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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
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    Very obviously is not the case by any metric

    There are arguably certain things that are worth paying a premium for too

    6 Nations coverage isn’t cheap either for example. The BBC spend a fortune on Glastonbury which isn’t for everyone. Wimbledon.

    Personally I think they do a pretty good job. And that is nothing to do with my personal viewing preferences! There is an amazing breadth of content and they get the balance right on value for money IMO
    Absolutely nothing obvious about it. There are almost 25 million licence fee payers in the country. Match of the day gets roughly 2 million viewers.
    Hardly premium figures.
    For context heres last weeks best bbc viewed programmes
    Beyond Paradise 7.5 M
    Wild Isles. 5M
    Race across the World. 4.5M
    Antiques Roadshow. 4.5M
    Blue Lights 4.1M

    Not looking for an argument but this premium product isn’t value for money. Nor Glastonbury or the six nation or Golf as they’ve already stopped that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Maybe the page is personalised because I can't see any Aberdeen/Rangers story on the football page ....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football
    You need

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/scottish

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    Quote Originally Posted by w pilton hibby View Post
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    How come...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/English

    This dosen't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Not specifically a Sportscene issue, but on the wider point about BBC coverage of the Scottish game, interesting to see there are NO Scottish football stories on the football page of the BBC Sport website. Stories about the FA Cup, the EPL, European football, the Women's game, but not Scottish stories.
    Just click on Leagues & Cups, there are loads of stories in there about Scottish Football.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/leagues-cups


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven79 View Post
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    How come...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/English

    This dosen't work?

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    No idea. Ask the BBC. Its their website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by w pilton hibby View Post
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    No idea. Ask the BBC. Its their website.
    I think we all know why...



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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Absolutely nothing obvious about it. There are almost 25 million licence fee payers in the country. Match of the day gets roughly 2 million viewers.
    Hardly premium figures.
    For context heres last weeks best bbc viewed programmes
    Beyond Paradise 7.5 M
    Wild Isles. 5M
    Race across the World. 4.5M
    Antiques Roadshow. 4.5M
    Blue Lights 4.1M

    Not looking for an argument but this premium product isn’t value for money. Nor Glastonbury or the six nation or Golf as they’ve already stopped that.
    A very flawed and old fashioned argument. On a Saturday night it probably has a 25% audience share.

    On an annual basis MOTD gets over 40 million streams and is in the BBCs top 20 shows

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    Absolutely nothing obvious about it. There are almost 25 million licence fee payers in the country. Match of the day gets roughly 2 million viewers.
    Hardly premium figures.
    For context heres last weeks best bbc viewed programmes
    Beyond Paradise 7.5 M
    Wild Isles. 5M
    Race across the World. 4.5M
    Antiques Roadshow. 4.5M
    Blue Lights 4.1M

    Not looking for an argument but this premium product isn’t value for money. Nor Glastonbury or the six nation or Golf as they’ve already stopped that.
    Also see this from 2019

    More than half were positive or neutral on MOTD and it was in the top 100 popular shows across all channels. So license fee payers objectively in favour of the programme
    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/entertainment/explore/tv_programme/MOTD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
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    Also see this from 2019

    More than half were positive or neutral on MOTD and it was in the top 100 popular shows across all channels. So license fee payers objectively in favour of the programme
    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/entertai...programme/MOTD
    Ah. A good old yougov poll rather than actual viewing figures. I bet the majority of folk paying the licence fee do so because they legally have to and don’t give where it goes a second thought. I’d be surprised if it’s in their mind when doing a popularity poll. Also depends on what question is asked and to whom. The viewing figures suggest it’s not nearly as popular on the BBC as other programmes for a fraction of the budget. I think my thinking it’s not value for money stands. Like I said not looking for an argument just putting last weeks figures out there. Those figures I gave were just the bbc ones. ITV figures featured much higher and more frequently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlex View Post
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    I bet the majority of folk paying the licence fee do so because they legally have to and don’t give where it goes a second thought.
    They think they have to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CentreLine View Post
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    But you do have the choice. If you want English tv you simply tune in to English tv.
    I don’t want to watch English women’s football or FA cup games. My choice very often seems to be to turn off or look for something on a pay per view channel. It tells me the bbc put a disproportionate amount of my licence fee in to English football.
    When the Scottish League Cup final was on, bbc and itv were showing us the above live and not even a nod towards a national cup final taking place in part of the uk by any terrestrial channel. It may even have been bbc one and two rather than itv. One way or another two of the principal terrestrial channels were dominated by English football and regularly are.
    The Scottish league cup competition that’s sponsored by and wholly broadcast on a subscription channel, who pay for that privilege?

