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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    I think it’s abond which had to be paid to allow an appeal. Could be wrong but I think Carroll gets a penny of it…yet

    I don’t think he has thr £400 million though, but I have a suspicion he’ll raise it somehow.
    She doesn’t get anything yet until after the appeal but once she wins, the cash is sitting there waiting for her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    She doesn’t get anything yet until after the appeal but once she wins, the cash is sitting there waiting for her.


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    Hopefully he will be bankrupt and in jail by then

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    Looks like trump has posted his $90 million bond by getting a bond/loan from a Russian backed business called Chubb.

    Nothing dodgy there then.

    Amazing how a billionaire with all this cash, needs a loan for 90 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Looks like trump has posted his $90 million bond by getting a bond/loan from a Russian backed business called Chubb.

    Nothing dodgy there then.

    Amazing how a billionaire with all this cash, needs a loan for 90 million.
    Chubb is a multi-national which operates in over 50 countries including UK and the US as well as Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Looks like trump has posted his $90 million bond by getting a bond/loan from a Russian backed business called Chubb.

    Nothing dodgy there then.

    Amazing how a billionaire with all this cash, needs a loan for 90 million.
    It’s not been accepted yet. Tomorrow afternoon before we find out if the lawyers object to it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Chubb is a multi-national which operates in over 50 countries including UK and the US as well as Russia.
    That the keys and locks company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    That the keys and locks company?
    No.

    Chubb locks n keys was a brand name owned by Assa Abloy…a rather large Swedish conglomerate. I think the brand is actually dead now.

    Chubb financial is completely different.

    The origins of why both have / had the Chubb name I have no idea but sounds like a good afternoon for some rabbit hole Googling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    No.

    Chubb locks n keys was a brand name owned by Assa Abloy…a rather large Swedish conglomerate. I think the brand is actually dead now.

    Chubb financial is completely different.

    The origins of why both have / had the Chubb name I have no idea but sounds like a good afternoon for some rabbit hole Googling!
    Ok cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    No.

    Chubb locks n keys was a brand name owned by Assa Abloy…a rather large Swedish conglomerate. I think the brand is actually dead now.

    Chubb financial is completely different.

    The origins of why both have / had the Chubb name I have no idea but sounds like a good afternoon for some rabbit hole Googling!
    Basically both originally set up by people with the surname Chubb. No relation to each other, I don't think

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    Basically both originally set up by people with the surname Chubb. No relation to each other, I don't think
    And chubb locks are still available.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Looks like Trump can’t come up with the bond for the 25th March deadline. Shame.
    Looking forward to seeing his assets start to get seized from next week.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Looks like Trump can’t come up with the bond for the 25th March deadline. Shame.
    Looking forward to seeing his assets start to get seized from next week.


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    Just read that, the fact his lawyers are admitting such suggests that he has no chance of raising it.

    Would love to see him get his assets seized, just hope it doesn’t give him a bounce in the polls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Just read that, the fact his lawyers are admitting such suggests that he has no chance of raising it.

    Would love to see him get his assets seized, just hope it doesn’t give him a bounce in the polls
    We're talking about the man who managed to bankrupt his own Casinos. How can anyone bankrupt a money making machine?

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    Read this on Quora a while recently

    Ridiculous debt. Trump financed the casinos with junk bonds at high interest rates, that had a slim chance of being repaid even if the casinos were successful. I’m pretty sure he knew this, and so after taking his cut simply planned on running, leaving investors holding the bag. When I first got into gambling someone once told me, “Whenever you win, put some away, then gamble with the rest of the winnings, then stop. Gamble with the casino’s money, not your money”.

    Overexposure. Atlantic City was already full of casinos. Trump wasn’t the first guy to dream about “the East Coast Las Vegas”. To add one more casino to the mix would be a significant risk. However, Trump at one point was running FOUR Atlantic City casinos. He thought that by having four of them, he might get four times the gamblers. Nope. He got the same number of gamblers, now spread across four casinos, at four times the price.

    Per above, I believe Trump had approached this situation with his real estate thinking, believing that four properties might net four times the revenue, like tenants and rents. Haha, totally different animals. Gamblers aren’t signing leases, moving into casinos, and paying rent. There’s only so many gamblers, thankfully a small percentage of the population, who aren’t at all like the majority of people who might be looking for residential or office space.

    Location. At that time in the 80’s, many of the high rolling gamblers were coming in from Asia. Trump knew this and had concierge offices with Chinese and Japanese speakers set up in his casinos. But AC was quite out of their way across the country, while most of them would be flying into LAX, where LV was only a short hop away.

    Indian casinos. A few years after Trump had got his casinos running, the US Govt cut a deal with the Native American tribes of the nation, for them to open casinos on their land. Much of this land was in New England, near NYC and AC. This had a devastating effect on Trump’s and the rest of AC’s casinos.

    Image. For some reason Trump has a well-known penchant for gaudy, ostentatious design. Lots of fake gold trim and opulent accents must surround everything of his. It very much seems to scream, “Look at me, I’m rich”. But like the old saying, money can’t buy taste. This was very off-putting to many, who’d rather stay and gamble at classier properties.

