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    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Hibs View Post
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    This will now be Josh Campbell's 4th first team manager in 4 seasons.
    Same as most of the squad, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Hibs View Post
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    This will now be Josh Campbell's 4th first team manager in 4 seasons.
    Ryan Porteous will probably get through that many every season, given the club he chose to join from us.

    Not sure it really tells us anything.

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    Ryan Porteous will probably get through that many every season, given the club he chose to join from us.

    Not sure it really tells us anything.
    Watford are a basket case of a club.

    I think we have to realise that its maybe not the managers fault, its the same players that are getting managers sacked, we maybe have to realise that these players aren't good enough for the size of our club.

    I'd be surprised if Josh Campbell is a long term option for us but you never know. He's another player that goes missing in derbies.

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    Well he said he is just about the worst passer of the ball in the squad. Thats utter poppycock. You don't need a counter argument you just need eyes.
    I agree about him being about the worst passer of a ball, along with Jeggo they are not that good at one of the basic skills of any footballer. Of course his work rate is probably up there with the best, and he has scored a few goals which is another plus. I don't think he can possibly play in a 4 man midfield, Monty will need to find a system different to a 4 if he wants him and the team to flourish with him in it.In my opinion our midfield has been the main problem for years, Monty has a huge problem if he has to play any permutations of what's available at the moment.

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    If Campbell had top stats for the club, he'd not be here but playing at a higher level, there's a reason a good few players at our club are here, they all have a few faults and non are the complete package. We'll only get better players when we start paying them 2-3x what we do right now.

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    OK....cue the personal insult. You clearly don't bother watching the games either now. Honestly just go and watch some of the games and look at all his completed passes - instead of looking at just his mistakes. Every single player makes mistakes. He is not even close to being the worse passer in the squad. Thats just wrong.
    The thing about JCs mistakes/poor passes is that a lot have been costly. He should be learning from those mistakes I’d have thought. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. I like his energy and workrate and think he’s much more valuable to the team playing further forward. But I just feel he’s not the most intelligent of players - far too many wrong choices. Hopefully the new management team can sort some of that as he does have good physical attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    I agree about him being about the worst passer of a ball, along with Jeggo they are not that good at one of the basic skills of any footballer. Of course his work rate is probably up there with the best, and he has scored a few goals which is another plus. I don't think he can possibly play in a 4 man midfield, Monty will need to find a system different to a 4 if he wants him and the team to flourish with him in it.In my opinion our midfield has been the main problem for years, Monty has a huge problem if he has to play any permutations of what's available at the moment.
    Jeggo’s passing has been far better in the past few games. No doubt about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    OK....cue the personal insult. You clearly don't bother watching the games either now. Honestly just go and watch some of the games and look at all his completed passes - instead of looking at just his mistakes. Every single player makes mistakes. He is not even close to being the worse passer in the squad. Thats just wrong.
    I watch all our games. He is poor at passing and controlling a football. His performance Vs St Mirren was absolutely woeful.

    He does things well, but not those things.

    Bizarre you feel the need to pretend he is some complete player. It's fine to see a players weaknesses, even if you like them.

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    I watch all our games. He is poor at passing and controlling a football. His performance Vs St Mirren was absolutely woeful.

    He does things well, but not those things.

    Bizarre you feel the need to pretend he is some complete player. It's fine to see a players weaknesses, even if you like them.
    I disagree with you and agree with the posters point,for some reason if Campbell makes a miss pass that will be what is remembered,I also watch every hibs game. If I was critical of Campbell it would be positioning at times lets him down. I also think he tries to take on too much to cover for players not tracking their man.
    I’ve seen some sublime passes by Campbell good through balls as well, it’s just lies saying he doesn’t have that in his locker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    I watch all our games. He is poor at passing and controlling a football. His performance Vs St Mirren was absolutely woeful.

    He does things well, but not those things.

    Bizarre you feel the need to pretend he is some complete player. It's fine to see a players weaknesses, even if you like them.
    Jeez Ive even pointed out his faults. But worst passer in the squad is just daft. His passing v St Mirren was poor no doubt - circa 36% I think. But there was plenty games in the 65% plus pass completion the season before. Much more of his passing is him trying to create chances also so expectation of success of those passes is much less. He is a fine squad player who will continue to get plenty game time this season. LJ even played him when he was clearly injured - so why do that if he's as poor as you seem to think?

