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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Police shoot dead a 12 year old kid for lighting a firework. One of 6 Palestinians killed that day.

    And the west continues to back this murderous state.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68557147
    I'm personally raging with the facts as known that have been presented.
    I'm white Scottish of no denomination, if I was Palestinian or similar, I could see this leading me to take arms.
    I know it's not the first time, and it won't be the last but the abuse of the settlers powers is just so blatant it would be comical (even though there's nothing funny about it!).


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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Police shoot dead a 12 year old kid for lighting a firework. One of 6 Palestinians killed that day.

    And the west continues to back this murderous state.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68557147
    Just another day in the Palestinian Territories, the West didn’t bother before, no reason to expect them to now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    I'm personally raging with the facts as known that have been presented.
    I'm white Scottish of no denomination, if I was Palestinian or similar, I could see this leading me to take arms.
    I know it's not the first time, and it won't be the last but the abuse of the settlers powers is just so blatant it would be comical (even though there's nothing funny about it!).
    Totally agree.

    The more I think about it, the more I feel that it's the Israeli state and the events organisers of the Nova festival that are actually mostly responsible for the hostages being taken.

    It's equivalent to Britain splitting Northern Ireland and putting every single Catholic in essentially an open air prison...then holding a psy-trance festival just outside the gates.

    On top of this, you've got the fact that the Palestinian cause had been slowly fading from public consciousness, just turning into 'one of those things' that are awful but that nothing can or will be done about - so from that, you have a massive motive for Hamas to do something horrendous that will incur a brutal Israeli response.

    To be clear - I do not blame the hostages themselves at all, as they are all products of their environment, and I've seen a fair few videos online of people who attended the festival completely denouncing Israel's response.

    I also don't doubt for a minute that the leaders of Hamas are horrible pr!cks, living very comfortably, while they sacrifice their own people. The really terrible thing is that Hamas and the ultra-Zionists basically need each other to stay relevant, so it's hard to see how this can stop. Bibi might get punted, but he and his party are by no means the only ones who want to get the Palestinians out of Palestine.

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    https://x.com/gozukarafurkan/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    IDF attacking unarmed men.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://x.com/gozukarafurkan/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    IDF attacking unarmed men.


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    They appear to be making a habit of it. Aid workers, those collecting aid, indeed, any Palestinians they come across. Should be called the Israeli Death Force

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    Russia and China veto the US resolution at the UN for an immediate ceasefire.

    Of course they did. Just as the US vetoed or abstained from previous resolutions because of who proposed them.

    It's all so pitiful and predictable.
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    40 dead and 100s injured at a concert in Moscow, heavily armed men stormed the arena shooting on site then blew the building up, biggest terrorist attack in Moscow, ISIS have claimed responsibility for the attack and the USA warned American citizens not to gather in big crowds in Moscow as there was a threat of a terrorist attack.

    Big question, Russian citizens will be pretty feared tonight and what does Putin do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    40 dead and 100s injured at a concert in Moscow, heavily armed men stormed the arena shooting on site then blew the building up, biggest terrorist attack in Moscow, ISIS have claimed responsibility for the attack and the USA warned American citizens not to gather in big crowds in Moscow as there was a threat of a terrorist attack.

    Big question, Russian citizens will be pretty feared tonight and what does Putin do.
    They are already blaming Ukraine (!).

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    Haven't seen this widely reported, absolutely horrific

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...blinken-visit/

    Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Haven't seen this widely reported, absolutely horrific

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...blinken-visit/

    Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit
    They continue to do what they want, when they want knowing full well there will be no consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    They continue to do what they want, when they want knowing full well there will be no consequences.
    Yep, and if you show support for the Palestinians you are an anti semite. The world is ****ed.

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    Stick an SS hat on her head rather than a scarf and job done.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Stick an SS hat on her head rather than a scarf and job done.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815
    An imaginary bloke in the sky gave them that land 1000s of years ago. Seems to be a strong argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Stick an SS hat on her head rather than a scarf and job done.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815
    **** of the lowest order

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68679482

    Not quite accusing Israel of war crimes but not far off. They really should just condemn this appalling Israeli govt loudly and clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68679482

    Not quite accusing Israel of war crimes but not far off. They really should just condemn this appalling Israeli govt loudly and clearly.
    I'm still struggling to see the difference between this and what the Nazis did in the Warsaw Ghetto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    I'm still struggling to see the difference between this and what the Nazis did in the Warsaw Ghetto.
    There isn’t any

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Stick an SS hat on her head rather than a scarf and job done.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68650815

    I believe the term she should be using is 'Lebensraum'.

    She's simply a modern day Nazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    I believe the term she should be using is 'Lebensraum'.

    She's simply a modern day Nazi.
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    She is simply a Nazi.In any day

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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e_iOSApp_Other


    Shhhh!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Sunak's response to that will likely be another speech about his determination not to be pushed around by foreign courts.

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    As well as totally destroying the al-Shifa hospital in Gaza, Israel flattens the Iranian consulate in Syria.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68708923

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    Another day, another probable war crime committed by Israel in targeting civilian aid workers.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-68710515

    A UK citizen reported among the dead, probably killed by weapons sold by the UK or US.

    Charity has paused it's operations so it's a win / win for Israel as it means they can starve the population just that little bit quicker.

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    More aid agencies pausing or stopping food supplies.

    Netanyahu and his fellow crackpots will delighted that their murder of these volunteers has done the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Another day, another probable war crime committed by Israel in targeting civilian aid workers.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-68710515

    A UK citizen reported among the dead, probably killed by weapons sold by the UK or US.

    Charity has paused it's operations so it's a win / win for Israel as it means they can starve the population just that little bit quicker.
    Disgusting. Reading Biden is about to agree a £20 billion arms sale to Isreal. It includes fighter jets and attack missles. Why the **** do Israel need fighter jets when they so heavily outgun Palestine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Disgusting. Reading Biden is about to agree a £20 billion arms sale to Isreal. It includes fighter jets and attack missles. Why the **** do Israel need fighter jets when they so heavily outgun Palestine
    So that they can attack Syria, Jordan or whoever else they want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Disgusting. Reading Biden is about to agree a £20 billion arms sale to Isreal. It includes fighter jets and attack missles. Why the **** do Israel need fighter jets when they so heavily outgun Palestine
    Carry on says Starmer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Carry on says Starmer.


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    Thought he wanted a ceasefire. Not really paid attention to what he's been saying recently. Read the UK had sold £42 million in arms to Israel last year and all defensive. They are basically supplied by the US and Germany who both have billions in sales. 60% of weapon last year to Israel were from the US and 39% from Germany. Need to stop these countries to stop Israel, although obviously too late. Although the thousands of missles fired at Israel I'd still give them defensive weapons but no weapons of attack

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    Another day, another probable war crime committed by Israel in targeting civilian aid workers.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-68710515

    A UK citizen reported among the dead, probably killed by weapons sold by the UK or US.

    Charity has paused it's operations so it's a win / win for Israel as it means they can starve the population just that little bit quicker.

    It now being reported as three UK citizens having been killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    It now being reported as three UK citizens having been killed.
    The papers only seem interested when westerners are killed

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