    More surprising that you’d expect the BBC to mention something they legally cannot broadcast, why would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    Your experience is a lot different to mine. A large number of Scottish football fans I've ever come across have a preferred English team or at the very least teams they like more than others and teams they dislike.
    My experience is the same as yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee View Post
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    They think they have to.
    Correct, I’ve never paid it and I’ve been waiting for my visit from Mr BBC for around 5 years now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC View Post
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    Correct, I’ve never paid it and I’ve been waiting for my visit from Mr BBC for around 5 years now.


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    So it's your fault Sportscene is substandard. 🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC View Post
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    Correct, I’ve never paid it and I’ve been waiting for my visit from Mr BBC for around 5 years now.


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    Just go online, fill in the form about not having a connected tv and they wont get in touch for another year, it might even be 3 years.

    And remember even if someone comes to your door, tell them nothing and just close the door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    Just go online, fill in the form about not having a connected tv and they wont get in touch for another year, it might even be 3 years.

    And remember even if someone comes to your door, tell them nothing and just close the door.
    I’m actually wanting them to come to the door that’s why I’ve not done that. I want to waste their time, have them come out to my house and just tell them to go away and close the door. ********s.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    So it's your fault Sportscene is substandard.
    Probably, a lot of things seem to be my fault


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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC View Post
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    I’m actually wanting them to come to the door that’s why I’ve not done that. I want to waste their time, have them come out to my house and just tell them to go away and close the door. ********s.


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    Pop your details in here then:

    https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ96

    😃

    I love Call My Bluff, don't know why the bloody BBC took it off air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
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    Pop your details in here then:

    https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ96



    I love Call My Bluff, don't know why the bloody BBC took it off air.
    I can’t believe that even exists, Jesus Christ imagine being the grass that reports folk for watching the telly


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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC View Post
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    I can’t believe that even exists, Jesus Christ imagine being the grass that reports folk for watching the telly


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    Just don't invite Lee Wallace round and you won't get a drive by from one of these bad boys.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
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    A very flawed and old fashioned argument. On a Saturday night it probably has a 25% audience share.

    On an annual basis MOTD gets over 40 million streams and is in the BBCs top 20 shows
    And is this live viewings, not taking into account the iPlayer watches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    Maybe the page is personalised because I can't see any Aberdeen/Rangers story on the football page ....

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football
    Yeah the BBC are targeting you as they know you hate the English and are on the wind up 🤣

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    And is this live viewings, not taking into account the iPlayer watches?
    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC View Post
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    I’m actually wanting them to come to the door that’s why I’ve not done that. I want to waste their time, have them come out to my house and just tell them to go away and close the door. ********s.


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    Filled in a report for you.

    Mr. E G Bragh 75 Letsby Avenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
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    No
    So need to add in those watching on the Sunday morning repeat and on catch up, I expect the figure is quite higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    Yeah the BBC are targeting you as they know you hate the English and are on the wind up 🤣
    I knew it!

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    What is this license fee thing people are talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    What is this license fee thing people are talking about?
    I think I’m the only person I know that actually has one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iain G View Post
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    So need to add in those watching on the Sunday morning repeat and on catch up, I expect the figure is quite higher.
    Sorry crossed wires - the over 40 million was the Iplayer streams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
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    Filled in a report for you.

    Mr. E G Bragh 75 Letsby Avenue.
    Cheers Victor


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