2024-25 season non-Hibs games thread

[NC1875]

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yup good point that only adds to what I think.

I guess the way Pep rotates is one example of how to refresh a team - but he has expressed frustration many times saying players are human and the week in week out 2 games a week - tv scheduling like 12.30 away saturday etc just insane after midweek games that might have been away.

The first game in EPL is 16th August 4 1/2 weeks after Euros final

Meanwhile, Joe Bloggs has done his 14th 12 hour shift in a row.

It’s a hard life

[FastEddieFelson]

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Was a penalty for me, no difference to one we got v Hearts when Hanlon nipped it off the Hearts strikers toes - was a very ill timed challenge with his foot up and nowhere near the ball.

Don't remember the Hanlon incident you're referring to. What year was that?

[truehibernian]

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You and Ian Wright are the only two I've seen saying that. All other commentators are rightly saying it's a joke. The shot is taken kane follows through. As a defender you'd just have to step out the way if someone is shooting just in case they follow through and kick you. Well played Nevil calling it a disgrace

The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

[truehibernian]

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Don't remember the Hanlon incident you're referring to. What year was that?

1-1, McNulty missed the penalty

[Onceinawhile]

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The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

The fact only ian Wright thought it was a penalty out of all the pundits, presenters, commentators and VAR experts must tell you otherwise?

Harry kane kicks him with his follow through.

In addition, after being booked, Bellingham commits 2 foils (one was at least a yellow) and kicks the ball away but nothing happens...

[The Modfather]

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The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

Kane catches the Dutch player with his follow through, not the other way about. If that’s a penalty, alongside defenders having to try and defend with their arms unnaturally behind their back anytime they are in the box what’s the point of being a defender nowadays.

[truehibernian]

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The fact only ian Wright thought it was a penalty out of all the pundits, presenters, commentators and VAR experts must tell you otherwise?

Harry kane kicks him with his follow through.

In addition, after being booked, Bellingham commits 2 foils (one was at least a yellow) and kicks the ball away but nothing happens...

I agree about Bellingham but the defender catches Kane even though the shot goes off - regardless the Dutch tactics were awful, too narrow, defensive and they didn’t look like they had belief - England deserved the win. Much better team on the night.

[Stairway 2 7]

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The defender is nowhere near the ball and hangs his foot up and catches Kane immediately the shot is taken - didn’t see the defender complaining either which is always a tell tale sign he knew it was misjudged.

The defender doesn't make the contract and wouldn't have made contact if Kane didn't kick him. Ex England defenders like Dixon and Neville slatting it

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Never a penalty 😂😂

[CockneyRebel]

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������ ffs are you being serious with that first line?

Whar about the second line?

[gbhibby]

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yup good point that only adds to what I think.

I guess the way Pep rotates is one example of how to refresh a team - but he has expressed frustration many times saying players are human and the week in week out 2 games a week - tv scheduling like 12.30 away saturday etc just insane after midweek games that might have been away.

The first game in EPL is 16th August 4 1/2 weeks after Euros final

Other sports the players play every other day week in week out. Most pros I have spoken to would rather be playing than training. The players playing in the Euros at the later stages will not need much of a pre season.

[Callum_62]

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I agree about Bellingham but the defender catches Kane even though the shot goes off - regardless the Dutch tactics were awful, too narrow, defensive and they didn’t look like they had belief - England deserved the win. Much better team on the night.

Is quite clearly and obviously not a penalty

Quite how the VAR decided it clearly and obviously was a penalty is baffling to me and pretty much every pundit - it's a clanger

Or big Sam's involved.

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[truehibernian]

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Kane catches the Dutch player with his follow through, not the other way about. If that’s a penalty, alongside defenders having to try and defend with their arms unnaturally behind their back anytime they are in the box what’s the point of being a defender nowadays.

Omeonga got away with a very very similar one at Tynie when Souttar got a nick to the ball first - it’s a penalty for me and the Dutch defender didn’t even complain, nor did his captain. His foot hangs nowhere near the ball, I’d always be looking for it if it were me.

[Jim44]

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������ ffs are you being serious with that first line?

Very.

[FastEddieFelson]

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1-1, McNulty missed the penalty

Ah yes. Here it is

https://youtu.be/WxNZT-CmwDc?feature=shared

Would say the two challenges are very different, given Kane is getting a shot away and it's him that initiates the contact.

Still I'm not as certain as some seem to be that tonight's wasn't a penalty... I can see why it was given.

[Stairway 2 7]

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Ah yes. Here it is

https://youtu.be/WxNZT-CmwDc?feature=shared

Would say the two challenges are very different, given Kane is getting a shot away and it's him that initiates the contact.

Still I'm not as certain as some seem to be that tonight's wasn't a penalty... I can see why it was given.

They are completely different as it was Kane that hit Dumfries, waste of my time watching that man ha.

To be fair of the 50 or so comments from England fans I've seen on twitter all are saying penalty but they deserved the win, which I agree with.

