Hamas attack on Israel

[greenginger]

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Are there a lot of these things lying about?


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How about this one ?

https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9726499

Seemingly China has 11 hospital ships.

[Moulin Yarns]

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How about this one ?

https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9726499

Seemingly China has 11 hospital ships.

We could donate the Bibby Stockholm 😉

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68040493

It's getting worse!!

[Stairway 2 7]

I like Micheal Horowitz here's a good new article on Ben-Gvir and Smotrich. Two people who were seen as outsiders but are now in Netanyahus horrible right wing government. Hopefully these ****bags are defeated at the next election as is expected

https://en.majalla.com/node/308766/p...e-power-israel

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-mid..._medium=social

Last lot of air strikes must not have worked?


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[Stairway 2 7]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-mid..._medium=social

Last lot of air strikes must not have worked?


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Good stuff. Through satellite images it was shown two of the strikes blew up ballistic missiles in their launchers. Not sure if there is anyone who wouldn't be happy about that.

[Ozyhibby]

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Good stuff. Through satellite images it was shown two of the strikes blew up ballistic missiles in their launchers. Not sure if there is anyone who wouldn't be happy about that.

I just doubt this will be successful. The low cost missiles and drones has changed things. The Houthi’s have managed to implement a naval blockade without having a navy. This is the first time this has ever been done and will have big consequences here and elsewhere.
I don’t believe we can stop them just by launching missiles at them, it is going to require ground forces and I don’t think we have the desire to do that.
I think the Red Sea will remain closed for as long as the houthis want it to be.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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I just doubt this will be successful. The low cost missiles and drones has changed things. The Houthi’s have managed to implement a naval blockade without having a navy. This is the first time this has ever been done and will have big consequences here and elsewhere.
I don’t believe we can stop them just by launching missiles at them, it is going to require ground forces and I don’t think we have the desire to do that.
I think the Red Sea will remain closed for as long as the houthis want it to be.


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So what is your plan do nothing. Probably needs a new thread as this has nothing to do with Israel it's Iran wanting instability.

We could do nothing and increase world prices for shipping, cause inflation, burn millions of litres of fuel in rerouting and have the ships that do cross hit by missles. Or we could try to do something. Long range drones need runways and missles need launch pads, everyone hit is a bonus

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So what is your plan do nothing. Probably needs a new thread as this has nothing to do with Israel it's Iran wanting instability.

We could do nothing and increase world prices for shipping, cause inflation, burn millions of litres of fuel in rerouting and have the ships that do cross hit by missles. Or we could try to do something. Long range drones need runways and missles need launch pads, everyone hit is a bonus

I would focus on stopping Isreal for now before dealing with Iran. Stopping Isreal may give some breathing space as far as the Houthis go.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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I would focus on stopping Isreal for now before dealing with Iran. Stopping Isreal may give some breathing space as far as the Houthis go.


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I think it's pie in the that Hamas or Israel will stop they have the means to go on their own. Houthis also will do the same as they have been doing for years, they are using Israel as a smokescreen it a nonsense. Greek and Danish ships hit who had no connection to Israel but Russian and Chinese ships have been told they can pass. This is Houthis Iran and Russia destabilising. To sit back and let them block it and hit civilians when they want shows these states they can do what they want. It weak and it stems from Europe being week when Crimea was stolen

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/skynews/status/1749860...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Wonder if this means we are considering ground forces?


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https://x.com/skynews/status/1749860...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Wonder if this means we are considering ground forces?


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Probably for their safety I doubt the Houthis are thinking kindly of the British in Yemen. Similar travel advice and leave advice happens in hotspots, all British were told to leave Gaza recently

[Bishop Hibee]

https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/a-sho...20with%20India.

Nice wee history of British involvement in the Yemen area here. Wonder why they don’t like us?

[Moulin Yarns]

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Probably for their safety I doubt the Houthis are thinking kindly of the British in Yemen. Similar travel advice and leave advice happens in hotspots, all British were told to leave Gaza recently

Leave gaza?? Good luck with that!!!!

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/skynews/status/1750432...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Even the Tories realise they are supporting a genocide. Starmer will likely fall into line now hopefully.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/patrickmcnamar3/status...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Starmer going full Arsene Wenger.


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https://x.com/patrickmcnamar3/status...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

Starmer going full Arsene Wenger.


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Starmer showing his “unequivocal” support for the zionists

[Stairway 2 7]

Absolutely brutal murder of innocent civilians in Gaza with literal white flags, evil *******s. Its not new though its been happening for decades

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Absolutely brutal murder of innocent civilians in Gaza with literal white flags, evil *******s. Its not new though its been happening for decades

And very few people bothered then.

