Housing

[superfurryhibby]

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Are you saying that Landords have been immune to Covid and the cost of living crisis?

That their mortgage, annual saftey inspections and any maintenance contractor costs haven't sky rocketed like they have for the rest of us?

No, I’m saying that there are people doing what people do and milking it to the maximum. There is plenty of evidence which suggests that a large number of landlords are doing exactly that.

[Ozyhibby]

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcas...=1000629150093

From about 22 mins in, there is a piece about housing and how Vienna is getting it right and we are getting it so wrong. There is even an example of rent control that works but I’d argue that the circumstances are so different that it just shows why it wouldn’t work here.


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[superfurryhibby]

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https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcas...=1000629150093

From about 22 mins in, there is a piece about housing and how Vienna is getting it right and we are getting it so wrong. There is even an example of rent control that works but I’d argue that the circumstances are so different that it just shows why it wouldn’t work here.


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Just possibly.

That's why you referring to a paper which talks about rent caps in places In the USA and Australia isn't that relevant to housing in Scotland either?

Interesting to read that the rent freeze has some reasonable exceptions to it.

Here's some circumstances whereby rent increases beyond the 3% might be made.

"Private rented sector exceptions to the cap
If a private landlord has incurred relevant costs in connection with the let tenancy in the 6 months prior to increasing the rent they may:

issue a valid rent increase notice

apply to Rent Service Scotland

prove to a rent officer that the increase is as a result of incurred costs

Relevant incurred costs are limited to:

mortgage or standard security interest

an insurance premium (other than general building and contents insurance)

service charges paid for by the landlord but the payment of which the tenant is responsible for under the tenancy.

https://scotland.shelter.org.uk/prof...n_ban_rent_cap

[Stairway 2 7]

Shelter has an online petition to ask the Scottish Government not to cut social housing spending if anyone wishes to sign

https://act.scotland.shelter.org.uk/...er&utm_id=fa23

[superfurryhibby]

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Shelter has an online petition to ask the Scottish Government not to cut social housing spending if anyone wishes to sign

https://act.scotland.shelter.org.uk/...er&utm_id=fa23

Signed.

[neil7908]

Don't worry renters, the Tories are completely on your side and definitely don't have scarcely believable, absurdly elitist views about you. In fact, this is that Housing Minster making this completely clear:

"There are plenty of young people who are in the [private rented sector] who are not weed-smoking bad people, in gangs and crack dens and everything else and smashing up the neighbourhood," she said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66978108

[superfurryhibby]

The former chair of Tollcross community council told the Evening News: “Airbnb used to be just rooms in houses when people still lived in the property and I don’t have a problem with that. But when it’s eating up entire blocks of flats then it’s a huge issue. Areas of the city have become unsuitable for people to live in as a result. The photo of one block with notices for planning and licenses to me sums up the desperate situation. The sheer volume of short-term lets takes too many properties out of stock and rents go up. I am a long-term renter and I know I would find it impossible to get a place now. I think people have been pushed too far. They are fed up and just going for the nuclear option now. That’s why there’s tools online helping people to object to short-term let applications. I hope they enforce these rules. Things need to change in favour of the residents.”

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...centre-4357899

This must be having a huge impact on the housing availability and rent prices in Edinburgh?

[Peanut Shaz]

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Shelter has an online petition to ask the Scottish Government not to cut social housing spending if anyone wishes to sign

https://act.scotland.shelter.org.uk/...er&utm_id=fa23

Signed. As someone who works in the Social Housing sector I cannot stress enough how devastating these cuts would be.

[Pretty Boy]

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Shelter has an online petition to ask the Scottish Government not to cut social housing spending if anyone wishes to sign

https://act.scotland.shelter.org.uk/...er&utm_id=fa23

Done.

[AgentDaleCooper]

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No, I’m saying that there are people doing what people do and milking it to the maximum. There is plenty of evidence which suggests that a large number of landlords are doing exactly that.

i was speaking to someone today who has been trying to get a flat to rent in Edinburgh for ages - they finally got to view one, only to be told that due to the massive demand, the landlord had put his price up by several hundred pounds.

the problem is that people can't tell the difference between the market and their own morality - it's why the world is burning. i hope, one day, that the above landlord realises what an utter scalping **** he's been and feels the appropriate amount of guilt.

