SNP are lying b******s as well !

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If you could point me to an actual Socialist party, I would do just that.

There's a guy every weekend with a loud speaker and dozens of flags at East end of Princes St, he'll point you in the right direction.

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I’m glad Swinney and Forbes are giving this issue a very wide berth now and the SNP is back to dealing with more bread and butter issues.


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They will need to. Yougov yesterday had SNP at its lowest in over a decade and Labour the highest with a 10 point lead, this is Starmer’s Labour that people are flocking to so it shows the need for a centrist like Forbes. 5 years ago SNP were 50 ahead 4 years ago just before the Bute House agreement.

Sturgeon let Harvey in the boat directed it towards an iceberg and jumped out, continuity candidate number 1 kept the same path. Hopefully they are changing paths and the signs are good but they need to get Sturgeon away from doing interviews every day especially with more police drama to come. Need the polls not just to steady but start building momentum

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I’m glad Swinney and Forbes are giving this issue a very wide berth now and the SNP is back to dealing with more bread and butter issues.


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It’s like Swinney has done a Bobby Ewing style step out of the shower and the past few years never happened.

90% of people here will be too young to get the reference and the remaining 10% think I talk ***** anyway.

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Quite a bizarre take on what she actually said, but a good example of what she was referring to.

Nicola Sturgeon clearly says that the trans debate caused her downfall

https://www.dailysceptic.org/2024/05...-trans-issues/

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It’s like Swinney has done a Bobby Ewing style step out of the shower and the past few years never happened.

90% of people here will be too young to get the reference and the remaining 10% think I talk ***** anyway.

He is loyal to the leadership in the same way Starmer was loyal to Corbyn. Doesn’t mean he agreed with everything.


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Nicola Sturgeon clearly says that the trans debate caused her downfall

https://www.dailysceptic.org/2024/05...-trans-issues/

Try reading the words she actually spoke - which I posted in my reply to you - rather than the biased take on her words published by media sources that want to push a narrative for people like you to lap up.

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Nicola Sturgeon clearly says that the trans debate caused her downfall

https://www.dailysceptic.org/2024/05...-trans-issues/

"But she suggested that the trans rows that engulfed her contributed to her downfall."

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"But she suggested that the trans rows that engulfed her contributed to her downfall."

She said at the time her resignation was nothing to do with the "latest period of pressure" and it was just the right time.

It was obviously a large part of it, we'll look back at the thought of putting a male rapist in a female prison with revulsion. Probably not the only factor, Murrells loan and investigation, plummeting members numbers being revealed and polls crashing. SNP needed change it shouldn't have been too heavily linked to one person or view. It should be a broad party pushing for independence at all times in my opinion

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"But she suggested that the trans rows that engulfed her contributed to her downfall."

Nicola Sturgeon dismissed feminist concerns over their safety in female only spaces like prisons, some from within her own party, smugly telling concerned feminists, that their concerns were "not relevant", then what she said wouldn't happen, did happen a rapist called Adam Graham/Islay Bryson was in a women only prison. After a media storm, in which even Adam Graham's own mum and ex wife said that he had never previously said that he was trans or had been born in the wrong body and was simply gaming the system.

The sure footed and slick performer Nicola Sturgeon was clearly rattled and appeared to be doing mental gymnastics during interviews when asked if the double rapist in a women only prison was a man or a women. Nicola did say at the time that her decision to go was nothing to do with the Adam Graham/Islay Bryson case, so she does have a bit of a brass neck to now say the abuse she received over plans to reform the gender laws contributed to her reason to go.

Then again its maybe an easier way to explain her downfall than the pending storm that was to follow regarding the missing indyref2 funds.

https://news.stv.tv/politics/nicola-...first-minister

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If lying liar Sunak calls a General Election for 4 July, I wonder what phrase the SNP could use in their election adverts ...?

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If lying liar Sunak calls a General Election for 4 July, I wonder what phrase the SNP could use in their election adverts ...?

A nation, reborn on the 4th of July.

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If lying liar Sunak calls a General Election for 4 July, I wonder what phrase the SNP could use in their election adverts ...?

We're doomed Captain Mainwaring. Disaster for SNP as no time to tighten the polls and surely big losses in MP numbers. I think its soon enough for Swinney to say nothing to do with me let's build forward from here, which is fair I think

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An interesting FM questions where Swinney has just doubled down on Yousaf’s support of Michael Matheson. He’s even chucked in a Boris Johnson style trashing of the select committee. And he justified his position to Sarwar by quoting what he called his fundamental Christian beliefs. It’s been bizzarre.

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An interesting FM questions where Swinney has just doubled down on Yousaf’s support of Michael Matheson. He’s even chucked in a Boris Johnson style trashing of the select committee. And he justified his position to Sarwar by quoting what he called his fundamental Christian beliefs. It’s been bizzarre.

