Josh Campbell

***Hibbyradge*** · 12-09-2023 09:58 AM

Having just watched the excellent, and intelligent, Get the Edge interview, (see the Videos thread), I think we're going to see a lot of Josh Campbell this season.

I think he's exactly the type of player NM wants in his teams, high energy, great fitness and total commitment, and I think Josh will come on in leaps and bounds.

I don't remember seeing NM as a player, but from his remarks, Josh and him sound like peas in a pod.

**S4uzee** · 12-09-2023 10:40 AM

If Montgomery plays 4-4-2, it would be criminal to have Campbell as one of the two in CM. If we want to improve, having Campbell as a starter won’t see us do that

**CowgateHarp1875** · 12-09-2023 10:47 AM

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If Montgomery plays 4-4-2, it would be criminal to have Campbell as one of the two in CM. If we want to improve, having Campbell as a starter won’t see us do that

100% agree. Mo farah can run for miles & so can Usain Bolt they both however are also colin nish at football like Campbell.

If we are to play a 4-4-2 it's Levitt and Newell in the middle all day for me.

**lyonhibs** · 12-09-2023 10:48 AM

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If Montgomery plays 4-4-2, it would be criminal to have Campbell as one of the two in CM. If we want to improve, having Campbell as a starter won’t see us do that

Absolutely. I'd run for miles and miles in a Hibs strip, wouldn't make up for my glaring technical deficencies with a ball at my feet - the same applies to Campbell (until we play Aberdeen, he can start then)

***blackpoolhibs*** · 12-09-2023 10:50 AM

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If Montgomery plays 4-4-2, it would be criminal to have Campbell as one of the two in CM. If we want to improve, having Campbell as a starter won’t see us do that

In a 4-4-2, the middle midfielders need to be able to control the ball well and pass the ball well, Campbell at the moment does neither.

We'd be weak in midfield if he was one of a 4 in my opinion.

***JimBHibees*** · 12-09-2023 10:50 AM

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Having just watched the excellent, and intelligent, Get the Edge interview, (see the Videos thread), I think we're going to see a lot of Josh Campbell this season.

I think he's exactly the type of player NM wants in his teams, high energy, great fitness and total commitment, and I think Josh will come on in leaps and bounds.

I don't remember seeing NM as a player, but from his remarks, Josh and him sound like peas in a pod.

Montgomery was a box to box grafter.

***JimBHibees*** · 12-09-2023 10:53 AM

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100% agree. Mo farah can run for miles & so can Usain Bolt they both however are also colin nish at football like Campbell.

If we are to play a 4-4-2 it's Levitt and Newell in the middle all day for me.

Don't really disagree re Josh better suited not to two in the middle however he is a regular top league performer and is a good player for us. Harsh as

**CowgateHarp1875** · 12-09-2023 10:56 AM

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Don't really disagree re Josh better suited not to two in the middle however he is a regular top league performer and is a good player for us. Harsh as

Each to their own mate. I just think we have players who are better technically in the middle than him and we should use them.

***BILLYHIBS*** · 12-09-2023 10:58 AM

Has looked off it this season so far but has still chipped in with 3:9 goals

Need to put a line through his poor performance versus St Mirren and put it down to carrying an injury

Everyone starts with a clean slate and hopefully Monty can get him back on track firing on all cylinders

Still think there is a player in there

**WeeRussell** · 12-09-2023 11:01 AM

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Each to their own mate. I just think we have players who are better technically in the middle than him and we should use them.

I agree with this post but not your earlier one saying Campbell is pish at football.

***wookie70*** · 12-09-2023 11:03 AM

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Each to their own mate. I just think we have players who are better technically in the middle than him and we should use them.

We do but they don't score many or create that many either. It all depends on how Montgomery wants to set up and Josh will be an important part of the squad whatever formation and style if chosen purely for his energy, gola involvements and commitment

**Tambo** · 12-09-2023 11:09 AM

Newell and Levitt did put in an excellent performance together vs Luzern as a two, I do understand it was a bigger occasion than say Ross county at home for an example.

