SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Cutting funding further by forcing councils to freeze the Council Tax is all on the Scottish Government though, their choice.

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/...cits-reach-4bn

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It stressed the crisis in local authority was not related to council type or political control and said the debate about council funding should not turn into a “political mud-slinging exercise”. It said it was wrong to assume that only “failing” councils would end up in financial difficulty.

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Voters choice though isn’t it? They have sent a clear message. Cut council tax or you are out. Can’t blame SG for listening. And any other party would do the same which is why Labour are backing this move 100%.


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SNP plummeting in the polls and loosing the by election has very little, if anything to do with council tax.

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Voters choice though isn’t it? They have sent a clear message. Cut council tax or you are out. Can’t blame SG for listening. And any other party would do the same which is why Labour are backing this move 100%.


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Eh. Where have the voters said they will vote anyone for this. They don't like higher taxes but have voted SNP in every election post raising them

The snp polls and membership collapsed from December last year, nothing to do with council tax

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This seems to be a relevant article to this current discussion:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...cits-reach-4bn

Snp and the Conservatives have shrunk council funding consistently for 12 years. The appalling council tax freezes has crippled councils and it effects the worst off disproportionately

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Voters choice though isn’t it? They have sent a clear message. Cut council tax or you are out. Can’t blame SG for listening. And any other party would do the same which is why Labour are backing this move 100%.


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It’s the SNP’s choice , 100%.
Do you think it’s a good decision or a bad decision for the country and in particular the less well off?

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It’s the SNP’s choice , 100%.
Do you think it’s a good decision or a bad decision for the country and in particular the less well off?

Bad decision, I’ve already said so. My problem is that it’s a decision that shouldn’t be able to be made. Local govt should be 100% be funded by local taxes.


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Eh. Where have the voters said they will vote anyone for this. They don't like higher taxes but have voted SNP in every election post raising them

The snp polls and membership collapsed from December last year, nothing to do with council tax

It was single biggest issue in recent by-election and Labour attacked the SNP mercilessly for raising everyones council tax. Labour won handsomely. If you don’t learn lessons from that then you have business being in politics.


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It was single biggest issue in recent by-election and Labour attacked the SNP mercilessly for raising everyones council tax. Labour won handsomely. If you don’t learn lessons from that then you have business being in politics.


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Not a chance it was the single biggest issue. In about 100 pre election tweets from Labour and Shanks Council tax is mentioned about 12 with dozens of mentions of change, fresh start, decline. Humza said criminality was mentioned a lot Ferrier and Murrell

If snp think this freeze will stable the ships in the next election they are complacent and in for a shock. We'll see in the next few polls but I'd assume its not in people's top 10 issues so won't change them

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https://x.com/kieranpandrews/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

As predicted.


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https://x.com/kieranpandrews/status/...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

As predicted.


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Another populist uturn. When Labour do it to get in its terrible when SNP do it they had no choice, have I got it right

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Another populist uturn. When Labour do it to get in its terrible when SNP do it they had no choice, have I got it right

Depends who you are talking to I guess. I personally think we have the tax bands wrong in Scotland, if not the rates.


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Depends who you are talking to I guess. I personally think we have the tax bands wrong in Scotland, if not the rates.


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This decision, if it’s made, wouldn’t be about the rights and wrongs though. It would be Yousaf in a panic trying to regain the middle ground he vacated and handed to Labour on a plate. Thankfully for the country and his party he won’t be in position after the next general election.

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This decision, if it’s made, wouldn’t be about the rights and wrongs though. It would be Yousaf in a panic trying to regain the middle ground he vacated and handed to Labour on a plate. Thankfully for the country and his party he won’t be in position after the next general election.

To be replaced by the London run Labour Party. Yippee can't wait

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To be replaced by the London run Labour Party. Yippee can't wait

The SNP will still be in power in Holyrood after the General Election and probably after the next election up here. Yousaf won't be First Minister though.

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This decision, if it’s made, wouldn’t be about the rights and wrongs though. It would be Yousaf in a panic trying to regain the middle ground he vacated and handed to Labour on a plate. Thankfully for the country and his party he won’t be in position after the next general election.

