Josh Campbell

[Donegal Hibby]

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Clearly hasn't impressed in training. Left out the team today.

Don't know how you came up with that conclusion . Campbell's one of the hardest working players we have btw , couldn't it have been due to us being away from home and up against a team that's beaten both old firm team's that we simply opted for a more defense minded Midfielder to partner Newell in Jeggo rather than a attacking one in Campbell? . Who I thought had a good game and the normally excellent Joe Newell had a extremely poor game for his standards tbh . Said it before Midfields a problem . It was clear to see in the 2nd half .

[greenlex]

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Thought he was a strange sub today. More the bringing him on and dropping Le Fondre deeper to play Campbell up top. Weird.

Sort of. Campbell was always going to do more running up top in the absence of Doidge. Nit saying it worked by any means but I could see the thinking. He was going to close down the opposition more and he dies know where the back of the net is.

[supermcginn]

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Don't know how you came up with that conclusion . Campbell's one of the hardest working players we have btw , couldn't it have been due to us being away from home and up against a team that's beaten both old firm team's that we simply opted for a more defense minded Midfielder to partner Newell in Jeggo rather than a attacking one in Campbell? . Who I thought had a good game and the normally excellent Joe Newell had a extremely poor game for his standards tbh . Said it before Midfields a problem . It was clear to see in the 2nd half .

He was dropped for a game against a team that finished miles behind the team we beat away the last game, that's how. It's very simple. Newell is streets ahead of Campbell in ability .

[Donegal Hibby]

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He was dropped for a game against a team that finished miles behind the team we beat away the last game, that's how. It's very simple. Newell is streets ahead of Campbell in ability .

You've stated that Campbell didn't impress in training as to the reason of him not playing today when you really don't know and it's simply speculation on your part tbh . He played in the game against Aberdeen which we won btw . Too different type midfielders who I'm not going to even compare as they have different attributes .Newell definitely is our best Midfielder though today's performance from him certainly wasn't anything to be bragging about in all honesty though i think we can let him off with it as he's been excellent so far this season though

[judas]

I think JC needs a move.

The lad appears to lack technical ability and pace. He looks cumbersome and leggy in midfield and I think we are better when he goes off and worse when he comes on.

I’ve seen it suggested that he is unfit. If that is the case though, why is he playing at all? We all want academy breakthroughs to succeed and my tolerance for such players - perhaps unfairly (on other players)
- is higher for that reason.

It’s a bit alerting when a midfielder looks bad in what I think is quite a poor Hibs midfield (I am counting Youan and Boyle as attackers / wingers when I say that).

[Paulie Walnuts]

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Sort of. Campbell was always going to do more running up top in the absence of Doidge. Nit saying it worked by any means but I could see the thinking. He was going to close down the opposition more and he dies know where the back of the net is.

I’m not sure playing someone up top just because they run about a lot is a smart move.

It made no sense at all to play him there imo.

[JohnM1875]

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I’m not sure playing someone up top just because they run about a lot is a smart move.

It made no sense at all to play him there imo.

Was definitely a weird one. Thought he was poor after coming on.

Do think there's a player in there somewhere, he's shown there is, but needs to show it more consistently.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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I think JC needs a move.

The lad appears to lack technical ability and pace. He looks cumbersome and leggy in midfield and I think we are better when he goes off and worse when he comes on.

I’ve seen it suggested that he is unfit. If that is the case though, why is he playing at all? We all want academy breakthroughs to succeed and my tolerance for such players - perhaps unfairly (on other players)
- is higher for that reason.

It’s a bit alerting when a midfielder looks bad in what I think is quite a poor Hibs midfield (I am counting Youan and Boyle as attackers / wingers when I say that).

I’m not sure he needs a move. He’s fine as a squad player here. I just don’t think he’s good enough to be starting regularly.

If he gets a move from Hibs it’ll be down the way to a Motherwell/St Mirren etc imo.

