Tories are still lying *******s

[Just Alf]

And apologies, just noticed this is the wrong thread

[Ozyhibby]

STV led with Ross expenses story. BBC didn’t run it.


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STV led with Ross expenses story. BBC didn’t run it.

Hmm.

According to the Sunday Mail, Ross’s team have identified 28 claims he made to Westminister while carrying out work as a football referee after he had *already* been confronted about possible rule-breaking.

The findings have only recently come to light after the fallout over Ross replacing his sick colleague David Duguid to stand in his constituency of Banff and Buchan last week.

A senior Tory source revealed to the Sunday Mail the team discussed the travel claims when contacted by journalists but hoped nobody would pick them up. Ross apparently billed the taxpayer for flights between London to Glasgow and Edinburgh, where he was working as an SFA linesman. Only travel from an MP’s declared home airport, which in Ross’s case who was the MP for Moray would be Inverness or Aberdeen, can be claimed as constituency travel.

The expense watchdog, Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA), were led to believe that Ross was returning to his Moray constituency.

However, the claims were all wrongly classed as “London-constituency” with IPSA. Ross’s team identified the 28 expenses where he wrongly used parliamentary-funded travel for his refereeing work after he was first asked questions about the expenses by journalists in 2021.

The Sunday Mail also said a senior Tory source revealed Ross’s team had discussed the travel claims when contacted by the newspaper’s journalists, but hoped nobody would pick them up. The team had in fact identified multiple cases where the 41-year-old had combined parliamentary travel with linesman work or claims for parking while refereeing for the SFA on expenses.

According to the Sunday Mail, a party insider said: “The latest antics from Douglas are a disgrace and he should be ashamed of himself. He has always wanted to stay at Westminster and he’s completely screwed over a hard-working colleague to get there. Many of us are disgusted with it.

[JimBHibees]

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Agreed.

But for clarification on the Matheson case, the first he knew about the high cost of the bill was when it was raised with him after the fact... he didn't make any expenses claim regarding it. The rest of how it was handled though is down to him.

That is kind of how i thought it would work out

[JimBHibees]

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STV led with Ross expenses story. BBC didn’t run it.


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BBC nothing to see here. Absolutely despicable

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[jamie_1875]

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BBC nothing to see here. Absolutely despicable

It's the headline on the BBC Scotland website, I don't know for sure but the BBC website will get way more views than the local BBC news?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland

[Hiber-nation]

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BBC nothing to see here. Absolutely despicable

Still nothing on BBC Scotland TV news this morning despite the story being on their website. Not the main headline any more mind you so they'll be hoping it all blows over 😂

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceddenl8xz4o

I've found a reason to vote tory 🤣 at least in his constituency

[Berwickhibby]

Needs to resign full stop …never mind Tory leader if he has been caught ripping the tax payer of with his expenses and his collar felt

[Bristolhibby]

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Needs to resign full stop …never mind Tory leader if he has been caught ripping the tax payer of with his expenses and his collar felt

Yip, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

This isn’t some mistake, and badly handled afterwards. This is being at it, trying to squeeze a few quid out of the taxpayer.

J

[Bristolhibby]

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He's gone on enough about mathieson right enough... and he hadn't even 'claimed' the expense it was an automatic centralised bill.
In Ross's case he's had to actively put in the expense claim.

I know, that’s what makes it worse. Watching YouTube while on holiday vs actively putting in dodgy claims.

Got to go.

J

[Bristolhibby]

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1st week in office arrest the Post Office criminals.

2nd week in office arrest and interview the VIP lane criminals, facilatators and those who benefitted.

3rd week in office release the Russia Report.

4th week in office begin the arrests of known Russian assets.

That would set the tone for their tenure and allow the public to realise the last 14 years haven't been politics as normal.



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5th week in office, align us to the EU and the single market as quickly as possible. Get our exports and imports in an even keel again. Expand FOM in due course. Stop making Britain feel like we have to kick all foreigners out, re staff the NHS, care homes and farming Labour.

J

[Bristolhibby]

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Mathewson wouldn’t have made a claim but there would have been an expense. Not really corrupt if he subsequently paid for it.