[Onion]

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That includes the euros, world cup, Copa America and afcon. I guess the Asia cup too.

So England wouldn't make the top 20 worst teams.

Seen some amazing Euro and WC finals over the years. EURO 24 has, by comparison, been a borefest.

It may be fitting that one of the least crappy/luckiest teams stumbles over the line but hopefully Spain (the best team by a distance) will stop that happening.

[truehibernian]

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Seen some amazing Euro and WC finals over the years. EURO 24 has, by comparison, been a borefest.

It may be fitting that one of the least crappy/luckiest teams stumbles over the line but hopefully Spain (the best team by a distance) will stop that happening.

The difference on Sunday will be Spain have a midfield, tonight Holland didn’t. And a world class midfield too.

[1875Hibees]

Just as some people on here were recovering from election night this happens and the tears have started flowing again lol

[Tambo]

Boss let us watch the game if we worked through our breaks, fair play to England, back to back Euros finals and can they win it?

Being born in England, I wouldn't begrudge them the victory on Sunday I do fancy Spain though.

Never a pen!

[Scouse Hibee]

We’re so bad, the ref is corrupt, worst VAR decision ever. I love this thread 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Can’t wait for Sunday when it will either be much the same as above or England were beaten by first decent team they played blah, blah, blah 😂

[gbhibby]

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We’re so bad, the ref is corrupt, worst VAR decision ever. I love this thread 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Can’t wait for Sunday when it will either be much the same as above or England were beaten by first decent team they played blah, blah, blah 😂

We are getting really worried up here as the last time England won a trophy there was a Labour government 😁😁

[heretoday]

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We are getting really worried up here as the last time England won a trophy there was a Labour government 😁😁

That's right. It's the Starmer bounce like Harold won the WC in 66.
He was enough of an opportunist to claim some of the credit!

[Jim44]

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We’re so bad, the ref is corrupt, worst VAR decision ever. I love this thread 😀🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Can’t wait for Sunday when it will either be much the same as above or England were beaten by first decent team they played blah, blah, blah 😂

Well mr Scouse Hibby, I am convinced that you will be a happy man on Sunday as Spain are unfortunate enough to be against the team which has been chosen to win. You’re correct. We will all be spouting your former suggestion, if and when they win, but, in my opinion, there is little likelihood of the latter, as England are being offered the tournament on a plate. ****** knows why, as they are piss poor, but they are.

[B.H.F.C]

What England have going for them is multiple players that can come up with a moment coupled with a lot of spirit and determination. They’ve come from behind in every knockout game but they’ll need to be a hell of a lot better than that to get past Spain.

[MWHIBBIES]

Obviously a ridiculous penalty decision but do think England deserved to win. Had the better of it.

Shows their depth being able to bring quality like Watkins on.

[ekhibee]

I had the correct score so got some money back on it, it shouldn't have been a penalty though, and to those who said the defender never complained, well why in that case did the ref feel the need to explain it to him afterwards, which he clearly did. And it's irrelevant if one sides better than the other that doesn't make it the right decision. How many times have we been the better team in derby games and lost or drawn these games.And just out of curiosity, was that the ref who served a six month ban for match fixing?

[Since452]

Incredible that Spain in the final will be the first "elite" team England have faced so far. It's quite bizarre. If they don't win this it's a monumental opportunity missed.

[Trinity Hibee]

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I had the correct score so got some money back on it, it shouldn't have been a penalty though, and to those who said the defender never complained, well why in that case did the ref feel the need to explain it to him afterwards, which he clearly did. And it's irrelevant if one sides better than the other that doesn't make it the right decision. How many times have we been the better team in derby games and lost or drawn these games.And just out of curiosity, was that the ref who served a six month ban for match fixing?

It was indeed the ref who has a match fixing past.

Harry Kane bought that pen and the officials fell for it. Disgraceful decision particularly in a game of that magnitude.

[Smartie]

England actually played well first half after they went behind. I thought they needed to score at that point though as they’ve played well for 20 minutes or so here and there in this tournament then fallen back into their laboured pattern of play. It then becomes a lottery whether they win or not, even though they’ve managed to come good every time so far.

Re the penalty - I think that might be a foul elsewhere on the pitch therefore a penalty in the box. If an attacker hangs a foot like that when a defender is making a clearance and injures him it’s considered to be a bit naughty so can the same not be applied there in the box? I guess the bit that is frustrating is that on one day it goes one way on another day and for another team it’s something different. First instinct for me though was that it was never a penalty.

Spain have been strong so far and I’ve been sort of waiting for them to run out of puff - often the best team in the tournament get edged out by anti-football and penalties at some point. Hopefully they’ve got one last big performance in them.

[Heisenberg]

The finish by Watkins was ridiculous, such a good player. Given the squad they’ve got it’s really about time they do win a major tournament but let’s hope they are still waiting after Sunday.