[Donegal Hibby]

After what was quite a good first half for us the 2nd half wasn't nearly as good , we gave the ball away far to easy I thought and considering Campbell didn't come on till about the 66 minute , the first 20 minutes in the 2nd half we were also poor in as well though!

[zitelli62]

Look let's give the laddie a break don't know if he reads hibs.net or not but if he does he must wonder why so many fans are against him look he's a hibs fan first and foremost do people actually think he comes on and think ill be crap today just to wind the fans up course he doesn't he comes on and does his best to a lot of people that's not good enough that's there opinion but let's give him a break he one of our own if he wasn't a lot of fans would have him tarred and feathered by now give the guy a break.

[pacorosssco]

[QUOTE=Stubbsy90+2;7469908]I’m not sure he needs a move. He’s fine as a squad player here. I just don’t think he’s good enough to be starting regularly.

If he gets a move from Hibs it’ll be down the way to a Motherwell/St Mirren etc imo.[/QUOTE

Agree he's no stand out and in 442 no starter

[Donegal Hibby]

Seems some fans always need some player to blame wither it be Campbell , Stevenson , Rocky , Hanlon ! Youan's got it too at one stage , Doidge another ? Anymore ? Miller maybe ? It will probably be someone else next week SAD REALLY WE NEED TO BLAME SOMEBODY EVERY WEEK 😞

[JohnM1875]

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Seems some fans always need some player to blame wither it be Campbell , Stevenson , Rocky , Hanlon ! Youan's got it too at one stage , Doidge another ? Anymore ? Miller maybe ? It will probably be someone else next week SAD REALLY WE NEED TO BLAME SOMEBODY EVERY WEEK 😞

Or maybe folk just criticise players after having a bad game? If that happens more than once maybe the player has had a few bad games? It's not always having it in for someone or having an agenda against a certain player.

It's a fan forum, player performances are going to be discussed and debated every single game. If not, what's the point in this forum? It's not a blame game, it's just folk voicing their opinion.

Some folk focus on the negative, some on the positive. It's just peoples nature, everyone is wired differently. I get each side of that pisses the other off, bed wetter vs happy clappers etc, but it's part of the fun of this place, as mental as it is.

[Donegal Hibby]

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Or maybe folk just criticise players after having a bad game? If that happens more than once maybe the player has had a few bad games? It's not always having it in for someone or having an agenda against a certain player.

It's a fan forum, player performances are going to be discussed and debated every single game. If not, what's the point in this forum? It's not a blame game, it's just folk voicing their opinion.

Some folk focus on the negative, some on the positive. It's just peoples nature, everyone is wired differently. I get each side of that pisses the other off, bed wetter vs happy clappers etc, but it's part of the fun of this place, as mental as it is.

Campbell didn't come on today till the 66 minute and yet he's had more criticism than players on for 90 minutes that were poor . Rocky got blamed for the 2nd goal when it was clear he wasn't responsible for the poor defending at the near post ! Sorry I don't buy into fans being fair on there criticism of players as we all have favourites and ones we don't . Newell was poor , Boyle was too though it's easier to blame others which is exactly what's going on !

[JohnM1875]

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Campbell didn't come on today till the 66 minute and yet he's had more criticism than players on for 90 minutes that were poor . Rocky got blamed for the 2nd goal when it was clear he wasn't responsible for the poor defending at the near post ! Sorry I don't buy into fans being fair on there criticism of players as we all have favourites and ones we don't . Newell was poor , Boyle was too though it's easier to blame others which is exactly what's going on !

Campbell basically played a third of the match so is absolutely open to criticism. I've already said why I think Rocky is at fault for the second goal so not going to go over old ground. Aye, the defending afterwards was bad as well, for sure, can't deny that. The manager even called it out.

It's fine to have favourites, but surely as adults you can say when one of your favourite players has a bad game? Stevenson is my favourite ever Hibs player. But I'll be the first to admit when he's had a poor game. I actually think this is a season too far for him as a starter.