Correct, if I use data abroad on my work phone it just goes through in the corporate account. If I was watching hours of Tic Tok I’d be given the chance to pay up.

What I do when I’m abroad with the work phone is, use it for work purposes. And use my actual phone for YouTube and Disney+.

J

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I know a guy who works at Scottish Parliament who tells me EVERY expense or financial claim that is made, a big box comes up on screen that says, I confirm are true & accurate with disciplinary action if found to be untrue etc. Or does that not count for MSPs

I work for a Government Department, and the same check box comes up with our expenses claims. Would be surprised that most big businesses don’t do the same.

J

[Berwickhibby]

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I know, that’s what makes it worse. Watching YouTube while on holiday vs actively putting in dodgy claims.

Got to go.

J

He was using his Government issue iPad to watch Celtic TV…that should be a criminal offence by definition alone 🤣🤣

[Stairway 2 7]

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Correct, if I use data abroad on my work phone it just goes through in the corporate account. If I was watching hours of Tic Tok I’d be given the chance to pay up.

What I do when I’m abroad with the work phone is, use it for work purposes. And use my actual phone for YouTube and Disney+.

J

But the difference is when it was pointed out to him how much it was, he said it was all government business so he would use his msp allowance to pay 4k of it, fraud. If he was a single mum trying to screw the tax payer he'd be in court but politicians don't live like us

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But the difference is when it was pointed out to him how much it was, he said it was all government business so he would use his msp allowance to pay 4k of it, fraud. If he was a single mum trying to screw the tax payer he'd be in court but politicians don't live like us

Yes, the response not the act was the issue. He should have ponied up the £4K and be done with it, put it down to being an idiot (especially as he was watching Celtic, if it was Hibs TV he could be forgiven).

Where as with Ross it’s the Act and the coverup that’s the issue.

J

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Yes, the response not the act was the issue. He should have ponied up the £4K and be done with it, put it down to being an idiot (especially as he was watching Celtic, if it was Hibs TV he could be forgiven).

Where as with Ross it’s the Act and the coverup that’s the issue.

J

It's definitely the act of covering up with Matheson. He knew he was sharing Internet which is illegal, lied saying he didn't and then said I'll put it on my tax payers expenses then. Pre meditated fraud. It was 6 months later it was found out and he admitted he tried to get the tax payer to pay and then he offered to pay himself.

Ross if guilty did similar, he knew he was lying but tried to stick it on the tax payer

[weecounty hibby]

Matheson has been a title and the SNP haven't dealt terribly well with that. But let's not lose sight of what this is about. Ross has once again shown that when it comes to rules, especially, finances, he feels he is above them.

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Matheson has been a title and the SNP haven't dealt terribly well with that. But let's not lose sight of what this is about. Ross has once again shown that when it comes to rules, especially, finances, he feels he is above them.

Matheson should have resigned 6 months ago and it wouldn't be a story. He doesn't care about the SNP as he let the story drag and damage for a year. I agree he has nothing to do with this Ross case whatsoever. Ross says the standards committee already checked the expenses but surely that was before the leaked messages. They need to get checking again and get him done. Couldn't happen to a better weasel than Ross, hopefully this destroys the chance of him winning the seat

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It's definitely the act of covering up with Matheson. He knew he was sharing Internet which is illegal, lied saying he didn't and then said I'll put it on my tax payers expenses then. Pre meditated fraud. It was 6 months later it was found out and he admitted he tried to get the tax payer to pay and then he offered to pay himself.

Ross if guilty did similar, he knew he was lying but tried to stick it on the tax payer

The first point, could have been innocent. I know lots of corporate deals have unlimited internet. Things get tricky when you go abroad.

Used to be in my place that you had to go over your work phone bill and annotate calls that were personal then pay the cost.

Now contracts are all inclusive, no need to do that.

At the point that the public purse was put at expense, then he should have got his cheque book out.

The rest is shameful.

Ross’s seems more pre meditated to me. Twos upping on work and SFA, pretending it’s Parliamentary work when it’s actually SFA work. Dodgy AF.

