Missing submersible

[AugustaHibs]

Scary news about the submersible going missing near the titanic site.

Can’t say I have too much sympathy for billionaires who have paid 250k to go and see a mass grave that should be left untouched.

For their sake, I hope the sub has been compromised and the pressure meant it was an instant death.

[Paul1642]

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Scary news about the submersible going missing near the titanic site.

Can’t say I have too much sympathy for billionaires who have paid 250k to go and see a mass grave that should be left untouched.

For their sake, I hope the sub has been compromised and the pressure meant it was an instant death.

Not sure being rich makes you any less deserving of sympathy, nor should a trip to see a shipwreck. Should the millions of tourists each year who travel to the killing field, auschwitz, ieper or similar be deserving of a similar opinion?

I agree with you final point though. The chances of the sub being found and recovered with anyone alive is minimal so here’s hoping they didn’t know much about it.

[Aldo]

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Not sure being rich makes you any less deserving of sympathy, nor should a trip to see a shipwreck. Should the millions of tourists each year who travel to the killing field, auschwitz, Ieper or similar be deserving of a similar opinion?

I agree with you final point though. The chances of the sub being found and recovered with anyone alive is minimal so here’s hoping they didn’t know much about it.

It will all depend on whether or not the hull has been breached

If the vessel passes it’s safe ‘deep dive depth’ there is every chance it has imploded!

I’m surprised it is not fitted with some sort of tracking device.

[Hibrandenburg]

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It will all depend on whether or not the hull has been breached

If the vessel passes it’s safe ‘deep dive depth’ there is every chance it has imploded!

I’m surprised it is not fitted with some sort of tracking device.

I was listening to an engineer who turned down an invitation to go on the vessel. The way he described it made it sound like the thing was built using materials from B&Q.

[Aldo]

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I was listening to an engineer who turned down an invitation to go on the vessel. The way he described it made it sound like the thing was built using materials from B&Q.

That’s quite scary considering they were asking top dollar per trip!

[Paul1642]

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It will all depend on whether or not the hull has been breached

If the vessel passes it’s safe ‘deep dive depth’ there is every chance it has imploded!

I’m surprised it is not fitted with some sort of tracking device.

BBC were reporting not long after it went missing that that method of recovering a sunken submarine should you be lucky enough to find it would be unlikely to work on such a small fragile vessel as the machines are pretty much designed for large military subs.

[Ozyhibby]

They get a similar amount of sympathy from me as base jumpers who fly into the sides of mountains.


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[Aldo]

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BBC were reporting not long after it went missing that that method of recovering a sunken submarine should you be lucky enough to find it would be unlikely to work on such a small fragile vessel as the machines are pretty much designed for large military subs.

The wreck of the titanic is 3800m or 12,500 ft below the surface of water.

You’re average naval submarine will test dive to approximately 1000 ft. It would depend on the age and materials used but a naval Submarine could go to a max of 3000ft.

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I’m surprised it is not fitted with some sort of tracking device.

It was but it seems to have malfunctioned.

The company is getting a lot of negative press from items such as this https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/stat...733282304?s=20

[He's here!]

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Not sure being rich makes you any less deserving of sympathy, nor should a trip to see a shipwreck. Should the millions of tourists each year who travel to the killing field, auschwitz, ieper or similar be deserving of a similar opinion?

I agree with you final point though. The chances of the sub being found and recovered with anyone alive is minimal so here’s hoping they didn’t know much about it.

The Sky report on those who are in the sub says the British guy Harding is one of the world's leading philanthropists when it comes to helping sustainable growth in developing countries.

[Aldo]

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It was but it seems to have malfunctioned.

The company is getting a lot of negative press from items such as this https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/stat...733282304?s=20

If it’s that deep they are done and a good chance it’s imploded

[Pretty Boy]

Very sad for the families of those involved, I'd be surprised if the vessel is ever found.