Newell is another favourite of mine. Absolute stinker today. As bad a performance as I can remember. I think maybe being captain is a bit too much for him right now.

I just don't think everyone saying they thought Campbell was poor today is out to get him or don't like him. He was just pants when he came on.

[Daily Hibs]

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Or maybe folk just criticise players after having a bad game? If that happens more than once maybe the player has had a few bad games? It's not always having it in for someone or having an agenda against a certain player.

It's a fan forum, player performances are going to be discussed and debated every single game. If not, what's the point in this forum? It's not a blame game, it's just folk voicing their opinion.

Some folk focus on the negative, some on the positive. It's just peoples nature, everyone is wired differently. I get each side of that pisses the other off, bed wetter vs happy clappers etc, but it's part of the fun of this place, as mental as it is.

Well said.

It is a fans forum of varying opinions.

If he is a good player and plays well, he wont get criticised. Pretty simple really.

[Donegal Hibby]

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Campbell basically played a third of the match so is absolutely open to criticism. I've already said why I think Rocky is at fault for the second goal so not going to go over old ground. Aye, the defending afterwards was bad as well, for sure, can't deny that. The manager even called it out.

It's fine to have favourites, but surely as adults you can say when one of your favourite players has a bad game? Stevenson is my favourite ever Hibs player. But I'll be the first to admit when he's had a poor game. I actually think this is a season too far for him as a starter.

Newell is another favourite of mine. Absolute stinker today. As bad a performance as I can remember. I think maybe being captain is a bit too much for him right now.

I just don't think everyone saying they thought Campbell was poor today is out to get him or don't like him. He was just pants when he came on.

Campbell playing a third of the match and open to criticism is absolutely fair enough buddy though our star Midfielder playing for the full 90 ,giving the ball away , no covering , lack of creativity , poor set pieces warrants more criticism than Campbell is getting , let's not forget who's 23 and 30 here btw and the senior player and captain who was p**h against killie .

[Donegal Hibby]

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Well said.

It is a fans forum of varying opinions.

If he is a good player and plays well, he wont get criticised. Pretty simple really.

Yours is certainly not as it's normally totally negative on anything green and white!

[Daily Hibs]

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Yours is certainly not as it's normally totally negative on anything green and white!

Questioning not winning a trophy since 2016 with us having 10 trips to Hampden since then?

We have under acheived for years.

[J-C]

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Questioning not winning a trophy since 2016 with us having 10 trips to Hampden since then?

We have under acheived for years.

We've under achieved since the Famous Five era, that's around 70 years of it.

[greenlex]

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I’m not sure playing someone up top just because they run about a lot is a smart move.

It made no sense at all to play him there imo.

Plenty energy up there from him. It’s what the new manager obviously wanted at that moment of the game. He did fine at it. The manager even name checked him afterwards. Not sure we know best to be honest. Like I said I can see the merit in it.

[easty]

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Seems some fans always need some player to blame wither it be Campbell , Stevenson , Rocky , Hanlon ! Youan's got it too at one stage , Doidge another ? Anymore ? Miller maybe ? It will probably be someone else next week SAD REALLY WE NEED TO BLAME SOMEBODY EVERY WEEK 😞

We’d not need to blame anyone if we could hold on to a 2 goal lead without poor play costing us goals.

This is a very weird post given that you follow it up with a post laying into Joe Newell too.

[easty]

I don’t think Campbell deserves any negativity from the game to be honest. He was chucked on up top (he’s nae striker) and given very little to work with.

He tried to chase down everything, but was mostly doing it on his own. Up the other end multiple Killie players were running down everything our defence tried to do, and it was causing mistakes.

[superfurryhibby]

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Well said.

It is a fans forum of varying opinions.

If he is a good player and plays well, he wont get criticised. Pretty simple really.

Yes, a bit like posting on forums.