Hopefully we can see the last of him (certainly in Westminster) by July. Frankly if it was Scottish Parliamentary Business that would be a resigning issue. In fact, the fact that he did this in any public capacity should be a resigning issue.

All I ever ask myself is, what would the reaction be if it were Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbot who did any of these acts. If their head is demanded, then same same.

J

[Andy Bee]

Ross going to resign as Tory leader after the election and not stand as an MSP in the upcoming Scottish election if he wins a seat in the UK elections. Seems he's still going for MP though.

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/18...5477838http://

Fly lil git.

[Ozyhibby]

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The first point, could have been innocent. I know lots of corporate deals have unlimited internet. Things get tricky when you go abroad.

Used to be in my place that you had to go over your work phone bill and annotate calls that were personal then pay the cost.

Now contracts are all inclusive, no need to do that.

At the point that the public purse was put at expense, then he should have got his cheque book out.

The rest is shameful.

Ross’s seems more pre meditated to me. Twos upping on work and SFA, pretending it’s Parliamentary work when it’s actually SFA work. Dodgy AF.

Hopefully we can see the last of him (certainly in Westminster) by July. Frankly if it was Scottish Parliamentary Business that would be a resigning issue. In fact, the fact that he did this in any public capacity should be a resigning issue.

All I ever ask myself is, what would the reaction be if it were Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbot who did any of these acts. If their head is demanded, then same same.

J

Wonder if Ross sent the same receipt into the SFA as well?


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[Berwickhibby]

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Wonder if Ross sent the same receipt into the SFA as well?


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Regardless it appears he has defrauded the public purse …this should be investigated and if the evidence is there charged with a criminal offence, I also feel the same about Matheson as he knowingly tried to get the tax payer to pay his roaming bill, even after it was pointed out to him he was deceitful trying to cover it up.

[Ozyhibby]

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Ross going to resign as Tory leader after the election and not stand as an MSP in the upcoming Scottish election if he wins a seat in the UK elections. Seems he's still going for MP though.

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/18...5477838http://

Fly lil git.

Instead of resigning his MSP seat first, the public is now going to have to pay for a seperate by-election afterwards. The vote should be on the same day to save cash.


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The first point, could have been innocent. I know lots of corporate deals have unlimited internet. Things get tricky when you go abroad.

Used to be in my place that you had to go over your work phone bill and annotate calls that were personal then pay the cost.

Now contracts are all inclusive, no need to do that.

At the point that the public purse was put at expense, then he should have got his cheque book out.

The rest is shameful.

Ross’s seems more pre meditated to me. Twos upping on work and SFA, pretending it’s Parliamentary work when it’s actually SFA work. Dodgy AF.

Hopefully we can see the last of him (certainly in Westminster) by July. Frankly if it was Scottish Parliamentary Business that would be a resigning issue. In fact, the fact that he did this in any public capacity should be a resigning issue.

All I ever ask myself is, what would the reaction be if it were Jeremy Corbyn or Dianne Abbot who did any of these acts. If their head is demanded, then same same.

J

No it wasn't an accident it's illegal for him to stream his data out to anyone including family as people can get access to his government phone. He broke the rules from the very first moment. He was a month later questioned on the big bill he said it was all constituency work a lie and due to that he'll put a claim in to pay 4k of it. He knew what he was doing. He made a mistake and should have offered to pay and it's would have got him sympathy if anything, instead he lied and tried to put in an expense claim

Ross also knew he was defrauding us, politicians think they are above us

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LOL. I have no time for Patrick Harvie but this farewell to Ross is amusing.

[Andy Bee]

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Instead of resigning his MSP seat first, the public is now going to have to pay for a seperate by-election afterwards. The vote should be on the same day to save cash.


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Apparently they're not going to have a by-election if Ross stands down, is that even possible?

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/1800167884658028637

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Apparently they're not going to have a by-election if Ross stands down, is that even possible?

https://x.com/ScotNational/status/1800167884658028637

He's a list MSP, isn't he? So that means he can be replaced by another of his ilk.

I think.