It’s a fair assessment. You can’t leave the centre ground in politics and expect to win.


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I’m quite intrigued. I had an SNP flyer through the door today. It was basically a reply business card with a wee survey on it. The intriguing part is all it had on it to distinguish it was my first name which was personalised and a part postcode. No address or house number. How did it get to the correct person? I actually work in direct mail and find it quite Bizarre.

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I’m quite intrigued. I had an SNP flyer through the door today. It was basically a reply business card with a wee survey on it. The intriguing part is all it had on it to distinguish it was my first name which was personalised and a part postcode. No address or house number. How did it get to the correct person? I actually work in direct mail and find it quite Bizarre.

The flyerer had your name and address on a separate bit of paper, from the electoral roll (or from SNP membership details)?

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The flyerer had your name and address on a separate bit of paper, from the electoral roll (or from SNP membership details)?

It's nuts how much info political parties have on people. I sent a FOI request to lib dems and asked for any and all data they held on me and got a spreadsheet full of stuff about me from them.

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The flyerer had your name and address on a separate bit of paper, from the electoral roll (or from SNP membership details)?

Assume it’s the electoral role as I’m not an SNP member.
Just my first name and part postcode. Bear in mind there are several houses in the street with the same postcode it must have been something like that but what a waste of time and energy. Just personalise it with name and address.

Edit. In fact it definitely the electoral role as it had my Sunday name on it.

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It's nuts how much info political parties have on people. I sent a FOI request to lib dems and asked for any and all data they held on me and got a spreadsheet full of stuff about me from them.

Under data protection laws you can tell them to stop sending you **** and have your details removed from their records.

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Under data protection laws you can tell them to stop sending you **** and have your details removed from their records.

I did I was just weird that they had so much on me even though Id never engaged with them., I've had a couple of doorstep run ins since though

[marinello59]

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I did I was just weird that they had so much on me even though Id never engaged with them., I've had a couple of doorstep run ins since though

They’re hiding in the bushes opposite your house.

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They’re hiding in the bushes opposite your house.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I had one of the councillors at my door the other week and noticed whilst he prattled on that cole-hamilton was going up the neighbours drive.
Was a good opportunity to shout over and point out that we all know he'd turn up for the opening of an envelope but is nowhere to be seen when there's real work needed done, or words to that effect

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It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I had one of the councillors at my door the other week and noticed whilst he prattled on that cole-hamilton was going up the neighbours drive.
Was a good opportunity to shout over and point out that we all know he'd turn up for the opening of an envelope but is nowhere to be seen when there's real work needed done, or words to that effect

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Why oh why is it taking soooo loooong for the polis to complete their campervangate investigation? Shirley they won't be bringing charges/completing their efforts without bringing charges either in the run-up to a general election or in the immediate aftermath of a general election? The optics would be too bad, wouldn't they?

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Why oh why is it taking soooo loooong for the polis to complete their campervangate investigation? Shirley they won't be bringing charges/completing their efforts without bringing charges either in the run-up to a general election or in the immediate aftermath of a general election? The optics would be too bad, wouldn't they?

How long do similar large investigations take

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How long do similar large investigations take

Is it a large investigation?

A sum of money and three people involved doesn't exactly sound labyrinthine.

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Is it a large investigation?

A sum of money and three people involved doesn't exactly sound labyrinthine.

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Especially when everyone is co-operating and the company accounts have been made available. It really shouldn’t be a difficult investigation.


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Is it a large investigation?

A sum of money and three people involved doesn't exactly sound labyrinthine.

Specially when it seemed the money hadn't gone missing, just been spent on other things ...?

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Is it a large investigation?

A sum of money and three people involved doesn't exactly sound labyrinthine.

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Well in comparison a boy at work has been waiting a year and a half to be a witness at an assault trial. Meant to be a huge backlog at PF and police. Think money matters would take longer as specialists would have to go through everything

I've personally no idea though, probably some better placed on here