***Hiber-nation*** · 12-09-2023 11:12 AM

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I don't remember seeing NM as a player, but from his remarks, Josh and him sound like peas in a pod.

Nah, Monty scored 9 goals in 12 seasons. Midfield grafter, sort of upgrade on Brian Hamilton type. Not a goalscorer.

A lot of work to be done on Josh, touch and speed of moving the ball not good enough yet.

**Skol** · 12-09-2023 11:13 AM

The modern day Brian Hamilton ?

**Donegal Hibby** · 12-09-2023 11:19 AM

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If Montgomery plays 4-4-2, it would be criminal to have Campbell as one of the two in CM. If we want to improve, having Campbell as a starter won’t see us do that

Disagree tbh , there's certain games I'd certainly play Campbell in a 4-4-2 in , like at home against a team sitting in against us . Josh Campbell is still our best chance of a goal from Midfield. I certainly have him in before JDH tbh .

***Hibbyradge*** · 12-09-2023 11:21 AM

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Nah, Monty scored 9 goals in 12 seasons. Midfield grafter, sort of upgrade on Brian Hamilton type. Not a goalscorer.

A lot of work to be done on Josh, touch and speed of moving the ball not good enough yet.

I meant the work ethic and commitment. Neither NM or Josh are the most technically skillled of players, but both will pull up trees for you.

That's a valuable asset.

***easty*** · 12-09-2023 11:24 AM

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Disagree tbh , there's certain games I'd certainly play Campbell in a 4-4-2 in , like at home against a team sitting in against us . Josh Campbell is still our best chance of a goal from Midfield. I certainly have him in before JDH tbh .

Not for me, at all.

When we’re up against a team sitting in, I’m looking for midfielders to create something. Campbell never creates anything.

I’d use Campbell against Rangers and Celtc. He’s a worker, great engine.

***Smartie*** · 12-09-2023 11:26 AM

If we’re to play 442 from the start of games and do it justice, we’re going to need one, possibly 2 new central midfielders.

We’ll get murdered trying that with our current crop.

It may be that NM will want to play that way eventually but if he’s going to last long enough to get his own players in then he’s going to have to be fairly pragmatic - and realise it’s not happening straight away.

***The Modfather*** · 12-09-2023 11:36 AM

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If we’re to play 442 from the start of games and do it justice, we’re going to need one, possibly 2 new central midfielders.

We’ll get murdered trying that with our current crop.

It may be that NM will want to play that way eventually but if he’s going to last long enough to get his own players in then he’s going to have to be fairly pragmatic - and realise it’s not happening straight away.

That’s how I see it too. For this season, with the players he has it’s 451/433. Jeggo, Newell & Levitt furthest forward IMO. Boyle, Youan & Vente. We also have two defensive, and limited, full backs in Stevenson & Miller who would likely imbalance a 442 as well IMO.

***bingo70*** · 12-09-2023 11:40 AM

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If Montgomery plays 4-4-2, it would be criminal to have Campbell as one of the two in CM. If we want to improve, having Campbell as a starter won’t see us do that

I don’t think Campbell is good enough to be a central midfielder. I think all his best work has been playing in an advanced role and got into dangerous positions well.

IMO Campbell is better suited to playing as a number 10 off another front man, if he’s to make it under NM it’ll be in that position I think.

**CowgateHarp1875** · 12-09-2023 11:43 AM

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I agree with this post but not your earlier one saying Campbell is pish at football.

That's the beauty of us all having our own opinions mate 👍

**CowgateHarp1875** · 12-09-2023 11:47 AM

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We do but they don't score many or create that many either. It all depends on how Montgomery wants to set up and Josh will be an important part of the squad whatever formation and style if chosen purely for his energy, gola involvements and commitment

If we're playing with two strikers and Youan and Boyle down the wings I'm not really fussed about our centre mids goal contributions to be honest. That's more than enough fire power to destroy most teams in this league. If it is to be 2 in the middle I want my two to be able to play make and create opportunities for our attackers.

