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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    I don't think there could be any other decision.

    This is just so sad and I'll never be able to get my head round why anybody would do this.
    The impact statements from the families were horrendous. There are so many victims in a case like this. The impact on the treatment of other children, marriages destroyed, people turning to alcohol, suicidal thoughts, distrust of medical professionals, teachers etc etc.

    For me it's not just the why but the how. I feel bad if I shout at my own kids, I get up to check them about 10 times a night if they are ill. I'll never understand how anyone can inflict pain on a child and ignore their struggling, crying and other indicators of distress and pain, she must have a lack of empathy bordering on psychopathic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    The impact statements from the families were horrendous. There are so many victims in a case like this. The impact on the treatment of other children, marriages destroyed, people turning to alcohol, suicidal thoughts, distrust of medical professionals, teachers etc etc.

    For me it's not just the why but the how. I feel bad if I shout at my own kids, I get up to check them about 10 times a night if they are ill. I'll never understand how anyone can inflict pain on a child and ignore their struggling, crying and other indicators of distress and pain, she must have a lack of empathy bordering on psychopathic.
    Is one of the "must have" elements of a psychopathic diagnosis a complete lack of empathy? The cooler headed psychopath observes emotions in others and learns how to manipulate people (ie sociopathy) depending their emotional state. Others just get off on observing.

    The shrinks have some job on their hands, on all sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Is one of the "must have" elements of a psychopathic diagnosis a complete lack of empathy? The cooler headed psychopath observes emotions in others and learns how to manipulate people (ie sociopathy) depending their emotional state. Others just get off on observing.

    The shrinks have some job on their hands, on all sides.

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    Which is why her missing the victim impact statements is not that big a deal. They would make no difference to her. She would not be able to understand what was being said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Which is why her missing the victim impact statements is not that big a deal. They would make no difference to her. She would not be able to understand what was being said.


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    I've not read that much but the notes she left seemed to be all about her. Would speak volumes.

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    doubt they will ever find out just how many died that she had a part in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    The impact statements from the families were horrendous. There are so many victims in a case like this. The impact on the treatment of other children, marriages destroyed, people turning to alcohol, suicidal thoughts, distrust of medical professionals, teachers etc etc.

    For me it's not just the why but the how. I feel bad if I shout at my own kids, I get up to check them about 10 times a night if they are ill. I'll never understand how anyone can inflict pain on a child and ignore their struggling, crying and other indicators of distress and pain, she must have a lack of empathy bordering on psychopathic.

    I'm with you on that one, PB. My kids are all grown up now but that pretty much describes my relationship with my kids when they were young.

    I'm now a soppy old guy that just loves kids, especially my many nieces and nephews, so I'll never understand either.

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