    Terrible business relations. Trump was well-known for being a cheapskate, demanding the lowest bid on construction projects, who he’d then delay in paying, or not even paying at all. The result, his casinos were terribly built. Guests often complained of issues with their rooms, lights and plumbing not working, and leaks. Word got around and this affected business. Years later as seen here, the abandoned Trump Plaza then actually started crumbling, so was deemed a public safety hazard and ordered demolished. A fitting metaphor for Trump’s casino ventures, as well as most other things that are Trump in America.



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    https://thehill.com/regulation/court...in-fraud-case/

    4 days to go. The only way he gets out of paying is declaring bankruptcy before Monday otherwise the state will move to seize his properties. If he goes for bankruptcy then Friday would need to be the day. Will be very interesting to see which way he goes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://thehill.com/regulation/court...in-fraud-case/

    4 days to go. The only way he gets out of paying is declaring bankruptcy before Monday otherwise the state will move to seize his properties. If he goes for bankruptcy then Friday would need to be the day. Will be very interesting to see which way he goes.


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    Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.
    Genuinely thought this might happen too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.
    Hadn’t thought of this but surely no way he gets involved in such toxic politics?

    His shareholders in his companies would freak out and I’m sure Tesla etc would drop in value. Maybe wouldn’t matter to him of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Hadn’t thought of this but surely no way he gets involved in such toxic politics?

    His shareholders in his companies would freak out and I’m sure Tesla etc would drop in value. Maybe wouldn’t matter to him of course
    Have you seen what he allowed onto X/Twitter since he bought it. Not to mention his own habit of liking horrendous bulls...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibs4185 View Post
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    Hadn’t thought of this but surely no way he gets involved in such toxic politics?

    His shareholders in his companies would freak out and I’m sure Tesla etc would drop in value. Maybe wouldn’t matter to him of course
    Take it you don’t do twitter, he is knee deep in politics with his chat on his platform, very anti Biden and seems pro Trump, every hour is a post from him about immigration and how illegals are killing American citizens, bet you he employs plenty of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhibee View Post
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    Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.
    It’s a lot of cash even for billionaires to just give away.
    I think he’ll find a way to get the bond but he’ll likely have to give up some of his assets. If he doesn’t then he is in big trouble.


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    What a champ.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    What a champ.


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    Kim Jong what's his name could not have written it better.

    America needs it's collective head examined just by giving this lunatic the chance to be president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveF View Post
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    America needs its collective head examined just by giving this lunatic the chance to be president.
    In the UK people voted for a party which chose Liz Truss to be Prime Minister. Liz Truss. It's not just America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    What a champ.


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    He should get bare chested and ride around on a big white horse ala Mad Vlad Putin. It's what real champs do.

    He is going to win the darts world championship today then become boxing's undisputed world welterweight champion straight after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostonhibby View Post
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    He should get bare chested and ride around on a big white horse ala Mad Vlad Putin. It's what real champs do.
    Being a blowhard about some dodgy golf round is the USA equivalent to a Russian President riding a horse bareback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Being a blowhard about some dodgy golf round is the USA equivalent to a Russian President riding a horse bareback.

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    Donna is right up there with Kim Jong Un in the Strangest Shape in a Strange Shaped Suit and Matching Hairstyle World Championship.

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    https://x.com/lauraloomer/status/177...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    Another 10 days to pay and bond amount reduced to $175m.


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    Trump at the Manhattan DA criminal hearing in NY before dealing with his lack of bond for his civil case under Judge Engoron. Trump's lawyer after starting with diversionary tactics is getting torn a new one my Judge Jaun Merchan. Trump and his lawyer have been asked to cite cases where there was clear judicial misconduct by the Manhattan DA and by the Judge himself. Said the lawyers pattern of delays has been going on for months. Before going into a break Merchan stated the Manhattan DAs office went so far above and beyond what they were required to do, that "it is odd that we're even here"
    Merchan after recalling the court offered a 30 day adjournment. In doing so he got Trump's lawyer to agree that certain things they have been saying are simply not true ( a tactic of giving him enough rope etc). He also pointed out that with Trump's lawyers experience in the SDNY prosecutors office he should know fine and well that he could have done what he is doing now, months ago. I think they are at another break now but this is not going well for Trump or his lawyer. I think NY state appeals court lowers Trump's bond to $175mil.

    TLDR? NY state appeals court lowers Trump's bond to $175 million for civil fraud judgment while Judge Juan Merchan notes a "pattern" of discovery misconduct in Trump's criminal case.


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    Trump hush money trial to start on 15th April Donald Trump's $464m deadline and Stormy Daniels hearing - live updates - BBC News from 17:03


    Trump said afterwards

    "they are doing things never done before, it happens in third world countries" and "the judge cannot go fast enough to get this started" Biden & his thugs etc etc etc, Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of Fraud related to an alleged cover-up of that payment in his accounts.



    ermm probably because they've never had such a bent corrupt crooked PoS for an ex-president before, ya radge


    and maybe if yer lawyers hadn't spent so many months with stalling tactics it would have been started a lot earlier, ya radge

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