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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    The deficit isn’t the same as debt.
    What's your point? Deficit is the contributing factor to debt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    What's your point? Deficit is the contributing factor to debt.
    Care to explain what you mean? The deficit in Scotland leads to an effective fiscal transfer from UKG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    Care to explain what you mean? The deficit in Scotland leads to an effective fiscal transfer from UKG.
    It's UK Government spending in Scotland beyond the control of Holyrood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    It's UK Government spending in Scotland beyond the control of Holyrood.
    Like pensions? It's good that these are paid, isn’t it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    Like pensions? It's good that these are paid, isn’t it?
    Right, but Scotland's annual deficit and the accumulation towards it's share of the UK National Debt figure can't exactly be blamed on the Scottish Government, when the Scottish Government is working with a budget that is considerably less than Scotland's overall tax contributions to the treasury, a budget that is regularly under-spent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    It's UK Government spending in Scotland beyond the control of Holyrood.
    It’s not always in Scotland. Sometimes it’s just spending for our benefit that happens in England. Like coronations etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    It’s not always in Scotland. Sometimes it’s just spending for our benefit that happens in England. Like coronations etc.


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    Or spending on infrastructure in Scotland for the extraction of resources that benefit other parts of the UK. Scotland's "deficit" though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    Right, but Scotland's annual deficit and the accumulation towards it's share of the UK National Debt figure can't exactly be blamed on the Scottish Government, when the Scottish Government is working with a budget that is considerably less than Scotland's overall tax contributions to the treasury, a budget that is regularly under-spent.
    The Scottish Government budget is less than the tax take in Scotland. But the UK Government spends money here as well. The total spend by both governments is higher than the total tax take here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    The Scottish Government budget is less than the tax take in Scotland. But the UK Government spends money here as well. The total spend by both governments is higher than the total tax take here.
    Yes, but my point still stands. The Scottish Government has no control over direct spending decisions made by the UK Government, which is where the annual deficit stems from. So any suggestion that Scotland's annual deficit is some result of economic incompetency from the Scottish Government is completely false.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    Yes, but my point still stands. The Scottish Government has no control over direct spending decisions made by the UK Government, which is where the annual deficit stems from. So any suggestion that Scotland's annual deficit is some result of economic incompetency from the Scottish Government is completely false.
    I'm not arguing that it is incompetence.

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    Found liable for sexual assault and defamation of Jean E Carroll.

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    I'm kind of wondering why they agreed that he sexually abused her, but didn't feel convinced that he raped her?

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    Weirdly still don’t think it will stop him running again!

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    i'm sure he won't have to put his grubby hands in his pockets to pay the fine


    let the crowdfunding commence

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokesmessiah View Post
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    Weirdly still don’t think it will stop him running again!
    It absolutely won't. For his demented followers it will just be further 'proof' that the establishment is out to get him 😔

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    The reprehensible Jacob Rees-Mogg defending him on GB news.

    A vote for the conservatives is a vote for this ****.
    "...when Hibs won the Scottish Cup final and that celebration, Sunshine on Leith? I don’t think there’s a better football celebration ever in the game.”

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    Trump indicted again on 7 charges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Trump indicted again on 7 charges
    And once again this doesn't stop him running for office. The USA is mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neil7908 View Post
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    It absolutely won't. For his demented followers it will just be further 'proof' that the establishment is out to get him 😔
    ... And are being spurred on by Republican politicians, including the leader of the house - who know exactly who he is and what he's done, and that this has all been brought about by his own behaviour - who are claiming that this is Biden engaging in election interference. And failing to acknowledge that this happened under the direction of a Trump appointed Republican FBI director, with charges only laid after recommendation by a Grand Duty in Florida, following evidence from Republican witnesses and Trump employees, appointees and cohorts. It's deeply cynical, cowardly and irresponsible.

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    Regretfully the Trump hard core will merely have their twisted belief that Trump is being victimised confirmed even more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    And once again this doesn't stop him running for office. The USA is mental.
    I hold no love for the clown, but at this point, he's simply been charged with committing a crime, he's not been found guilty of anything yet in a criminal court. If (and I hope when) he is convicted, he'll be disqualified for running for office.

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    Government is merely a legalised crime syndicate. Everybody who has made it to the top has done so with blood on their hands and are clearly immune to any real life consequences for their actions. Trump getting a pretendy telling off in court won't change anything. It's all a show that's put in place for the masses to give them a false sense of accountability being upheld, when there's really no accountability at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    And once again this doesn't stop him running for office. The USA is mental.
    Do you think Biden should be indicted as well ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Do you think Biden should be indicted as well ?
    If he committed a crime the same then yes. Don’t think he has though? The most serious charges are the obstruction ones and the lying? No evidence of Biden doing that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    If he committed a crime the same then yes. Don’t think he has though? The most serious charges are the obstruction ones and the lying? No evidence of Biden doing that?


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    I thought concealing classified documents was a serious crime .

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    Do you think Biden should be indicted as well ?
    What's he done?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenginger View Post
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    I thought concealing classified documents was a serious crime .
    Has he concealed any?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Has he concealed any?


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    The FBI had to search his houses to find them.

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