[Ozyhibby]

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i was speaking to someone today who has been trying to get a flat to rent in Edinburgh for ages - they finally got to view one, only to be told that due to the massive demand, the landlord had put his price up by several hundred pounds.

the problem is that people can't tell the difference between the market and their own morality - it's why the world is burning. i hope, one day, that the above landlord realises what an utter scalping **** he's been and feels the appropriate amount of guilt.

When you have more buyers than sellers then prices rise.


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[marinello59]

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When you have more buyers than sellers then prices rise.


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Spoken like a true Tory. The market is king and that is the way it must always be.

[Ozyhibby]

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Spoken like a true Tory. The market is king and that is the way it must always be.

It’s just a fact. You don’t need to be a Tory to know that.
Everyone seems to understand supply and demand with housing when it comes to short term lets but put the blinkers on with every other issue with the housing market.


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[AgentDaleCooper]

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It’s just a fact. You don’t need to be a Tory to know that.
Everyone seems to understand supply and demand with housing when it comes to short term lets but put the blinkers on with every other issue with the housing market.


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it's not a fact, it's an interpretation that's been normalised by decades of neo-liberalism.

[Ozyhibby]

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it's not a fact, it's an interpretation that's been normalised by decades of neo-liberalism.

No, it’s a fact.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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Spoken like a true Tory. The market is king and that is the way it must always be.

It's just common sense. It's horrible when it happens to something that should be a given like a roof over our heads, but simple economics.

That doesn’t mean you can't do anything like increase housebuilding, especially social housing. But unfortunately when there is less of something price goes up. Its up to the government to sort that

[AgentDaleCooper]

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No, it’s a fact.


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I don't think you know what the word 'fact' means

[Ozyhibby]

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I don't think you know what the word 'fact' means

I’m sure you can give an example to show I’m wrong?


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[Hibs4185]

Im a landlord and just reduced my tenants rent by £200 for the next 6 months because he’s had a bit of a setback and he has a new baby on the way. He already pays below market rent for it.

There are good landlords out there!

[Ozyhibby]

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Im a landlord and just reduced my tenants rent by £200 for the next 6 months because he’s had a bit of a setback and he has a new baby on the way. He already pays below market rent for it.

There are good landlords out there!

Some landlords are richer than others.


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[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-...ign_type=owned


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[Hibs4185]

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Some landlords are richer than others.


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I’m not remotely rich, it pays the mortgage and covers any maintenance that’s about it.

[superfurryhibby]

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Im a landlord and just reduced my tenants rent by £200 for the next 6 months because he’s had a bit of a setback and he has a new baby on the way. He already pays below market rent for it.

There are good landlords out there!

'Mon the good landlords, sounds very decent of you.

[Hibs4185]

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'Mon the good landlords, sounds very decent of you.

Makes up for the black mould, leaking ceilings and no hot water!

Joking

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...r_name=twitter

Rent cap working a treat.
It’s not the only issue unfortunately. The UK govt have been forcing landlords out the industry for a decade now. This is the results you get.


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[Ozyhibby]

BBC 1 just now


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[Ozyhibby]

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BBC 1 just now


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And BBC 2 just now has another show about the failure of the property market.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...es-1-episode-1

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[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/edi...essness-crisis

Edinburgh declaring a housing emergency.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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https://news.stv.tv/east-central/edi...essness-crisis

Edinburgh declaring a housing emergency.


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We need to build high quality apartments imo not 4 bed semi detached. Build up and further out. It's a disaster in Edinburgh. The biggest issue facing many in Edinburgh, prices up 15%

[Ozyhibby]

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We need to build high quality apartments imo not 4 bed semi detached. Build up and further out. It's a disaster in Edinburgh. The biggest issue facing many in Edinburgh, prices up 15%

We need a bit of everything but I agree that more dense housing, especially near the centre of Edinburgh is needed. Most developments have a proportion of flats as you enter the development.
People still want gardens when they have a family and there is no shortage of space. We have enough land. It’s political will that is lacking.


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