SNP are lying b******s as well !

[147lothian]

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What about a multi million £ ferry contract going to an SNP mega donner

shhhhhhh get with the program, nothing to see the SNP are motoring on!

[Berwickhibby]

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What about a multi million £ ferry contract going to an SNP mega donner

come on Greenginger, Hibs.net Holy Ground rules…don’t mention the SNP incompetence with the ferries

[Glory Lurker]

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come on Greenginger, Hibs.net Holy Ground rules…don’t mention the SNP incompetence with the ferries

How come it gets mentioned every day, then?

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What about a multi million £ ferry contract going to an SNP mega donner

I can find no reports of Ferguson Marine ever donating to the SNP and McColl, the previous owner, said he never did.

A balls up? Yup. But no suggestion of a fast track type scenario.

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How come it gets mentioned every day, then?

Probably because posters recognise the utter incompetence over the ferries 🤷*♂️ I assume

[Stairway 2 7]

Kate forbes first column in the national

https://www.thenational.scot/politic...eeds-rhetoric/

[Mcbizz1998]

Hearts and the SNP falling apart at the same
time. What a time to be alive lads!

[WhileTheChief..]

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It must be very hard for people who are so heavily invested in something to be able to see/admit what looks like matters very damaging to that thing. Mind you Cherry, Salmond et al seem more enthusiastic about getting the disinfectant out.

Robison's position is completely untenable however. 'Things shouldn't have been allowed to come to this' says best mate of person who allowed things to come to this (and that's a charitable description). You could almost imagine she hadn't been a senior Minister and Sturgeon's bestie throughout Sturgeon's time as FM.

They've both talked a lot of sense recently, Salmond especially so. The SNP should listen to him.

Trying to pretend everything is fine or someone else's fault is only adding to the impression that they're trying to cover stuff up.

They're also tying themselves in knots saying they have to improve transparency and governance within their party, whilst at the same time saying there was nothing wrong with it under NS for the past decade!

[Skol]

I have just perused the equivalent thread across the road. Even the most ardent snp faithful from there are acknowledging this isn’t good and it’s hard to find backing for the snp

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I have just perused the equivalent thread across the road. Even the most ardent snp faithful from there are acknowledging this isn’t good and it’s hard to find backing for the snp

I was chatting yesterday to a pal who is an SNP member. They are enraged by what is happening.

[bawheid]

Not really followed this story much. Wonder if folks can help me with a few things.

Has it been established why the police needed to erect a blue forensic evidence tent on Sturgeon’s front lawn?

If the investigation has been going on two years, why are the police raiding addresses at 0700 in the morning? Is that in case those living at the addresses get wind of an impending raid and try and hide evidence? Maybe by burying in the front garden?

It seems a coincidence that the latest dawn raid would take place on the same day the new FM was to launch his premiership in parliament. Could they not have done it the day before, or after? Presumably it had to be done at that particular sunrise in case yon treasurer bloke buried evidence in his front garden?

Finally, does anyone have any idea what the charges will be? Maroon balloons across the city got away with borrowing money from themselves for years.

Cheers.

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Probably because posters recognise the utter incompetence over the ferries 🤷*♂️ I assume

So it is allowed to mention it after all?

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Not really followed this story much. Wonder if folks can help me with a few things.

Has it been established why the police needed to erect a blue forensic evidence tent on Sturgeon’s front lawn?

If the investigation has been going on two years, why are the police raiding addresses at 0700 in the morning? Is that in case those living at the addresses get wind of an impending raid and try and hide evidence? Maybe by burying in the front garden?

It seems a coincidence that the latest dawn raid would take place on the same day the new FM was to launch his premiership in parliament. Could they not have done it the day before, or after? Presumably it had to be done at that particular sunrise in case yon treasurer bloke buried evidence in his front garden?

Finally, does anyone have any idea what the charges will be? Maroon balloons across the city got away with borrowing money from themselves for years.

Cheers.

Add to that we have the most corrupt British government in my lifetime now forbidding bilateral talks between Scottish representatives and their European partners and government ministers calling for the end of devolution in Scotland, if you're not concerned about democracy in Scotland then you really should be.

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So it is allowed to mention it after all?

They just don't know they're doing it. 😉

[Since90+2]

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So it is allowed to mention it after all?

If that short debate between yourself and BH was a chess match, this response would be check mate 😄

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I was chatting yesterday to a pal who is an SNP member. They are enraged by what is happening.

This is the reaction I’d have expected of most SNP supporters, they’re the ones that have been let down the most.

That there is still so much support for NS seems ridiculous to me as an outsider looking in.

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Speculation from both sides is mind boggling. Surely best to wait and see what happens before having to backtrack. The line "I'm no lawyer and don't know the details but surely..." has been used by both to show its an injustice or that they are guilty

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I was chatting yesterday to a pal who is an SNP member. They are enraged by what is happening.

I’ve got a couple of mates who are long standing SNP members.

They ain’t mentioned politics in a month.

