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    I think Trump or Biden could only win against each other. If either party puts in a fresh candidate, I think they win.
    I wouldn’t rule out Haley just because Trumps legal problems are mounting.


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    I think his legal problems will have to go as far as legally stopping him from sitting for him not to win. ABC were saying 90% of people asked who intended to vote for him believed he won the last election. There's a sizable amount of maga loons that won't believe the charges


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I think his legal problems will have to go as far as legally stopping him from sitting for him not to win. ABC were saying 90% of people asked who intended to vote for him believed he won the last election. There's a sizable amount of maga loons that won't believe the charges
    Agree, I don’t think it deters his voters but it may stop him getting on the ballot in some states. There are some swing voters who will not vote for him if he is convicted of a felony though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I think Trump or Biden could only win against each other. If either party puts in a fresh candidate, I think they win.
    I wouldn’t rule out Haley just because Trumps legal problems are mounting.


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    Marginally less depressing than Trump standing and, in my opinion, almost certainly,winning is the fact that the Democrats can’t come up with a more realistic candidate than Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    Marginally less depressing than Trump standing and, in my opinion, almost certainly,winning is the fact that the Democrats can’t come up with a more realistic candidate than Biden.
    I watched Designated Survivor and reckon Keifer Sutherland would be better than any of the candidates.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Been listening on the BBC for a breakdown of the vote and turn out. Have heard it yet or maybe missed it.


    Anyway his "huge" 51% victory amounts to 55,000 votes out of circa 2,000,000 eligible. Obama got 90,000 in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Been listening on the BBC for a breakdown of the vote and turn out. Have heard it yet or maybe missed it.


    Anyway his "huge" 51% victory amounts to 55,000 votes out of circa 2,000,000 eligible. Obama got 90,000 in 2008.

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    As far as Republican votes go it was huge, the previous record was something like 31%

    As said previously if they lose the democrats only have themselves to blame, having someone run who doesn't even know what day of the week it is half the time is just mental

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    I watched Designated Survivor and reckon Keifer Sutherland would be better than any of the candidates.


    Definitely

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    "Roughly half of evangelicals surveyed in an AP-NORC poll in October said they have a favourable view of the former president. That view is even higher among white born-again Christians, at 56 per cent."

    "“I think they are doing the same thing they did to Jesus on the cross,” one Christian voter told the Associated Press.
    “I am being indicted for you’. My first thought went to, ‘Well, Jesus Christ died for my sins. Jesus died for me,’” another voter told MSNBC. “So it connects in my brain that way, like, OK, he’s doing this for us … and he’s the target, where we don’t have to be.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-evangelical-christians-iowa-caucus-b2479115.html


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    Boris Johnson has said that “what the world needs” is Donald Trump.

    https://www.politico.eu/article/bori...t-ukraine-war/

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    DeSantis concedes and backs trump. Trump or Haley. Good luck Haley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    DeSantis concedes and backs trump. Trump or Haley. Good luck Haley
    It’s Trump. Meet the new boss
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    It’s Trump. Meet the new boss
    Yes I think so unfortunately. Will be slight favourite to win the election outright now, only in America

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    All eyes and ears seem to be on the antics of Trump and his sheep party. Is the Democratic Party equally rallied behind sleepy Joe or is there the slightest hope of a candidate who might prevent the inevitable return of orange peril?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Yes I think so unfortunately. Will be slight favourite to win the election outright now, only in America

    The UK elected Donald's pal Boris with a massive majority at Westminster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    The UK elected Donald's pal Boris with a massive majority at Westminster.
    Boris is an awful but I'd say they were more akin to Polands recently departed right wing government or Meloni the idiot in Italy.

    I think the difference is Boris was bombed after public opinion plummeted after he got a fine for partygate. Trump will come in after inciting an interaction, having charges of sexual misconduct and multiple charges of fraud facing him. Something like 90% of people who intend to vote for him say the election was rigged as does he, I think half of the tories in the UK agree the tories time is up and most will accept the election.

