SNP are lying b******s as well !

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The Scottish Government provides support to Northlink Ferries for the lifeline service between the mainland and Orkney.

The Scottish Government provides no support to Pentland Ferries so I don't know where you get this idea of "provider of last resort". Pentland is a private business receiving no Government funding.

Aye, they saw a business opportunity using a crossing that had been dismissed in the past. They look to have got themselves a really good deal by leasing out the Alfred as well.

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SNP politicians going along with self-ID ‘for a quiet life’, claims MP (msn.com)

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SNP politicians going along with self-ID ‘for a quiet life’, claims MP (msn.com)

There is a separate thread for this.


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[TrumpIsAPeado]

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SNP politicians going along with self-ID ‘for a quiet life’, claims MP (msn.com)

The same as politicians from every other major party then? I wonder how many MPs in the Conservative Party were silently opposed to the bedroom tax or the rape clause, but just went along with it anyway for a quiet life? I wonder how many Labour MPs are silently opposed to Keir Starmer's u-turning on major policy pledges, but are saying nothing for a quiet life?

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There is a separate thread for this.


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Bit of a crossover and I thought on balance it belonged on here.

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The Scottish Government provides support to Northlink Ferries for the lifeline service between the mainland and Orkney.

The Scottish Government provides no support to Pentland Ferries so I don't know where you get this idea of "provider of last resort". Pentland is a private business receiving no Government funding.

Well, technically Pentland got a lot of taxpayers' money for the use of the MV Alfred

But in reponse to your point, I didn't "get this idea of 'provider of last resort'" It's an expression in relatively common use in the public sector to describe a fallback option when all the planned options have failed.

For example, carers who work in people's homes. The majority in Scotland work for private sector companies but sometimes those companies fail. In that instance the local authority is usually deemed to be the 'provider of last resort' and requires to deploy its own resources and staff to address the shortfall.

Sometimes it has a more formalised status, so for example the energy regultor has a process in place by which should your energy supplier suddenly go out of business, you aren't left stranded as another provider, in this case the 'supplier of last resort', is required to step in. This is an example of where the private sector can be the 'POTL' as well as causing the need for it.

With Pentland, SG have used them as a de facto provider of last resort - the planned service provision has singularly failed and money has had to be found to pay someone else to step in, presumably until such time as a more permanent arrangement can be put in place.

In some respects the armed forces could be seen as a 'provider of last resort'. I think SG requested this at one stage for the ferries, and I think the UK government requested this in the English Channel. It is different from what's described above however, as the armed forces can't be 'contracted' to do so. This is because they all form part of the state, or more accurately 'the Crown' and tone part of the Crown can't enter into a legal contract with another. That's why they use Memorandums of Understanding, or service-level agreements. All moot anyway because the RN wanted nothing to do with the small boats in the Channel and I suspect wanted nothing to do with the bigger boats in the Minch, or wherever.

So, you quoted two of my questions but I don't see you answering them (although in fairness you're not the transport minister I assume).

The islanders have lost a significant service and it's reasonable to ask what SG intend to do about it, and especially whether they put undue pressure on Pentland to rush a ferry back to sea to allow the Alfred to move to the west coast.

It's also reasonable to ask whether the process was thorough in evaluating risk. It involves a lot of taxpayers' money.

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The good news is he has reached double figures. And most importantly, he did it by himself.

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The same as politicians from every other major party then? I wonder how many MPs in the Conservative Party were silently opposed to the bedroom tax or the rape clause, but just went along with it anyway for a quiet life? I wonder how many Labour MPs are silently opposed to Keir Starmer's u-turning on major policy pledges, but are saying nothing for a quiet life?

Angry ex-government minister Fergus Ewing rips up fishing plan - BBC News

You certainly couldn't accuse Fergus Ewing of saying nothing against his party for a quiet life. Following his diatribe against their partnership with the Greens last week he's literally been ripping up government policy in parliament today.

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The marine protected areas debate should be interesting.


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Angry ex-government minister Fergus Ewing rips up fishing plan - BBC News

You certainly couldn't accuse Fergus Ewing of saying nothing against his party for a quiet life. Following his diatribe against their partnership with the Greens last week he's literally been ripping up government policy in parliament today.

So do you think politicians should speak out against policies they can't morally support from their own perspective or should they keep quiet and toe the party line?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...-west-65459516

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...7-907279448730

Great work by Humza.


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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...7-907279448730

Great work by Humza.


