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    Ref tomorrow.

    John Beaton with Nick Walsh on var.


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    Could be ok tomorrow.

    Not playing Rangers, Porto has moved on and they won’t see us as a threat to them being in top 2 positions in the league. Any dodgy decisions will be incompetence rather than out and out cheating.

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    I take it they will communicate with each other starting with Hello Hello is that the billy boy!

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    So one with the apron and the other one in the room alone with the goat?

    VAR Scotland style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argylehibby View Post
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    Could be ok tomorrow.

    Not playing Rangers, Porto has moved on and they won’t see us as a threat to them being in top 2 positions in the league. Any dodgy decisions will be incompetence rather than out and out cheating.
    Yes.... "incompetence".

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    Hopefully this is the last time they are paired together ... Have a horrible feeling the duo will be rolled out for the final if Hibs and The Rangers are featuring.

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    I never really bother who is refereeing, most are poor so you know you are going to get bad decisions every game.

    In theory VAR should stop the terrible ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    I never really bother who is refereeing, most are poor so you know you are going to get bad decisions every game.

    In theory VAR should stop the terrible ones.
    Have you ever read any posts proclaiming delight at a refereeing appointment?

    They’re basically all pretty hopeless. Probably a consequence of not having total freedom to referee games as they see it in a “referees interpretation is final” environment. VAR is supposedly to assist officials to get decisions right, but it has actually put the referees and officials under more pressure than before VAR it’s made performances worse under more intense scrutiny.

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    These two should be nowhere near a Hibs game EVER !. Two Huns who probably have a total dislike for Hibs. SFA at it again and just shows how corrupt the game is!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    These two should be nowhere near a Hibs game EVER !. Two Huns who probably have a total dislike for Hibs. SFA at it again and just shows how corrupt the game is!.
    They are hardly "at it" by appointing one of our normal referees.

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    They are hardly "at it" by appointing one of our normal referees.
    I'd hardly call them NORMAL referee's when everyone knows Walsh has an affillation with Sevco thru his work , Beaton has been caught drinking with them in a Hun pub after an old firm game as well . If you look back at the decisions both have been involved with in our games we have rarely seen them going our way if at all . Both are out in out Huns imo and shouldn't be near Hibs games .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    I'd hardly call them NORMAL referee's when everyone knows Walsh has an affillation with Sevco thru his work , Beaton has been caught drinking with them in a Hun pub after an old firm game as well . If you look back at the decisions both have been involved with in our games we have rarely seen them going our way if at all . Both are out in out Huns imo and shouldn't be near Hibs games .
    Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Huns games either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    I'd hardly call them NORMAL referee's when everyone knows Walsh has an affillation with Sevco thru his work , Beaton has been caught drinking with them in a Hun pub after an old firm game as well . If you look back at the decisions both have been involved with in our games we have rarely seen them going our way if at all . Both are out in out Huns imo and shouldn't be near Hibs games .
    So whose games should they be near then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    So whose games should they be near then?
    Walsh has a conflict of interests and Beaton has compromised himself by brazenly drinking in a well known Rangers pub.

    So to answer the question, none in Scotland.

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    Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near Huns games either.
    St Johnstone v Livingston is where they should have been put .Both should be nowhere near Hibs , Celtic or Sevco games if the SFA were doing things correctly of course though time and time again we get them and in alot of games against the Huns as well .

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    So whose games should they be near then?
    Personally I wouldn't give them any though St Johnstone v Livingston would probably be the best pick or put both refereeing in the championship. I know the standard of refereeing isn't great in Scottish football but it's more than just being poor in Beaton and Walsh case . Having ones bad enough but two is really taking the p*** .

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    So whose games should they be near then?
    They shouldn't be refereeing at the highest level in Scotland or anywhere else, but geographical location and goat wrangling skills are the main criteria for promotion within Scottish refereeing.

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    The word 'best' doesn't really come into it when it comes to our refs, the most you can hope for with any of them is that they rise above the normal level of incompetence.

