SNP are lying b******s as well !

[Paul1642]

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Front page of the mail running with new fraudulent allegations

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Michelle Thomson's clearly not taken kindly to Keith Brown claiming she stepped down voluntarily:

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I'd trust Keith Brown over somebody who scams terminally ill people tbh.

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I'd trust Keith Brown over somebody who scams terminally ill people tbh.

Why? You told me Patrick Grady wasn't guilty of anything (despite apologinng) because there hadn't been a police investigation. Why does the same not apply to Michelle Thomson?

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Why? You told me Patrick Grady wasn't guilty of anything (despite apologinng) because there hadn't been a police investigation. Why does the same not apply to Michelle Thomson?

I never said she was guilty of anything in the eyes of the law. A person doesn't need to be guilty in the eyes of the law to be a thoroughly despicable human being. I also never said that Patrick Grady wasn't guilty of anything (just that it hadn't been proven in a court of law), so don't make things up.

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I never said she was guilty of anything in the eyes of the law. A person doesn't need to be guilty in the eyes of the law to be a thoroughly despicable human being. I also never said that Patrick Grady wasn't guilty of anything (just that it hadn't been proven in a court of law), so don't make things up.

Well you argued that the Parliamentary investigation and his admission weren't significant because the police hadn't been involved. It's so absurd I can see you want to distance yourself from it.

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A person doesn't need to be guilty in the eyes of the law to be a thoroughly despicable human being.

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Why? You told me Patrick Grady wasn't guilty of anything (despite apologinng) because there hadn't been a police investigation. Why does the same not apply to Michelle Thomson?

There are certainly inconsistencies here. IIRC Thomson was never even under police investigation yet got suspended. The Murrells & Co have all been arrested as suspects in a criminal investigation yet for them it's 'innocent until proven guilty'.

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Latest polling shows Labour on course to win in Scotland at next general election.

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There are certainly inconsistencies here. IIRC Thomson was never even under police investigation yet got suspended. The Murrells & Co have all been arrested as suspects in a criminal investigation yet for them it's 'innocent until proven guilty'.

Do you really want to talk about inconsistencies?

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There are certainly inconsistencies here. IIRC Thomson was never even under police investigation yet got suspended. The Murrells & Co have all been arrested as suspects in a criminal investigation yet for them it's 'innocent until proven guilty'.

She never got "suspended" because the SNP were in no legal position to suspend her. She voluntary stepped down because she knew a police investigation was on the horizon. An investigation that lasted 2 years. But even then, the SNP could not legally suspend her.

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She never got "suspended" because the SNP were in no legal position to suspend her. She voluntary stepped down because she knew a police investigation was on the horizon. An investigation that lasted 2 years. But even then, the SNP could not legally suspend her.

Again, your saying it didn't happen because there wasn't a legal power to do so. She is saying that she was forced to do it. Why won't you believe a woman telling her story?

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Again, your saying it didn't happen because there wasn't a legal power to do so. She is saying that she was forced to do it. Why won't you believe a woman telling her story?

Why do you believe a con artist telling her story? She claims to have been "forced" out. But gives absolutely no details on the apparent methods used to "force" her out. This on top of the fact that she actively said at the time that she voluntarily stepped down. She's a liar, plain and simple.

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Why do you believe a con artist telling her story? She claims to have been "forced" out. But gives absolutely no details on the apparent methods used to "force" her out. This on top of the fact that she actively said at the time that she voluntarily stepped down. She's a liar, plain and simple.

SNP politician telling lies and is a con artist …shock horror

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Why do you believe a con artist telling her story? She claims to have been "forced" out. But gives absolutely no details on the apparent methods used to "force" her out. This on top of the fact that she actively said at the time that she voluntarily stepped down. She's a liar, plain and simple.

You're a loyal foot soldier - I'll give you that.

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It's not unique to the SNP and pretty small beer compared to the unionist parties. Tories lied and conned the tax payer out of billions with their dodgy dealings and last time around Labour lied and it ended up with a million dead Iraqis.

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SNP politician telling lies and is a con artist …shock horror

It's almost as if every party is prone to the odd rotten one every now and then. Well except of course for the Conservative Party which is the home for all things rotten in general.

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It's almost as if every party is prone to the odd rotten one every now and then. Well except of course for the Conservative Party which is the home for all things rotten in general.

Yup Tartan Tories behaving like the real Tory’s lol 😂

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I never said she was guilty of anything in the eyes of the law. A person doesn't need to be guilty in the eyes of the law to be a thoroughly despicable human being. I also never said that Patrick Grady wasn't guilty of anything (just that it hadn't been proven in a court of law), so don't make things up.

'A thoroughly despicable human being'...quite the character assassination.

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'A thoroughly despicable human being'...quite the character assassination.

Not really surprised to see you defend a person of her "calibre" tbh.

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Again, your saying it didn't happen because there wasn't a legal power to do so. She is saying that she was forced to do it. Why won't you believe a woman telling her story?

Depends which woman it is I suspect. Now that we live in an era where 'speaking your truth' is seemingly the equivalent of THE truth, I'm guessing Sturgeon being 'certain' she has done nothing wrong precludes the need for the police to conclude their investigation in the eyes of her devotees.

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Not really surprised to see you defend a person of her "calibre" tbh.

I'm not defending her. I don't know her. I just think she makes a valid point about the SNP criteria for suspension.

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Depends which woman it is I suspect. Now that we live in an era where 'speaking your truth' is seemingly the equivalent of THE truth, I'm guessing Sturgeon being 'certain' she has done nothing wrong precludes the need for the police to conclude their investigation in the eyes of her devotees.

Difference is. Nicola Sturgeon hasn't been found to have done anything wrong as of yet. Michelle Thompson scammed people to further her own business interests, this is a proven fact, even if she technically did so within the law.

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Not really surprised to see you defend a person of her "calibre" tbh.

Your so argumentative old bean, lighten up its hard to read the constant war in these posts again after the board got better, or don't I suppose

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I can see this forum going back to being PM again, most of the debate is tit for tat and point scoring, getting all so very boring.

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I can see this forum going back to being PM again, most of the debate is tit for tat and point scoring, getting all so very boring.

you’re right about your last point, it is, although I have a feeling that the admins won’t just make it PMs only, they’ll just shut it down.


some civility for all please

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I can see this forum going back to being PM again, most of the debate is tit for tat and point scoring, getting all so very boring.

I would support that.

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I would support that.

There was certainly more policy chat.


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There was certainly more policy chat.


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It's the same 3-4 anti SNP posters over every post.

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Depends which woman it is I suspect. Now that we live in an era where 'speaking your truth' is seemingly the equivalent of THE truth, I'm guessing Sturgeon being 'certain' she has done nothing wrong precludes the need for the police to conclude their investigation in the eyes of her devotees.

She could easily have said “I’ve done nothing wrong”.

This was a clever choice of words that left just enough wiggle room!