The reporting seems totally disproportionate though. Over 2000 people died trying to cross the Med last year, 300 died near Greece only days ago and none of them received even a fraction of the coverage or the rescue efforts as this incident. Rolling news, US and UK government ministers commenting, multiple countries and companies committing resources etc etc. I'm not saying it's wrong that such efforts are being made to find these 5 people, it just seems somewhat out of sync. We have a far right politician platformed on multiple mainstream news sources criticising the RNLI and UK coastguard for trying to save human lives in the Channel ffs.

[DH1875]

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Very sad for the families of those involved, I'd be surprised if the vessel is ever found.

The reporting seems totally disproportionate though. Over 2000 people died trying to cross the Med last year, 300 died near Greece only days ago and none of them received even a fraction of the coverage or the rescue efforts as this incident. Rolling news, US and UK government ministers commenting, multiple countries and companies committing resources etc etc. I'm not saying it's wrong that such efforts are being made to find these 5 people, it just seems somewhat out of sync. We have a far right politician platformed on multiple mainstream news sources criticising the RNLI and UK coastguard for trying to save human lives in the Channel ffs.

Money talks.

[Ozyhibby]

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Very sad for the families of those involved, I'd be surprised if the vessel is ever found.

The reporting seems totally disproportionate though. Over 2000 people died trying to cross the Med last year, 300 died near Greece only days ago and none of them received even a fraction of the coverage or the rescue efforts as this incident. Rolling news, US and UK government ministers commenting, multiple countries and companies committing resources etc etc. I'm not saying it's wrong that such efforts are being made to find these 5 people, it just seems somewhat out of sync. We have a far right politician platformed on multiple mainstream news sources criticising the RNLI and UK coastguard for trying to save human lives in the Channel ffs.

These are rich white (probably) people though.


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[Sergio sledge]

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Money talks.

There's an element of that I'm sure.

There's also the sad reality that 500 refugees dying on a boat near Greece has become almost normal and has become "boring" to the general public.

When the war in Ukraine started it was wall to wall coverage, virtually no other news story got air time, now it's generally only getting short segments on the news that I've seen. It's not a ratings winner any more.

This is an unusual occurrence which sounds like it could be a movie plot and the potential to be a big good news story if they actually managed to find them and rescue them so naturally it has been jumped on as a dramatic storyline by all the news agencies.

[Stairway 2 7]

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There's an element of that I'm sure.

There's also the sad reality that 500 refugees dying on a boat near Greece has become almost normal and has become "boring" to the general public.

When the war in Ukraine started it was wall to wall coverage, virtually no other news story got air time, now it's generally only getting short segments on the news that I've seen. It's not a ratings winner any more.

This is an unusual occurrence which sounds like it could be a movie plot and the potential to be a big good news story if they actually managed to find them and rescue them so naturally it has been jumped on as a dramatic storyline by all the news agencies.

Indeed. Its exciting and unusual. Its not about colour yawn, maybe money as that is unusual. But why is it a surprise that this crazy story will be news worthy.

Put up a thread about 4 dead immigrants trying to get in a country and let's see the engagement

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Put up a thread about 4 dead immigrants trying to get in a country and let's see the engagement

To be fair, that would be newsworthy.

[Lendo]

Astounding lack of empathy for what must be terrifying situation, especially given one the missing people is a 19 year old boy.

[Berwickhibby]

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These are rich white (probably) people though.


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2 are Asian (Pakistani) this is nothing to do with colour…more to do with wealth and location….hang around for a year and the movie will be released

[Stairway 2 7]

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To be fair, that would be newsworthy.

Not headline, unlike the story in Greece a few days ago I without much talk on here, hundreds suspected dead unfortunately

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Not headline, unlike the story in Greece a few days ago I without much talk on here, hundreds suspected dead unfortunately

Read your post again. Not now, when you wake up tomorrow.

[Smartie]

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Astounding lack of empathy for what must be terrifying situation, especially given one the missing people is a 19 year old boy.

Good point.