    Our refs are drawn from a tiny geographical area in a closed shop that practically precludes anybody east of Motherwell from becoming a grade one ref ... the results of that are there for all to see. You would think never getting a ref picked to officiate at major international tournaments, when countries of a similar size do all the time, would have rung alarm bells by now. It's not just the fans who think our refs are rubbish, UEFA and FIFA do as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE View Post
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    The word 'best' doesn't really come into it when it comes to our refs, the most you can hope for with any of them is that they rise above the normal level of incompetence.

    Our refs are drawn from a tiny geographical area in a closed shop that practically precludes anybody east of Motherwell from becoming a grade one ref ... the results of that are there for all to see. You would think never getting a ref picked to officiate at major international tournaments, when countries of a similar size do all the time, would have rung alarm bells by now. It's not just the fans who think our refs are rubbish, UEFA and FIFA do as well.
    Agree completely and been saying exactly that for years. The other thing I wonder about is why anyone else in Scotland even bothers, any referee from Elgin, Inverness etc etc will know full well they have no chance of making the top level.

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    We're playing Dundee. What does it matter who the ref is or where he is from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    We're playing Dundee. What does it matter who the ref is or where he is from?
    Thankfully, Monty won't be under estimating them.

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    That's the worst combination we could ask for, 2 total Huns that don't even try and hide it.

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    In the space of a few days, Walsh denied St Mirren a 2nd v Hearts with a shocking decision and followed that abomination on Wednesday by refusing to ask Collum to review The Rangers 1st goal v Livingston.

    Beaton showed his ‘true-blue’ colours by corruptly allowing Rangers’ late equaliser v Albion Rovers in the Scottish Cup back in ‘14, still one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen…

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyakrjja76k
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    That's the worst combination we could ask for, 2 total Huns that don't even try and hide it.
    It really isn't.

    Napier is the worst. No argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LewysGot2 View Post
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    It really isn't.

    Napier is the worst. No argument.
    Christ I forgot about him, I'll give you that he is a farce, there is no other explanation for it, they are blatant cheats the lot of them, even with VAR it's the same muppets on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoboHarry View Post
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    Thankfully, Monty won't be under estimating them.
    What you on about this time?

    We're not playing one of the OF and there's never been any chat whatsoever of refereeing bias in favour of a club from Dundee over Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    What you on about this time?

    We're not playing one of the OF and there's never been any chat whatsoever of refereeing bias in favour of a club from Dundee over Hibs.
    You are correct but I’m more concerned these days about the refereeing bias against Hibs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhileTheChief.. View Post
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    We're playing Dundee. What does it matter who the ref is or where he is from?
    Exactly, the minute the players start to flap over who the referee is we are onto a loser.

    Fans on here were getting their knickers in a twist because Craig Thomson reffed our cup game at Tynecastle in February 7th 2016. After the match he didn't even get a mention.

    If the players do their job properly tomorrow then we will probably win, it's down to them and not the referee or who is on VAR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    Exactly, the minute the players start to flap over who the referee is we are onto a loser.

    Fans on here were getting their knickers in a twist because Craig Thomson reffed our cup game at Tynecastle in February 7th 2016. After the match he didn't even get a mention.

    If the players do their job properly tomorrow then we will probably win, it's down to them and not the referee or who is on VAR.
    Very true, mind though it’s the wee non VAR decisions that annoy me with Beaton. Best ref we’ve had in recent years was Calum Murray - Hearts fan but incredibly fair and impartial - and reffed the 1-0 cup win when Spoony scored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truehibernian View Post
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    Very true, mind though it’s the wee non VAR decisions that annoy me with Beaton. Best ref we’ve had in recent years was Calum Murray - Hearts fan but incredibly fair and impartial - and reffed the 1-0 cup win when Spoony scored.
    Agreed on Murray. Was he not bombed out after a dodgy decision against Rangers though? I seem to be remember something about his rather swift exit.

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