(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[neil7908]

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Trump has just been hit with a RICO charge from the state of Georgia which carries a mandatory 5 year prison sentence with no option of suspension or parole. Will be interesting to see how he tries to squirm his way out of this one.My bet would be more unhinged rants on social media over communist judges and juries or some nonsense.

I was initially very sceptical if he would ever see the inside of a jail cell but given the sheer volume and severity of the numerous cases against him, I think it's almost certain he will spend the rest of his life in prison (based also on his age of course).

The concern here is what happens then? He's already gone a pretty long way to destroying anything left of American democracy and decency. But the forces he's unleashed aren't going away. I actually fear what comes after him. That's not to suggest for a second that he shouldn't be prosecuted, more that Trumpism as a insane hard right philosophy has set root in America. And the next person to pick up the mantle might be smarter and even more ruthless than him.

[DaveF]

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Trump has just been hit with a RICO charge from the state of Georgia which carries a mandatory 5 year prison sentence with no option of suspension or parole. Will be interesting to see how he tries to squirm his way out of this one.My bet would be more unhinged rants on social media over communist judges and juries or some nonsense.

It usually starts with lots of upper case rants when pressing buttons on his keyboard. What a mess the US is in.

[Kato]

Does it really matter what happens to Trump? There will still be the billionaires pushing a far-right agenda, Mercer, Murdoch, the various hedge funders - their greed is insatiable and given their power perhaps unstoppable. They choose wilful idiots like Trump and "Boris" as the absolute guff they spout means no one looks at them.

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[Caversham Green]

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Even if he is prosecuted, there is no law in the US preventing him from campaigning for presidency from his jail cell. It's completely insane. But in the US, you're not allowed to vote behind bars. But you're allowed to vote for somebody who is behind bars.

That's also true in the UK I believe - Bobby Sands became an MP while he was in prison.

[Ozyhibby]

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That's also true in the UK I believe - Bobby Sands became an MP while he was in prison.

I wouldn’t worry too much, he isn’t going to win from jail. It’s hard to see a path for him to win at all looking at the electoral college.


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[McD]

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That's also true in the UK I believe - Bobby Sands became an MP while he was in prison.

I think laws were passed just after that to prevent anyone in prison standing for election

[Ozyhibby]

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I think laws were passed just after that to prevent anyone in prison standing for election

That will be why they keep arresting former SNP leaders.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

THIS is the sort of utter morons Trump appeals to https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...c1109ee9&ei=58

[Ozyhibby]

I’m beginning to think he’ll pull out the running. His legal troubles are going to last the entire length of the campaign and more and more, he is going to be told he can’t just keep talking nonsense without landing in jail. And what is a Trump speech if it isn’t complete nonsense. He won’t be able to open his mouth without incriminating himself.


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[Lendo]

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I’m beginning to think he’ll pull out the running. His legal troubles are going to last the entire length of the campaign and more and more, he is going to be told he can’t just keep talking nonsense without landing in jail. And what is a Trump speech if it isn’t complete nonsense. He won’t be able to open his mouth without incriminating himself. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Biden is rightfully staying quiet on this and letting the Justice Department do their job. I do wonder if he’ll offer him a pardon (on the Federal charges) if found guilty on the basis he drops out of the running, maybe politics as a whole. Very much doubt this but could be happen.

[Ozyhibby]

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Biden is rightfully staying quiet on this and letting the Justice Department do their job. I do wonder if he’ll offer him a pardon (on the Federal charges) if found guilty on the basis he drops out of the running, maybe politics as a whole. Very much doubt this but could be happen.

Zero chance this happens because it would look like admitting defeat to Trump. Also Trump could never be trusted to keep his end of the deal. And also because it’s the wrong thing to do and Biden would never be forgiven by democrats.


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[McD]

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Zero chance this happens because it would look like admitting defeat to Trump. Also Trump could never be trusted to keep his end of the deal. And also because it’s the wrong thing to do and Biden would never be forgiven by democrats.


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Yep, Trump would be crowing from the rooftops that Biden (and by extension the democrats) had capitulated to him

[BroxburnHibee]

I've listened to podcasts detailing the indictments in full and its unbelievable!!!

Beggars belief how supposedly intelligent people still continue to back this guy. He's basically a cult leader so I can understand where his support comes from but its all the republican party who continue to back him that baffles me.

[lapsedhibee]

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I've listened to podcasts detailing the indictments in full and its unbelievable!!!

Beggars belief how supposedly intelligent people still continue to back this guy. He's basically a cult leader so I can understand where his support comes from but its all the republican party who continue to back him that baffles me.

Exact same here, when long after it became clear he was a wrong 'un, virtually the whole Tory party continued to publicly back Johnson. "Winner."

[grunt]

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Beggars belief how supposedly intelligent people still continue to back this guy. He's basically a cult leader so I can understand where his support comes from but its all the republican party who continue to back him that baffles me.

I have a friend who moved to the US in the 70s. I always thought of him as being highly intelligent. He's a Trump supporter. I can hardly talk to him these days, and certainly not about politics.