[Ozyhibby]

https://x.com/ozkaterji/status/17508...dxJXScFNwz8V4A


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[MKHIBEE]

The ICJ comment on South Africa’s case against Israel

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveb...case-against-i

[Stairway 2 7]

So ICJ say they should stop the genocide but can continue the fighting in Gaza

UN hasn't been fit for purpose in years, we see it when Russia gets to head the security council whilst invading Ukraine

[MKHIBEE]

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So ICJ say they should stop the genocide but can continue the fighting in Gaza

UN hasn't been fit for purpose in years, we see it when Russia gets to head the security council whilst invading Ukraine

A rock and a hard place situation, stop the fighting then Hamas can regroup, carry on fighting, innocents die.

[RIP]

The US needs to import more oil and gas. It can only import from a friendly state.

Israel needs exports.

Gaza has oil and gas.

Israel is taking over land in Gaza

[Ozyhibby]

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The US needs to import more oil and gas. It can only import from a friendly state.

Israel needs exports.

Gaza has oil and gas.

Israel is taking over land in Gaza

The US is a net exporter of both Oil and Gas.


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The US needs to import more oil and gas. It can only import from a friendly state.

Israel needs exports.

Gaza has oil and gas.

Israel is taking over land in Gaza

The gas and oil are in offshore fields, in the main the Palestinian Authority have the access and drilling rights to these fields

[speedy_gonzales]

I don't think I've commented on this thread since the atrocities committed back in October, I've just read and watched the news in pretty much silence, but this recent attack by the IDF needs to be addressed. Israel wants to be part of the "west" but this isn't how we operate is it (with the exception of maybe the US raid Osama Bin Ladens compound)?
This was a targeted assassination and execution of militants suspected of planning a further attack, and one that was lying in bed paralysed (alleged).
Israel isn't even trying to cover up or hide these attacks which must be as illegal as those on October 7th attacks?!?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68137050

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I don't think I've commented on this thread since the atrocities committed back in October, I've just read and watched the news in pretty much silence, but this recent attack by the IDF needs to be addressed. Israel wants to be part of the "west" but this isn't how we operate is it (with the exception of maybe the US raid Osama Bin Ladens compound)?
This was a targeted assassination and execution of militants suspected of planning a further attack, and one that was lying in bed paralysed (alleged).
Israel isn't even trying to cover up or hide these attacks which must be as illegal as those on October 7th attacks?!?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68137050

it's not how we like to be seen to operate, but the UK has a proud history of state terrorism that goes back centuries, continued throughout the last century in Ireland, not to mention sponsoring a cornucopia of nutters all over the world when it suits us.

the whole notion of the 'civilised west' is absolute self aggrandizing colonial nonsense. i'd much rather live in a western country, but as much as anything else that's because we've made the rest of the world so unstable.

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it's not how we like to be seen to operate, but the UK has a proud history of state terrorism that goes back centuries, continued throughout the last century in Ireland, not to mention sponsoring a cornucopia of nutters all over the world when it suits us.

the whole notion of the 'civilised west' is absolute self aggrandizing colonial nonsense. i'd much rather live in a western country, but as much as anything else that's because we've made the rest of the world so unstable.

Yeah, not disagreeing with what you've said. I'm well aware the UK has been involved in plenty of unsavoury political and military endeavours, some even "illegal". But, I can't recall a time our "special forces" have invaded a foreign land, dressed as medical staff and patients to execute targets knowing full well they'd be seen on camera.
It's a two finger salute to the rest of the world.
I'm not arguing that a state shouldn't protect itself from aggressors but I doubt it this was the right way to do it and I get the impression Israel doesn't care about the optics anymore.

[Stairway 2 7]

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I don't think I've commented on this thread since the atrocities committed back in October, I've just read and watched the news in pretty much silence, but this recent attack by the IDF needs to be addressed. Israel wants to be part of the "west" but this isn't how we operate is it (with the exception of maybe the US raid Osama Bin Ladens compound)?
This was a targeted assassination and execution of militants suspected of planning a further attack, and one that was lying in bed paralysed (alleged).
Israel isn't even trying to cover up or hide these attacks which must be as illegal as those on October 7th attacks?!?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68137050

This or the Bin Laden raid isn't in anyway comparable to October 7th . These three were terrorist soldiers and a general who helped murder innocent civilians.

Israel are saying they were undercover police in a war zone. I don't believe them I think it's probably a war crime against a squad who commit war crimes by using hospitals so freely. If the had army uniform on and killed then in the hospital I wouldn't have a problem with it. I think it's disgusting to compare it to October the 7th, they may have been Jews who have a terrorist government but they were innocent civilians not soldiers

There have been hundreds of war crimes in the genocide Israel is perpetrating, this is low down the list compared to shooting journalists with sniper rifles