It amazes me the loyalty shown by politicians to other politicians …especially ones caught with their fingers in the till.

[GlesgaeHibby]

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An interesting FM questions where Swinney has just doubled down on Yousaf’s support of Michael Matheson. He’s even chucked in a Boris Johnson style trashing of the select committee. And he justified his position to Sarwar by quoting what he called his fundamental Christian beliefs. It’s been bizzarre.

Massive error of judgement, especially at the start of an election campaign. Dug himself into a massive hole here. Big error too for Swinney to major on the fact he cares deeply about and respects the Scottish Parliament, when it was only a potential VONC in him that resulted in the release of legal information to the Salmond Inquiry.

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What is Swinney thinking of, before an election too. Matheson tried to get the tax payer to pay when he knew he was sharing data when not allowed, worse he lied to parliament. Swinney going Trump and blaming the committee when 2 SNP MSPs voted to suspend pay for 56 days. Its absolute madness sticking up for a friend

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PF report in against Murrell for embezzlement of funds, still investigating Sturgeon

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Crown Office confirms it has received a report about Peter Murrell, former SNP chief exec, allegations date between 2016 and 2023

Crown also confirms investigations still ongoing into Nicola Sturgeon and Colin Beattie

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PF report in against Murrell for embezzlement of funds, still investigating Sturgeon

PF report drops the day after the general election is announced.

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PF report drops the day after the general election is announced.

Pure coinkydink.

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Pure coinkydink.

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The Lord Advocate and Solicitor General in the SNP cabinet do we think PF are doing some unionist plot. It was meant to be a plot to arrest him, now he's been charged less are saying that. SNP has been in power 14 years they set up police Scotland, its all a bit Trump saying the law officers are out to get one party

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Pure coinkydink.

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We were told last week it was going in.

Coinkydink is a great word by the way. I’m going to stick with that from now on.

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The Lord Advocate and Solicitor General in the SNP cabinet do we think PF are doing some unionist plot. It was meant to be a plot to arrest him, now he's been charged less are saying that. SNP has been in power 14 years they set up police Scotland, its all a bit Trump saying the law officers are out to get one party

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The Lord Advocate and Solicitor General in the SNP cabinet do we think PF are doing some unionist plot. It was meant to be a plot to arrest him, now he's been charged less are saying that. SNP has been in power 14 years they set up police Scotland, its all a bit Trump saying the law officers are out to get one party

He's not been charged? A report going to the PF doesn't necessarily mean a charge will follow, as far as I understand. The PF needs to decide whether to prosecute.

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He's not been charged? A report going to the PF doesn't necessarily mean a charge will follow, as far as I understand. The PF needs to decide whether to prosecute.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68850088.amp

Peter Murrell charged with embezzlement in SNP finance probe

He was charged at 18:35 after further questioning by officers investigating the funding and finances of the party as part of Operation Branchform.

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So basically SNP members get a fund going for an independence campaign, we are dashed by the law courts and Murrel decides to use that money on other SNP things. Have I got that right, looks more like he never told everyone what he wad using the money for, so money for SNP by members still used for SNP purposes.

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So basically SNP members get a fund going for an independence campaign, we are dashed by the law courts and Murrel decides to use that money on other SNP things. Have I got that right, looks more like he never told everyone what he wad using the money for, so money for SNP by members still used for SNP purposes.

Some of the "other things" include the research and production of the wee booklets they started to bring out to create a dialogue (I think that how it was put) so very much a building block towards any independence campaign.

For balance, not sure how the camper fit in to it

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So basically SNP members get a fund going for an independence campaign, we are dashed by the law courts and Murrel decides to use that money on other SNP things. Have I got that right, looks more like he never told everyone what he wad using the money for, so money for SNP by members still used for SNP purposes.

I've not seen it reported anywhere what the embezzlement was I'd be doubtful if it was using one fund to fund other SNP business. Its all speculation until its public

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I've not seen it reported anywhere what the embezzlement was I'd be doubtful if it was using one fund to fund other SNP business. Its all speculation until its public

Did this not all come about because someone who donated to the 'independence campaign fund' thought that the money was going to be used when another referendum was due?

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Did this not all come about because someone who donated to the 'independence campaign fund' thought that the money was going to be used when another referendum was due?

I think that is when they started looking at SNP finances but the police don't charge political figures and the husband of a lawyer without it being pretty tight. Its daft to speculate before the fact, most were saying there would be no charge and it was to embarrass the SNP, it obviously wasn't

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Did this not all come about because someone who donated to the 'independence campaign fund' thought that the money was going to be used when another referendum was due?

Does it matter who made the complaint…IF Murrell stole funds then he should be prosecuted