If you offer an opinion that’s got a degree of rationale behind it, you can sometimes engage in discussion.

If you only post when we lose, only post negativity with statements as opinions, you’re going to be noticed and get identified at very least as a sad miserable fud, or even worse, a Jambo.

I know which I’d rather be.

[Donegal Hibby]

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Questioning not winning a trophy since 2016 with us having 10 trips to Hampden since then?

We have under acheived for years.

Could you not say that about Aberdeen and hertz too ? Hertz are 60 years without winning league cup ! How's long since Aberdeen won the Scottish cup ? Reality is its getting harder for clubs to win the cups now as the old firm financially blow the rest of us a side .

Since 2016 there's been two non old firm clubs who have won the Scottish cup , us and st johnstone , the rest of the time it's been sevco once and Celtic 5 times . League cups been much the same with Celtic winning it 6 out of the last 8 years .

If following a team is just about winning cups for you then I'm afraid your following the wrong club . Try the old firm .

[Brightside]

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He was dropped for a game against a team that finished miles behind the team we beat away the last game, that's how. It's very simple. Newell is streets ahead of Campbell in ability .

He wasn’t dropped. He wouldn’t start in that 442. It wouldn’t make any sense. Not sure why you’re struggling with that.

[McD]

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Look let's give the laddie a break don't know if he reads hibs.net or not but if he does he must wonder why so many fans are against him look he's a hibs fan first and foremost do people actually think he comes on and think ill be crap today just to wind the fans up course he doesn't he comes on and does his best to a lot of people that's not good enough that's there opinion but let's give him a break he one of our own if he wasn't a lot of fans would have him tarred and feathered by now give the guy a break.

I don’t believe any player ever steps on a pitch thinking ‘I’ll be crap today’ for any reason.

That said, he’s there as a professional footballer. Whether he’s a Hibs fan or not, he deserves to be critiqued on that basis. There’s thousands of people attend Easter road who are also Hibs fans, but aren’t good enough to play (definitely me included), being one of our own shouldn’t shield anyone from honest appraisal (I don’t mean any of the over the top hyperbole that sometimes gets directed at players).

We can’t be in the stands, the pubs, on here or anywhere else saying it’s not good enough, need to be doing better, should be winning these matches, and in the same breath saying ‘go easy on xyz, he’s one of us’. If they’re not up to scratch in a given game, then they should be discussed as such. If they’re not delivering over weeks and months, the should be dropped. If it goes on longer, they should be replaced.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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Yes, a bit like posting on forums.

If you offer an opinion that’s got a degree of rationale behind it, you can sometimes engage in discussion.

If you only post when we lose, only post negativity with statements as opinions, you’re going to be noticed and get identified at very least as a sad miserable fud, or even worse, a Jambo.

I know which I’d rather be.

Everyone on here posts their opinion as a statement surely?

If someone posts Josh Campbell is a great player, that’s clearly their opinion, although that post is a statement.

I’m sure everyone could add ‘imo’ to the end of every sentence, but I didn’t think people needed things to be spelt out so much to them.

[B.H.F.C]

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He wasn’t dropped. He wouldn’t start in that 442. It wouldn’t make any sense. Not sure why you’re struggling with that.

He was in the starting lineup last week and was left out this week.

Whatever the reasons, that’s being dropped. Surely folk cannae be arguing against that, whatever the reasons.

[Donegal Hibby]

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We’d not need to blame anyone if we could hold on to a 2 goal lead without poor play costing us goals.

This is a very weird post given that you follow it up with a post laying into Joe Newell too.

If we hold onto the 2 goal lead nobody gets blamed . As to singling out certain individuals and blaming them like Rocky for the 2nd goal is ridiculous , as is blaming Campbell too . Me laying into Newell which I don't really want to do should be pointed out as folk are more forgiving of him having a bad game as he's one of our star players though doesn't get away from the fact he was awful yesterday too .