Is the newsworthiness of this not that it is potentially a horrific experience for some people to be going through? Many of us will have the horror / fantasy relative to a submersible but incidents involving them are incredibly rare so when something happens it is very newsworthy indeed?

[He's here!]

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There's an element of that I'm sure.

There's also the sad reality that 500 refugees dying on a boat near Greece has become almost normal and has become "boring" to the general public.

When the war in Ukraine started it was wall to wall coverage, virtually no other news story got air time, now it's generally only getting short segments on the news that I've seen. It's not a ratings winner any more.

This is an unusual occurrence which sounds like it could be a movie plot and the potential to be a big good news story if they actually managed to find them and rescue them so naturally it has been jumped on as a dramatic storyline by all the news agencies.

There's no doubting the Greek tragedy (rightly) commanded plenty of coverage, with more to unfold there.

As you say, though, this is a story which captivates worldwide attention because of the ever-absorbing Titanic connection and the 'couldn't make it up' nature of an exploration vessel seemingly meeting a similar fate.

I really can't go along with the 'they deserve what's happened because they're wealthy' narrative.

[Jones28]

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It was but it seems to have malfunctioned.

The company is getting a lot of negative press from items such as this https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/stat...733282304?s=20

I saw that part of the story on the news today. They could have used hundreds of thousands of pounds or dollars designing and testing a new device, or they can use a £50 controller used by hundreds of millions of people.

I don’t think I give too much of a **** about billionaires being lost on a £200,000 a head expedition to the bottom of the sea. I care far more about the thousands of people dying in the seas off Europe who are fleeing war and persecution.

[Hibrandenburg]

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I saw that part of the story on the news today. They could have used hundreds of thousands of pounds or dollars designing and testing a new device, or they can use a £50 controller used by hundreds of millions of people.

I don’t think I give too much of a **** about billionaires being lost on a £200,000 a head expedition to the bottom of the sea. I care far more about the thousands of people dying in the seas off Europe who are fleeing war and persecution.

But the titanic is closer to home. Oh wait a minute

[Bostonhibby]

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Very sad for the families of those involved, I'd be surprised if the vessel is ever found.

The reporting seems totally disproportionate though. Over 2000 people died trying to cross the Med last year, 300 died near Greece only days ago and none of them received even a fraction of the coverage or the rescue efforts as this incident. Rolling news, US and UK government ministers commenting, multiple countries and companies committing resources etc etc. I'm not saying it's wrong that such efforts are being made to find these 5 people, it just seems somewhat out of sync. We have a far right politician platformed on multiple mainstream news sources criticising the RNLI and UK coastguard for trying to save human lives in the Channel ffs.

Thinking much the same thing today and attempting to discuss it with a few local acquaintances.

Let's just say I'm much more at ease with the broader range of debate and understanding on here

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[AgentDaleCooper]

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Very sad for the families of those involved, I'd be surprised if the vessel is ever found.

The reporting seems totally disproportionate though. Over 2000 people died trying to cross the Med last year, 300 died near Greece only days ago and none of them received even a fraction of the coverage or the rescue efforts as this incident. Rolling news, US and UK government ministers commenting, multiple countries and companies committing resources etc etc. I'm not saying it's wrong that such efforts are being made to find these 5 people, it just seems somewhat out of sync. We have a far right politician platformed on multiple mainstream news sources criticising the RNLI and UK coastguard for trying to save human lives in the Channel ffs.

exactly

[Kato]

I hope those guys are found and if not I hope it was quick. Scary as. Saying that it's like playing dangerous sports, "xtreme", always a risk.

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[TrumpIsAPeado]

Interesting that the media puts so much concern into the care and welfare of billionaires who have likely been raking it in at our expense during this economic charade. Meanwhile, people dying on boats desperately trying to escape war and persecution or people going hungry due to this on going economic thievery from billionaires, are merely statistics.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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To be fair, that would be newsworthy.

I thought that was quite amusing. 😁