    He's got plenty faults but he works harder, and puts in more mileage that probably anyone else on the pitch, and that is hugely important in the modern game.

    He'll have a good game at the weekend and there will be a thread to get him on a new contract!

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    I think Josh Campbell gives us something different than our other midfielders , he's certainly more of a goal threat and his workrate and energy levels certainly aren't lacking either.

    I was looking back at some of the goals he got and they certainly helped get us some crucial points tbf , late winner st Johnstone ( 2 extra points ) . Late equaliser against Huns ( another point ) , 2 against Aberdeen in 3-1 game ( 2 extra points ) .

    Not saying he should play every week though very useful player to have . Still think a pairing of Newell and JDH is probably the one that least works though that's just my opinion for what it's worth and with the way JDH injuries are going we need Campbell.

    Will be interesting to see who the manager picks for his favoured 4-4-2 formation . Read this article a wee while ago.
    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...s-plan-4334744

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    I like Josh but he doesn't seem fully fit this season. Looks like he's carrying a knock. For whatever reason he's been off it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    I like Josh but he doesn't seem fully fit this season. Looks like he's carrying a knock. For whatever reason he's been off it.
    Agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Jeez Ive even pointed out his faults. But worst passer in the squad is just daft. His passing v St Mirren was poor no doubt - circa 36% I think. But there was plenty games in the 65% plus pass completion the season before. Much more of his passing is him trying to create chances also so expectation of success of those passes is much less. He is a fine squad player who will continue to get plenty game time this season. LJ even played him when he was clearly injured - so why do that if he's as poor as you seem to think?

    He's got plenty faults but he works harder, and puts in more mileage that probably anyone else on the pitch, and that is hugely important in the modern game.

    He'll have a good game at the weekend and there will be a thread to get him on a new contract!
    65% still isn’t good, it means more than 1 in 3 of his passes fail to find a teammate.

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    65% still isn’t good, it means more than 1 in 3 of his passes fail to find a teammate.
    Thats totally fine for an attacking mid. its had him in the top 25%. Clearly CBs and DMs are hitting 80 to 90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightside View Post
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    Thats totally fine for an attacking mid. its had him in the top 25%. Clearly CBs and DMs are hitting 80 to 90.
    It would be good, if he ever actually created anything. Scott Allan is someone I'd be fine with having 65% pass success. Cant think of Campbell splitting many defenses.

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    It would be good, if he ever actually created anything. Scott Allan is someone I'd be fine with having 65% pass success. Cant think of Campbell splitting many defenses.
    Josh Campbell isn't that sort of Midfielder and in saying that neither is the rest of them . Hopefully Levitt can provide some creativity when we get him back . Certainly wouldn't be relying on JDH for it that's for sure .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Josh Campbell isn't that sort of Midfielder and in saying that neither is the rest of them . Hopefully Levitt can provide some creativity when we get him back . Certainly wouldn't be relying on JDH for it that's for sure .
    You cant have that poor a pass success then be not that type of player. He is just a poor passer and needs to improve on it.

    Newell creates more and keeps it better than Josh. And so far this season, scores more too.

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    You cant have that poor a pass success then be not that type of player. He is just a poor passer and needs to improve on it.

    Newell creates more and keeps it better than Josh. And so far this season, scores more too.
    I agree with Newell is better at keeping possession and as to creating more he should as he takes most of the set pieces and corners though the defense splitting passes you can't recall Campbell doing , I think all our Midfielders lack that skill , at least consistently they do .

    Josh gives you 100%, workrate and great energy and gets into good goalscoring positions . I'd still fancy him to finish with more goals than our other midfielders . He's also our most valuable Midfielder too .

    We had this conversation before I think about Newell and Campbell who are to totally different types of Midfielders and it's unfair to compare both with each other . There's more similarities between. JDH and Newell than Campbell and Newell imo . Probably the reason why I think they are our worst Midfield pairing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    I agree with Newell is better at keeping possession and as to creating more he should as he takes most of the set pieces and corners though the defense splitting passes you can't recall Campbell doing , I think all our Midfielders lack that skill , at least consistently they do .