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But the rumours said nobody would touch them. Why are the rumours wrong on this?

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But the rumours said nobody would touch them. Why are the rumours wrong on this?

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Rumours by who… you phone up a set of chartered accountants who provide an audit service and agree a deal … cannot even see why this is newsworthy

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But the rumours said nobody would touch them. Why are the rumours wrong on this?

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They weren't rumours. Both Flynn and Yousaf confirmed they were having trouble finding new auditors - presumably because the Murrells had kept them in the dark about the previous ones quitting months ago and leaving them scrabbling around to find new ones at the 11th hour.

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Rumours by who… you phone up a set of chartered accountants who provide an audit service and agree a deal … cannot even see why this is newsworthy

Their absence was def newsworthy in the unionist media.


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They'll be gutted. Or should that be on the protected fishing grounds thread which will no doubt be trawled. 🎣

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Rumours by who… you phone up a set of chartered accountants who provide an audit service and agree a deal … cannot even see why this is newsworthy

It's newsworthy when they "can't find" an auditor but not when they hire one?

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It's newsworthy when they "can't find" an auditor but not when they hire one?

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The "British" media will be looking for yet another SNP bad story to focus on...

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The "British" media will be looking for yet another SNP bad story to focus on...

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How much are the auditors costing? Is it more than the other parties registered in Scotland (delete Scottish Labour, Tories, and Lib dems)

Front pages will be on here soon enough. 😂

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I wonder if the police holding all these documents will cause the auditors a problem?

I'll let the accountancy company and professional conspiracy theorists sort that one out 😆

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It's newsworthy when they "can't find" an auditor but not when they hire one?

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Newsworthy …nah …incompetent for not hiring a company to complete the task…definitely

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Newsworthy …nah …incompetent for not hiring a company to complete the task…definitely

Or alternatively, auditors resign, no rush to get new ones as you only really need them at year end, police investigation and subsequent media feeding frenzy(looking increasingly desperate) makes it seem worse, year end approaches, new auditor appointed. Pretty straight forward really.

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Or alternatively, auditors resign, no rush to get new ones as you only really need them at year end, police investigation and subsequent media feeding frenzy(looking increasingly desperate) makes it seem worse, year end approaches, new auditor appointed. Pretty straight forward really.

I wonder when the police will raid her mammy's house in ayrshire to look for the brand new tesla and years supply of biros?

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Or alternatively, auditors resign, no rush to get new ones as you only really need them at year end, police investigation and subsequent media feeding frenzy(looking increasingly desperate) makes it seem worse, year end approaches, new auditor appointed. Pretty straight forward really.

You believe what you wish, but 6 months without an auditor is not normal practice, what reason did the auditors give to leave paid employment, why have the SNP taken on an English Company to complete their audit. Smells like the treasurer and Accountant management incompetence to me.

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You believe what you wish, but 6 months without an auditor is not normal practice, what reason did the auditors give to leave paid employment, why have the SNP taken on an English Company to complete their audit. Smells like the treasurer and Accountant management incompetence to me.

Of course it does, but it always will to you. No matter what you say the fact that more than two years since the investigation started there is none, zero, nada, zilch evidence of illegal wrongdoing it looks like a complete farce. And after two years I would say that incompetent would be a good description of the police. But unionists everywhere will continue to claim all sorts, aided and abetted by the msm.
Why wouldn't they take on an English company? I would suggest that it is a good thing. No chance of any claims of SNP bias. I believe the last auditors said that they were rationalising their customer base and the SNP weren't the only one that they stopped working with.

I will add as always that if there is any illegality then those involved deserve everything coming to them.

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Of course it does, but it always will to you. No matter what you say the fact that more than two years since the investigation started there is none, zero, nada, zilch evidence of illegal wrongdoing it looks like a complete farce. And after two years I would say that incompetent would be a good description of the police. But unionists everywhere will continue to claim all sorts, aided and abetted by the msm.
Why wouldn't they take on an English company? I would suggest that it is a good thing. No chance of any claims of SNP bias. I believe the last auditors said that they were rationalising their customer base and the SNP weren't the only one that they stopped working with.

I will add as always that if there is any illegality then those involved deserve everything coming to them.

Yeah I agree, incompetence but with the Procurator Fiscal who is leading this investigation as the police cannot pull the plug or end this investigation. If you recall the initial complaints made were ignored by police as it did not reach evidential evidence threshold to start an investigation.

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https://www.scotsman.com/education/s...lleges-4127370

What a disgrace.