    Both undoubtedly ********s though

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    There is a school of thought that most Americans aren't following the primary process and are unaware that the orange skid mark is about to be up for President again. I will never understand those that check out of the electoral process because they're all the same. The belief is that once they do the mainstream will balk and vote Biden. I can't believe that the majority would vote for that idiot again (not that he's ever won a nationwide majority of votes in a general election).

    The Republicans are also doing a good job of baselessly smearing Biden so that a huge chunk of the electorate think "they're all as bad as each other", hopefully a few court cases and convictions will set that to right. There is no balanced news coverage here, so I'm not sure how it will play out.


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    The former president provides an elaborate description of missile defense technology: Ding ding ding ding boom whoosh boom
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1749633930062418166?s=20

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    Do we know if these are original audio, or deep state lip-synchs to make Trump look bad?

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    Oh he's losing it, so many times he's claimed Obama is still in office (I wish!), he recently confused Nikki Haley and Nancy Pelosi. All while claiming Biden is too old and past it.

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    Trump wins new Hampshire one of Haleys best chances at a state. Trump v Biden looking extremely likely. Trump slight favorite with the bookies and the polls but a long way and a few court cases to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Trump wins new Hampshire one of Haleys best chances at a state. Trump v Biden looking extremely likely. Trump slight favorite with the bookies and the polls but a long way and a few court cases to go
    A jail sentence should clinch the presidency for Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Trump wins new Hampshire one of Haleys best chances at a state. Trump v Biden looking extremely likely. Trump slight favorite with the bookies and the polls but a long way and a few court cases to go
    Haley's not stupid, she's hanging in there knowing that 2nd place might turn out to be 1st place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElginHibee View Post
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    Oh he's losing it, so many times he's claimed Obama is still in office (I wish!), he recently confused Nikki Haley and Nancy Pelosi. All while claiming Biden is too old and past it.
    I'm coming round more and more that there should be an upper age limit for those involved in politics. Absolutely mental that the presidency is probably going to come down to a straight choice between two guys who would be long retired in most other fields of work. Both seem to lack capacity in some regard and as much as people will say they are a figurehead and others will stop them doing anything really silly (like pressing the button), they are the ones where the buck stops.

    It isn't just in the US either. Albeit, our PMs tend to be younger than the likes of Trump and Biden but if you take our House of Lords to be our unelected equivalent of the US Senate, the HoL has an average age of 71 whereas the Senate is 64. The House of Representatives is broadly in line with the average age of the Commons, somewhere in the 50s

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    I'm coming round more and more that there should be an upper age limit for those involved in politics. Absolutely mental that the presidency is probably going to come down to a straight choice between two guys who would be long retired in most other fields of work. Both seem to lack capacity in some regard and as much as people will say they are a figurehead and others will stop them doing anything really silly (like pressing the button), they are the ones where the buck stops.

    It isn't just in the US either. Albeit, our PMs tend to be younger than the likes of Trump and Biden but if you take our House of Lords to be our unelected equivalent of the US Senate, the HoL has an average age of 71 whereas the Senate is 64. The House of Representatives is broadly in line with the average age of the Commons, somewhere in the 50s
    I know it’s unusual but France have a 34 year old Prime Minister..

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    https://x.com/zaleskiluke/status/175...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    He’s going full 1933 Hitler now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    He’s going full 1933 Hitler now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    He’s going full 1933 Hitler now.


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    1933 Hitler was way more conciliatory. This is 1936 Hitler. Once Congress is burnt to the ground we'll have a better idea as to whether he is serious or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    1933 Hitler was way more conciliatory. This is 1936 Hitler. Once Congress is burnt to the ground we'll have a better idea as to whether he is serious or not.

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    Yeah if interaction is acceptable I'm worried about where this will lead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Yeah if interaction is acceptable I'm worried about where this will lead
    We know where it will lead. If he wins we are all goosed, if he loses we are all goosed in a slower way. Far right are patient and wind their way around circumstances and opportunities whether they are in office or not they weild most of the power regardless. The current tub thumping for war is just another baby (goose) step towards catastrophe.

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