    Josh gives you 100%, workrate and great energy and gets into good goalscoring positions . I'd still fancy him to finish with more goals than our other midfielders . He's also our most valuable Midfielder too .

    We had this conversation before I think about Newell and Campbell who are to totally different types of Midfielders and it's unfair to compare both with each other . There's more similarities between. JDH and Newell than Campbell and Newell imo . Probably the reason why I think they are our worst Midfield pairing.
    He is more "valuable" because he is young. Joe is twice the footballer and works just as hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    He is more "valuable" because he is young. Joe is twice the footballer and works just as hard.
    What does that say about the state of our squad if Josh Campbell is the most valuable midfielder.

    He's not even good enough for us let alone being our most valuable midfielder.

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    He is more "valuable" because he is young. Joe is twice the footballer and works just as hard.
    Campbell works just as hard and isn't just valuable because he's young otherwise players like Henderson, kenneh and JDH would also be just as valuable but there not . It's because he's a goalscoring midfielder who is a good player with potential to get better. Again Newell and Campbell are different though both good at what they do . In Campbell's case he will chip in with more goals than the rest of our midfield players.
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    Josh Campbell a player who gives his all everytime he plays for us and a player who will get better with age. Josh has scored some vital goals for the club and doesnt get the praise he deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Hibs View Post
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    What does that say about the state of our squad if Josh Campbell is the most valuable midfielder.

    He's not even good enough for us let alone being our most valuable midfielder.
    Not a whole lot because it's not based purely on ability. Stevie wonder could see Joe Newell is by far out best midfielder.

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    You cant have that poor a pass success then be not that type of player. He is just a poor passer and needs to improve on it.

    Newell creates more and keeps it better than Josh. And so far this season, scores more too.
    What’s Newells stats in comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES View Post
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    Not a whole lot because it's not based purely on ability. Stevie wonder could see Joe Newell is by far out best midfielder.
    I think that depends on what "best" means to the onlooker.

    Ask people who Hibs best player is and you'll get several different answers.

    I like Newell. He's the closest we've got to a player who puts his foot on the ball and controls games, but the work Jeggo, for example, puts in is equally as important.
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    100% agree. Mo farah can run for miles & so can Usain Bolt they both however are also colin nish at football like Campbell.

    If we are to play a 4-4-2 it's Levitt and Newell in the middle all day for me.
    Just looked at this thread.

    Dunno if you know but Usain Bolt actually played a few games for the Mariners a few years ago when they were a basket case.

    Colin Nish was a superstar compared to Bolt as far as footballing ability goes.

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    Not a whole lot because it's not based purely on ability. Stevie wonder could see Joe Newell is by far out best midfielder.
    Your doing Campbell a injustice there his ability is getting into goalscoring positions which he does regularly and he workrate and energy is right up there with any midfielder we have .

    Again your trying to compare two totally different types of Midfielders . Why not try and compare Jeggo and Campbell or JDH with any ?. JDH rarely seems to get mentioned btw .

    Campbell's value is because of numerous factors including his ability which is why it was rumoured Italian clubs were watching him and none of our other midfielders .

    No ability ? Yeah right ��.
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    I think that depends on what "best" means to the onlooker.

    Ask people who Hibs best player is and you'll get several different answers.

    I like Newell. He's the closest we've got to a player who puts his foot on the ball and controls games, but the work Jeggo, for example, puts in is equally as important.
    Jeggo could be replaced far easier than Newell could.

    For me, Newell starts for every team outside Rangers and Celtc in this league. Jeggo, not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Your doing Campbell a injustice there his ability is getting into goalscoring positions which he does regularly and he workrate and energy is right up there with any midfielder we have .

    Again your trying to compare two totally different types of Midfielders . Why not try and compare Jeggo and Campbell or JDH with any ?. JDH rarely seems to get mentioned btw .

    Campbell's value is because of numerous factors including his ability which is why it was rumoured Italian clubs were watching him and none of our other midfielders .

    No ability ? Yeah right ��.
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    Workrate and energy is not enough if he's not scoring. His general play is poor.

    I'm comparing him to our best midfielder. That's all.

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