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv2gjp2q0e7o

Brilliant.

The atmosphere in the hotel I’m staying at in Kos is very subdued this morning. (Apart from us of course) Yesterday pretty much everyone was wearing England Tops/hats etc but this morning there’s nothing to be seen.

[we are hibs]

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Beyond any form of doubt after the Qatar 2022 World Cup.

The longevity of his career, the silverware in his cabinet and the goals, assists, and everything else in between speak for itself. A truly magnificent footballer who has adapted his game unbelievably with age/pace dipping off. Seven Ballon D’Ors in an era shared with the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Modric, Mbappe, Haaland, David Villa, Luis Suarez, Robben, Kroos, Lahm, Neuer, Schwienstieger, Neymar…the list goes on.

Don’t think we will ever see anyone as great as Lionel Messi again.

It was beyond doubt even if he hadn't won the world cup imo. That was just the icing on the cake. The fact managed to roll back the years in Qatar just proved even further how much he's on a different level to anyone else. I've never seen anything like Messi in that period between 2010 and 2013.

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[babahibs]

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All agreed Messi is the greatest ever player now right?

The greatest football player there will ever be, always has been.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

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All agreed Messi is the greatest ever player now right?

Not a fan of the greatest ever player debate purely because what makes a striker world class isn’t what makes a full back or any other position world class, and the debate is always dominated by attacking players. Ends up leaving out generational talents like Maldini, Beckenbauer and Brian Kerr


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[Springbank]

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Not a fan of the greatest ever player debate purely because what makes a striker world class isn’t what makes a full back or any other position world class, and the debate is always dominated by attacking players. Ends up leaving out generational talents like Maldini, Beckenbauer and Brian Kerr


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I'd add Baresi to that list

But I'd keep the rest of your list in too

[supermcginn]

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Not a chance. He's had it easy. Eusebio was better and he got chopped down all the time.

Messi is the greatest by a mile.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Diego Armando Maradona.

The end.

[Wembley67]

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Messi literally went off injured last night

Come on. By no metric can Eusebio touch Messi.

Absolutely impossible to compare players of different generations, so many metrics have changed over the last 20 years let alone the last 50 years.

All these greats should be left as they are and revered by the people who want to have them on the pedestal

[easty]

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Not a fan of the greatest ever player debate purely because what makes a striker world class isn’t what makes a full back or any other position world class, and the debate is always dominated by attacking players. Ends up leaving out generational talents like Maldini, Beckenbauer and Brian Kerr


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I just don’t get why people get so annoyed if you disagree with them on who the best was. It’s not an actual competition, it’s just opinions.

Nobody gets so angry when someone has a different best film or best song, but dare to say Ronaldo is the best and folk lose their **** 😂

[Stairway 2 7]

I used to think it was a stupid discussion and a waste of time comparing the greatest, until Messi did what he did consistently for 20 years. Hopefully he gets bettered one as I'm sure he will.

[He's here!]

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Really?
Been a fair amount of realism before and after the game. Of course there was a sense of expectancy as we would have if we ever reached that level but I didn’t sense any exaggerated arrogance. I have a fair few English friends and family who really didn’t expect to win.
As for the coverage, imagine the Scottish media if we got to a final.

Agreed. What arrogance? Only in the eyes of Scots with a chip on their shoulder.

[we are hibs]

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Agreed. What arrogance? Only in the eyes of Scots with a chip on their shoulder.

Hope you're okay mate.


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[DaveF]

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Agreed. What arrogance? Only in the eyes of Scots with a chip on their shoulder.

Why do you describe it like that? I didn't want England to win but my life wasn't over if they did. I've no chip on my shoulder, I just wasn't supporting them, much like not wanting Hearts to win anything.

Pretty sure the majority in Scotland were the same.

[MWHIBBIES]

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Absolutely impossible to compare players of different generations, so many metrics have changed over the last 20 years let alone the last 50 years.

All these greats should be left as they are and revered by the people who want to have them on the pedestal

You are right of course.

[Since452]

Would football coming home not mean it would come to Scotland?

[7Hero]

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Beyond any form of doubt after the Qatar 2022 World Cup.

The longevity of his career, the silverware in his cabinet and the goals, assists, and everything else in between speak for itself. A truly magnificent footballer who has adapted his game unbelievably with age/pace dipping off. Seven Ballon D’Ors in an era shared with the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Modric, Mbappe, Haaland, David Villa, Luis Suarez, Robben, Kroos, Lahm, Neuer, Schwienstieger, Neymar…the list goes on.

Don’t think we will ever see anyone as great as Lionel Messi again.

Hes not maradona..

The greatest..

[IanM]

In case anyone hasn’t seen the 4.15 at Newton Abbot today..

2m5f (2m4f216y) Well Done England Euro Champions 2024 Handicap Chase

[MWHIBBIES]

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Hes not maradona..

The greatest..

You're right. He's much better in every way. Far better international career too.

[Smartie]

I’ve got a humungous, massive chip on my shoulder when it comes to stuff like this and I’m not in the least bit ashamed. Quite the opposite.

[J-C]

How can you choose between all those greats, Ronaldo, Messi, Maradona, Pele and my personal favourite Best. Not forgetting, Eusebio, Puskas etc.

[He's here!]

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Why do you describe it like that? I didn't want England to win but my life wasn't over if they did. I've no chip on my shoulder, I just wasn't supporting them, much like not wanting Hearts to win anything.

Pretty sure the majority in Scotland were the same.

I'm responding to the post claiming '30 million England fans switched on their TVs arrogantly assuming they'd win'.

Like Marinello I just don't see that from present day England fans, at least not any I know and, as you suggest, I think it's really only a minority of Scots who try to cling on to that.

You couldn't really find a less arrogant manager than Southgate despite the fact he must (statistically) be England's most successful boss. Maybe he could have done even better but successive Euros finals is good going. The 'he can't beat better teams/gets lucky draws' stuff doesn't really wash. There are only a handful of better sides than England so he's hardly likely to be drawn against them every round. You can only beat what's in front of you and he does that with impressive consistency. Suspect he'll bow out now tho.

Anyone who remembers Argentina 78 will know true hubris. Yes we were (on paper) a decent side but Ally Macleod claiming we were going to win the World Cup was only setting us up for a fall.

[Since452]

Brazilian Ronaldo was the best for me. An utter monster of a player. A freak of nature. It's all subjective though.

[Callum_62]

Sam Allardyce talking absolute nonsense on SSN

Apparently getting to a final was a bonus and England do really well with a small talent pool

Baffling

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[Lago]

Now that Spain have won euro 24 when can we expect Steve Clarke to come out of hiding and give us his thoughts on Scotland's forth coming international matches?

[Scouse Hibee]

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Outclassed by the first real team they faced. They will never get an easier route to the final again. Must hurt.

Boom….I was spot on 😂