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    Yes, that’s what’s holding Scotland back just now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Westminster moving the goalposts has nothing to do with it though eh?
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    Westminster moving the goalposts has nothing to do with it though eh?
    Especially as the Scottish scheme was following what was set out in UK Gov's White paper right at the start.
    Not going into it again but it was all originally agreed with England having an opt out for glass if it wanted.

    It's funny how right at the last minute with Scotland about to introduce a deposit scheme, Wales well down the road towards it, even Northern Ireland were making progress, however Westminster/England are hardly out the starting blocks.... this was supposed to be part of their 'Day Job' that everyone goes on about, I wonder what they were up to instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Alf View Post
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    Especially as the Scottish scheme was following what was set out in UK Gov's White paper right at the start.
    Not going into it again but it was all originally agreed with England having an opt out for glass if it wanted.

    It's funny how right at the last minute with Scotland about to introduce a deposit scheme, Wales well down the road towards it, even Northern Ireland were making progress, however Westminster/England are hardly out the starting blocks.... this was supposed to be part of their 'Day Job' that everyone goes on about, I wonder what they were up to instead?
    Same with abandoned HS2 projects, their piddling attempt at "levelling up" and possibly net zero if they have their chance. Huge financial outlays by the component institutions involved then let down by central govt who point the finger elsewhere. The biggest news is people fall for it, then again- that's normal.

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    Jesus. Liabilities of 86 million, that's incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    Jesus. Liabilities of 86 million, that's incredible.
    Always came across as quite a frugal bloke in RE! 😁

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    https://news.stv.tv/scotland/cost-of...l-report-shows

    Disgraceful from the SNP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    https://news.stv.tv/scotland/cost-of...l-report-shows

    Disgraceful from the SNP.


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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Everything worth nicking has already been nicked
    And taken over the border.

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    Good absolute clown

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    11,896 of her constituents voted to trigger a by-election

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    Good absolute clown

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    BREAKING: Margaret Ferrier has been SACKED as an MP following a successful recall petition

    11,896 of her constituents voted to trigger a by-election
    Surprised only 14% signed the recall?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Surprised only 14% signed the recall?


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    A total of 11,896 out of the 81,124 eligible constituents in Rutherglen and Hamilton West signed the petition.

    That exceeded the 10% threshold and means a by-election will take place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    A total of 11,896 out of the 81,124 eligible constituents in Rutherglen and Hamilton West signed the petition.

    That exceeded the 10% threshold and means a by-election will take place

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    Yes, was just surprised it only got to 14% with all the party activists out encouraging people to sign.


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    Yes, was just surprised it only got to 14% with all the party activists out encouraging people to sign.


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    Maybe the yes voting constituents don't want to run the risk of a Labour win and decided it might be better just to keep Ferrier in place for now? Or maybe she's actually regarded as an OK MP despite her idiotic behaviour? Or maybe people just don't care that much?

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    SNP are lying b******s as well !

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    Maybe the yes voting constituents don't want to run the risk of a Labour win and decided it might be better just to keep Ferrier in place for now? Or maybe she's actually regarded as an OK MP despite her idiotic behaviour? Or maybe people just don't care that much?
    No idea. Doubt it’s the first one though because SNP were encouraging folk to sign as well.

    Big test for both Yousaf and Sarwar. Yousaf will get a bit of a pass if SNP perform below expectations as just in job, Sarwar needs to show some progress though in what should be an easy win for Labour.
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    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    No idea. Doubt it’s the first one though because SNP were encouraging folk to sign as well.

    Big test for both Yousaf and Sarwar. Yousaf will get a bit of a pass if SNP perform below expectations as just in job, Sarwar needs to show some progress though in what should be an easy win for Labour.
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    5000 lead would be a massive swing, I don't think it's an easy win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    5000 lead would be a massive swing, I don't think it's an easy win
    It will be a very easy win for Labour. Tactical voting will see Tory voters swing in behind Labour. There about 8,000 of them to be had. And it’s a seat Labour won in 2017. I’d put my house on a Labour win.


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    5000 lead would be a massive swing, I don't think it's an easy win
    Not an easy win at all. Despite Ferrier's behaviour and the mess the SNP are in there will remain the core vote for independence at any cost to contend with. A shop dummy could be standing for the SNP and still hoover up those votes. It will be interesting to see if Labour can in some way avoid that being the usual boring battleground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Not an easy win at all. Despite Ferrier's behaviour and the mess the SNP are in there will remain the core vote for independence at any cost to contend with. A shop dummy could be standing for the SNP and still hoover up those votes. It will be interesting to see if Labour can in some way avoid that being the usual boring battleground.
    Oh stop it now. Is this you hedging your bets? Ferriers I behaviour, SNP in a mess, tactical voting between unionists, this only goes one way and if it doesn't then its a kick in the nuts to unionists but Labour in particular as they've been campaigning for months

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    No idea. Doubt it’s the first one though because SNP were encouraging folk to sign as well.

    Big test for both Yousaf and Sarwar. Yousaf will get a bit of a pass if SNP perform below expectations as just in job, Sarwar needs to show some progress though in what should be an easy win for Labour.
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    I just did a quick search on recall petitions and the only one so far to have attracted more than a 20 per cent response was the one involving the jailed former Labour MP Fiona Onassanya.

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    https://twitter.com/staylorish/statu...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Not an easy win at all. Despite Ferrier's behaviour and the mess the SNP are in there will remain the core vote for independence at any cost to contend with. A shop dummy could be standing for the SNP and still hoover up those votes. It will be interesting to see if Labour can in some way avoid that being the usual boring battleground.
    No chance. Labour's to lose.
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    It's pretty much always been a swing seat. It was a labour seat before Ferrier (and a I think SNP before that, and Labour before that).

    I wouldn't read too much into that outcome of a seat that has always flipped between the 2 parties.

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    It's pretty much always been a swing seat. It was a labour seat before Ferrier (and a I think SNP before that, and Labour before that).

    I wouldn't read too much into that outcome of a seat that has always flipped between the 2 parties.
    Ferrier lost it in 2017 but stood again and won it back in 2019. Hopefully Labour can take it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Ferrier lost it in 2017 but stood again and won it back in 2019. Hopefully Labour can take it again.
    With the media's backing, they're strong favourites to take it. It would be an utter embarrassment for them if they were to fail.

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    With the media's backing, they're strong favourites to take it. It would be an utter embarrassment for them if they were to fail.
    Nothing to do with the SNP falling apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    With the media's backing, they're strong favourites to take it. It would be an utter embarrassment for them if they were to fail.
    They had the media against them since 2010 and cruised to massive wins. That has been a constant and can't be blamed for the freefall they are in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    They had the media against them since 2010 and cruised to massive wins. That has been a constant and can't be blamed for the freefall they are in
    I was referring to Labour, not the SNP. Considering the free ride Anas Sarwar has in Scotland and the complete reluctance of the media to challenge them over the 2 child cap policy, they should be winning this sort of seat reasonably comfortably. Failing to do so would be a disaster for them.

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    It will be rough night for the SNP. I don’t think there is much doubt about that. I don’t see it as a waste of time though. I want to see how Yousaf does as a campaigner. I want to see him fighting hard to win the seat no matter how hopeless it looks. How he performs here will give an indication how he will do at the GE next year. And when we lose, he should own it and quickly move on.


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