It'll be interesting to see how Montgomery has us lined up on Saturday.

**Shrekko** · 12-09-2023 11:47 AM

I was previously a big defender of Campbell and really thought he was coming on to a game last season which delighted me. Unfortunately, I’m now extremely frustrated with his performances, and I don’t think he offers anywhere near as much as he should be especially when the going is tough.

I don’t expect all midfielders to be able to take the game by the scruff of the neck but I like to see guys show the sort of bravery that Jeggo has done in the last couple of weeks and try and do what they can to make an impact. To me JC is doing a lot of running but not really getting close to anyone and his use of the ball is pretty conservative considering he does have the ability to ping the ball around when things are going well. Could also do with a little less theatrics and arm waving.

***RyeSloan*** · 12-09-2023 11:54 AM

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I was previously a big defender of Campbell and really thought he was coming on to a game last season which delighted me. Unfortunately, I’m now extremely frustrated with his performances, and I don’t think he offers anywhere near as much as he should be especially when the going is tough.

I don’t expect all midfielders to be able to take the game by the scruff of the neck but I like to see guys show the sort of bravery that Jeggo has done in the last couple of weeks and try and do what they can to make an impact. To me JC is doing a lot of running but not really getting close to anyone and his use of the ball is pretty conservative considering he does have the ability to ping the ball around when things are going well. Could also do with a little less theatrics and arm waving.

Different managers can get different things from players, that’s the beauty of management.

Josh really seems to divide opinion at the best of times but I think those writing him off are doing him a bit of a disservice.

The OP is spot on in my opinion, I think Josh has a number of attributes that will be right up NM’s street and it will be interesting to see if and how he uses him over the season.

**Centre Hawf** · 12-09-2023 11:58 AM

He was one of our biggest goal threats last season and has shown at times he still is this season, I would back him to hit double digits again in all comps if he plays enough. He's a good player with some limitations (he's not as technical as Newell and Levitt) but he can press and play in the final third like they two can. Delighted to have him as an option at the club.

**Shrekko** · 12-09-2023 12:10 PM

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Different managers can get different things from players, that’s the beauty of management.

Josh really seems to divide opinion at the best of times but I think those writing him off are doing him a bit of a disservice.

The OP is spot on in my opinion, I think Josh has a number of attributes that will be right up NM’s street and it will be interesting to see if and how he uses him over the season.

I certainly wasn't writing him off as I also believe he has a lot of ability and many potential attributes. Just think he has had a longish run of not showing enough if what he has.

**A Hi-Bee** · 12-09-2023 12:11 PM

I is very sure that our new manager will get the best out of all our players, the ones that cannot reach what he wants in performance will move on, simples.

**theonlywayisup** · 12-09-2023 12:20 PM

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I was previously a big defender of Campbell and really thought he was coming on to a game last season which delighted me. Unfortunately, I’m now extremely frustrated with his performances, and I don’t think he offers anywhere near as much as he should be especially when the going is tough.

I don’t expect all midfielders to be able to take the game by the scruff of the neck but I like to see guys show the sort of bravery that Jeggo has done in the last couple of weeks and try and do what they can to make an impact. To me JC is doing a lot of running but not really getting close to anyone and his use of the ball is pretty conservative considering he does have the ability to ping the ball around when things are going well. Could also do with a little less theatrics and arm waving.

IMO Josh looks knackered from the very first few minutes after kick-off. I'm not fully convinced that he's actually 100% fit, but is being played because we've very few alternatives. As has been mentioned before, we don't have that many options in midfield and he's in a minority of one when it comes to goal threat. I'd keep him out of the team until he's back to full fitness, as without his energy he's not really contributing.

Good player IMO.