[Smartie]

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I've listened to podcasts detailing the indictments in full and its unbelievable!!!

Beggars belief how supposedly intelligent people still continue to back this guy. He's basically a cult leader so I can understand where his support comes from but its all the republican party who continue to back him that baffles me.

It always brings home to me how shallow and materialistic people are.

The fear of being even just a little bit poorer allows folk to tolerate all sorts of stuff that should be unthinkable.

I'm not mad on the extreme ends of the left/right spectrum but I have respect for reasonable people and politicians who I just happen to be on the other side to on various issues (my standpoint can vary from left to right wing depending on the subject). What I just don't get is how the aversion to having to pay a higher tax rate (or to have to cut public spending if you're that way inclined) can suddenly make you tolerate the likes of Johnson's wanton lawbreaking all over the shop, Trump's blatant disregard for democracy and the American constitution or arguably Tony Blair and the wars he has on his conscience.

[lapsedhibee]

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It always brings home to me how shallow and materialistic people are.

What I just don't get is how the aversion to having to pay a higher tax rate ... can suddenly make you tolerate the likes of Johnson's wanton lawbreaking all over the shop, Trump's blatant disregard for democracy and the American constitution

It would be good if the MSM treated the 'all taxation is theft' brigade as the extremists they are. MSM's quick enough to brand the 'all property is theft' lot as wild-eyed terrorists, but roll out the Tufton St fanatics on Politics Live, Newsnight and the rest as if they're normal human beings.

[cabbageandribs1875]

i listened to a GOP candidate Chris Christie this morning on CNN, former Governer of New Jersey, https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...917&ajaxhist=0 i thought he talked very well, decent and you would think there's still 'normal' Republicans that would vote for him instead of that utter lunatic Trump, he would probably get some Dems voting for him as well i would think or maybe he's just not nasty enough for the majority of Trumps groupies.

[grunt]

Ok. Not Trump, but Trump's party.

https://t.co/6pGj4N8O5u

A guy in North Carolina believes that Beyoncé is "satanic," that the 1969 moon landing may have been fake and that there's a ruling class of secretive reptiles.

This guy is Mark Robinson, the leading GOP candidate to be the state's next governor.

[cabbageandribs1875]

the big man mountain self reported at 215lbs


https://thespun.com/nfl/everyone-sai...-were-released

[Stairway 2 7]

Looks a creep in him mugshot

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...anada-66605845

[Ozyhibby]

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the big man mountain self reported at 215lbs


https://thespun.com/nfl/everyone-sai...-were-released

215lbs is hilarious. He’d need a build like Stephen merchant to be that weight for his height.


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[Pretty Boy]

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the big man mountain self reported at 215lbs


https://thespun.com/nfl/everyone-sai...-were-released

I was just laughing at that as well. One of his legs must weight about 215lbs.

What a vain *******.

[lapsedhibee]

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215lbs is hilarious. He’d need a build like Stephen merchant to be that weight for his height.

The amount of hot air in him will lift him off the scales a bit, so I reckon he's telling the truth.

[Bostonhibby]

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the big man mountain self reported at 215lbs


https://thespun.com/nfl/everyone-sai...-were-released

I think it's the concrete and scaffolding that holds his "quiff" in place that weighs 215lb.

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[Just Alf]

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Looks a creep in him mugshot

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...anada-66605845

I can just see the photoshopper's having fun with that... red eyes will be the 1st lol

[nonshinyfinish]

Is the weight that unlikely? Maybe I don't have a good grasp of the likely weight of a portly gentleman, but 215 lbs is about 100 kg, and Trump being 100 kg of tub doesn't seem all that unlikely to me. The NFL quarterback comparison doesn't seem relevant as they are presumably 100 kg of muscle (making them technically overweight for their height in BMI terms – normal weight metrics don't really make sense for those kind of athletes).

Am I miles off here? What weight do you think he really is?

[lapsedhibee]

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What weight do you think he really is?

215 lbs, but some of those are alternative pounds.

[Ozyhibby]

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Is the weight that unlikely? Maybe I don't have a good grasp of the likely weight of a portly gentleman, but 215 lbs is about 100 kg, and Trump being 100 kg of tub doesn't seem all that unlikely to me. The NFL quarterback comparison doesn't seem relevant as they are presumably 100 kg of muscle (making them technically overweight for their height in BMI terms – normal weight metrics don't really make sense for those kind of athletes).

Am I miles off here? What weight do you think he really is?

Trump is 6’3’ . No way he is just 100kg.


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[Keith_M]

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Is the weight that unlikely? Maybe I don't have a good grasp of the likely weight of a portly gentleman, but 215 lbs is about 100 kg, and Trump being 100 kg of tub doesn't seem all that unlikely to me. The NFL quarterback comparison doesn't seem relevant as they are presumably 100 kg of muscle (making them technically overweight for their height in BMI terms – normal weight metrics don't really make sense for those kind of athletes).

Am I miles off here? What weight do you think he really is?

If it's any help

He's 1.90 m and claims to weigh 97 kilos.

I'm 1.82m and weigh 85 kilos... and I look about half his size.