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    Doesn't offend me but prefer a poll of polls. Here's every major poll since 2019 and a tracker. Single polls are useless in themselves but it's worth noting the trend. I'd say they were pretty neck and neck but I can see SNP moving to a lead up until election

    https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/polls_scot.html


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    https://www.scotsman.com/health/rese...ildren-4540109

    I suspect the SNP are doing this deliberately?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://www.scotsman.com/health/rese...ildren-4540109

    I suspect the SNP are doing this deliberately?


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    No doubt. The question is are the Tories doing what they are doing deliberately?

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    Humza saying the criticism of him in the papers on his decision to donate £250k to Palestine is islamophobic.

    Although when he skipped the vote on all the gender equality stuff the papers didnt say a word

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    https://x.com/factcheck/status/17628...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

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    Risen form 8% to 33% waiting over 4 hours. Doesn’t feel like much of a victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    Risen form 8% to 33% waiting over 4 hours. Doesn’t feel like much of a victory.
    I've always said they should publish the numbers of folk actually seen as well to give these numbers more context. Even when I played a part in putting such numbers together. Folk would be really surprised.
    Space to let

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    Risen form 8% to 33% waiting over 4 hours. Doesn’t feel like much of a victory.
    Demand has went through the roof. Supply has not.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Demand has went through the roof. Supply has not.


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    Not according to Public Health Scotland its not:


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    Time for Matheson to stand down as an MSP? Yousaf’s backing of him doesn’t look to clever now either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Time for Matheson to stand down as an MSP? Yousaf’s backing of him doesn’t look to clever now either.
    Personally I think he should be hung drawn and quartered and have his entrails distributed to every football stadium in Scotland, given the inconceivable levels of shame he has brought upon the country. Whipping is too good for him.

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    Personally I think he should be hung drawn and quartered and have his entrails distributed to every football stadium in Scotland, given the inconceivable levels of shame he has brought upon the country. Whipping is too good for him.
    Why the silly reply. In any other business he'd get slaughtered for trying to steal 12 grand through lying about how it happened.

    We'll get the usual it's not as bad as the tories but what is. His actions were shocking, Humza shouldn't have backed him and said the matter was closed.

    Could a byelection be triggered if he gets a suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Why the silly reply. In any other business he'd get slaughtered for trying to steal 12 grand through lying about how it happened.

    We'll get the usual it's not as bad as the tories but what is. His actions were shocking, Humza shouldn't have backed him and said the matter was closed.

    Could a byelection be triggered if he gets a suspension?
    He should be sacked. No excuses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    He should be sacked. No excuses.


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    And also, who ever is in charge of procurement who negotiated such a terrible data deal for MSP’s should be sacked as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    And also, who ever is in charge of procurement who negotiated such a terrible data deal for MSP’s should be sacked as well.


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    The EE contract ended in December 2021, he changed his phone Sim over to the new Vodafone contract in 2022 but continued to use the out of contract sim in the iPad resulting in the ridiculously high charges.

    If he’d used a new sim in the iPad I doubt the charge would even have been highlighted as it would have been within contract so quite a small amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    ... trying to steal 12 grand through lying about how it happened.
    I wasn't aware this was what happened. Flog him until he's dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    And also, who ever is in charge of procurement who negotiated such a terrible data deal for MSP’s should be sacked as well.
    And flogged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee View Post
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    The EE contract ended in December 2021, he changed his phone Sim over to the new Vodafone contract in 2022 but continued to use the out of contract sim in the iPad resulting in the ridiculously high charges.

    If he’d used a new sim in the iPad I doubt the charge would even have been highlighted as it would have been within contract so quite a small amount.
    Yeah a sim when out of contract still works but gives you the worst deal, every other MSP managed to swap over. He then shouldn't have let others use his data which was against the rules. He then when he found out about it shouldn't have paid it with expenses.

    If he said it was a mistake and paid himself he would have probably got sympathy and it would have been forgotten about in weeks. He's dragged it on and damaged the party

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    I wasn't aware this was what happened. Flog him until he's dead.
    Childlike replies. He should be sacked I'm not sure if its criminal though. Putting through thousands as expenses whilst lying about how it was accrued is shocking in my opinion. He then lied to the public about how it happened, he should have thought of his party and walked

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    I wasn't aware this was what happened. Flog him until he's dead.
    Well you are the only one then.

    Clear as day he knew what the charge was for and clear as day he tired to palm it off onto expenses. Aka theft.

    He then lied and lied about it.

    Other people get banged up for stealing that amount.

    Idiotic move that’s cost him a lot more than the £11k he tried to dodge in the first place. He’s also made this who tried to back him look like fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyeSloan View Post
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    Other people get banged up for stealing that amount.
    You keep using this word. Has he been charged with theft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Why the silly reply. In any other business he'd get slaughtered for trying to steal 12 grand through lying about how it happened.

    We'll get the usual it's not as bad as the tories but what is. His actions were shocking, Humza shouldn't have backed him and said the matter was closed.

    Could a byelection be triggered if he gets a suspension?
    Surely slaughtering him is just as bad as hanging, drawing and quartering him.

    Typical politicos though. If they any party wants to take the high ground against the incumbent government in a case like this the guy should have resigned immediately.

    (Taking the high ground against the Tories could be achieved by going down to the lowest point of the deepest potholing site on the planet, tbf.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    You keep using this word. Has he been charged with theft?
    Politicians aren't like you and me when they rob it goes to a committee when a single mum does it to HMRC she goes to court

    He has been found guilty of improper use and the committee hasn't decided his punishment
    "Mr Matheson was found to have breached clauses of the MSP code of conduct which say members must “abide by the policies” of the SPCB and that “no improper use should be made of any payment or allowance made to members for public purposes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    He has been found guilty of improper use and the committee hasn't decided his punishment

    "Mr Matheson was found to have breached clauses of the MSP code of conduct which say members must “abide by the policies” of the SPCB and that “no improper use should be made of any payment or allowance made to members for public purposes"
    So you're saying there's still a chance of the hanging, drawing and quartering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    You keep using this word. Has he been charged with theft?
    Aha so if I take something that’s not mine it’s not theft unless Plod charges me about it? Sure.

    You were adamant at the start this wasn’t a resigning matter. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

    He effectively stole the money as he knowingly and falsely claimed a personal cost through expenses. Hence when his sticky fingers were caught in the till he eventually paid it back.

    No amount of dafty mock outrage hang him high posts will change that I’m afraid but you crack on with them if you think it will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Childlike replies. He should be sacked I'm not sure if its criminal though. Putting through thousands as expenses whilst lying about how it was accrued is shocking in my opinion. He then lied to the public about how it happened, he should have thought of his party and walked
    Can he be sacked? He can be suspended which is likely and he could have the party whip withdrawn but I don’t think he can be removed completely. I may be wrong though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    Can he be sacked? He can be suspended which is likely and he could have the party whip withdrawn but I don’t think he can be removed completely. I may be wrong though.
    I meant from the snp. He should have been sacked as a minister and the whip should have been removed. I'm not sure if we have the same laws in Scotland around by elections being triggered through suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I meant from the snp. He should have been sacked as a minister and the whip should have been removed. I'm not sure if we have the same laws in Scotland around by elections being triggered through suspension.
    I would imagine his future in the party is being considered. It’s awkward for the leadership though who continued to back him even after it became apparent he had lied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    I would imagine his future in the party is being considered. It’s awkward for the leadership though who continued to back him even after it became apparent he had lied.
    Which was just daft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Which was just daft.

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    Did anything ever come of the Police putting a murder tent up in Sturgeons garden, was it last Summer?

    Was big news at the time.

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