[Stairway 2 7]

A few people today going with Scotlands hospitals best in the uk well 26th,34th,38th

https://twitter.com/The_Dundonian/st...07355226394629
The_Dundonian
Honestly, that bloody Humza Yousaf making Scottish hospitals the best in the UK. How very dare he do such a good job? Bloody SNP doing things 100 times better than Labour in Wales and Tories in England

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A few people today going with Scotlands hospitals best in the uk well 26th,34th,38th

https://twitter.com/The_Dundonian/st...07355226394629
The_Dundonian
Honestly, that bloody Humza Yousaf making Scottish hospitals the best in the UK. How very dare he do such a good job? Bloody SNP doing things 100 times better than Labour in Wales and Tories in England

Think we have done well in the scale of things. There's nearly 2,000 hospitals in the UK.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...nited-kingdom/

I can only speak from my personal experience, I've had excellent care in the past at the Royal Infirmary. Just one example was I was due to have an op, I was gowned up and ready to be taken to theatre when the surgeon came out to speak to me personally to say they might have to cancel as he had just completed 2 back to back liver transplants. I was told they might be able to fit me in as they were assesing another patient who may not have been well enough to have surgery. He said I could wait and see or go home and they would reschedule. I decided to wait as I was all psyched up. They managed to operate that day, about 8 hours after the op when I was on the day bed ward the surgeon came to speak to me to check on how I was just before heading to a confernce in Europe. I sent him a letter afterwards to give him a photo of my barely noticeable scar to reassure future patients having the same op as the scarring is in an obvious place. He sent me a hand written note back. The level of dedication, time and genuine compassion he gave me was unbelievable. I googled him a while back, he now trains other consultants all over the UK.

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I was chatting yesterday to a pal who is an SNP member. They are enraged by what is happening.

I was a member until a couple of years ago when I had to cut my cloth significantly.

It is a disgrace things have come to this, and anyone found guilty of anything they should have the book thrown at them.

But in a society whos criminal justice system is built on the phrase "innocent until proven guilty", then I will suspend my judgement until then.

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I was chatting yesterday to a pal who is an SNP member. They are enraged by what is happening.

Funnily enough I've just been chatting to a Labour member who is enraged by what is happening to his party.

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I was a member until a couple of years ago when I had to cut my cloth significantly.

It is a disgrace things have come to this, and anyone found guilty of anything they should have the book thrown at them.

But in a society whos criminal justice system is built on the phrase "innocent until proven guilty", then I will suspend my judgement until then.

Yousaf has only deployed that phrase because the police action involves the SNP hierarchy (ie those who pulled out all the stops to get him elected). It didn't apply previously to less high profile colleagues. Michelle Thomson wasn't even arrested but was immediately suspended for being investigated by the police.

He's too scared to suspend them in case Sturgeon gets arrested.

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I did enjoy listening to Anas Sarwar showing up Yousaf at question time, Yousaf had the brass neck to suggest the Ferries are fine quoting statistics and saying new vessels are getting built. What really made me laugh was him suggesting that Sarwar using sound bites …coming from Mr Cliche and sound bite Humza that’s hilarious 😂

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I did enjoy listening to Anas Sarwar showing up Yousaf at question time, Yousaf had the brass neck to suggest the Ferries are fine quoting statistics and saying new vessels are getting built. What really made me laugh was him suggesting that Sarwar using sound bites …coming from Mr Cliche and sound bite Humza that’s hilarious

I missed it today but come on. Your surely not suggesting that Yousaf is worse than Sarwar for sound bites? Especially ones that don’t even cut through? Mr ‘not interested in leave or remain, yes or no’ or his latest ‘lame duck FM’. Sarwar is an empty vessel. We’ll have to wait a bit longer to find out if Yousaf is but it’s not even close between the two of them.


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I missed it today but come on. Your surely not suggesting that Yousaf is worse than Sarwar for sound bites? Especially ones that don’t even cut through? Mr ‘not interested in leave or remain, yes or no’ or his latest ‘lame duck FM’. Sarwar is an empty vessel. We’ll have to wait a bit longer to find out if Yousaf is but it’s not even close between the two of them.


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Your kidding surely, every time Yousaf Opens his mouth a pre rehearsed sound bite or rehearsed blame someone else, rolls out.

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I did enjoy listening to Anas Sarwar showing up Yousaf at question time, Yousaf had the brass neck to suggest the Ferries are fine quoting statistics and saying new vessels are getting built. What really made me laugh was him suggesting that Sarwar using sound bites …coming from Mr Cliche and sound bite Humza that’s hilarious 😂

He attacks the opposition for not providing solutions. I thought that was a Gov's job, with the opposition there to then scrutinise and question them on whether the solutions they implement have improved the situation.

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He attacks the opposition for not providing solutions. I thought that was a Gov's job, with the opposition there to then scrutinise and question them on whether the solutions they implement have improved the situation.

An alternative view would be that he offered to listen to other solutions from the third party of the parliament. None was forthcoming though.

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He attacks the opposition for not providing solutions. I thought that was a Gov's job, with the opposition there to then scrutinise and question them on whether the solutions they implement have improved the situation.

I hate PMQs and FMQs. Both pointless. PMQs is little more than theatrical insults dressed up as questions - or in the case of the SNP a chance to not even bother with a question, just make a mini speech about independence.

FMQs used to consist primarily of Sturgeon responding to pretty much any question with a variation of 'I won't be spoken to like that by a Tory/Labour/Lib Dem nonentity'. I'd imagine that as the continuity FM Yousaf will try to do similar.

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Not really followed this story much. Wonder if folks can help me with a few things.

Has it been established why the police needed to erect a blue forensic evidence tent on Sturgeon’s front lawn?

If the investigation has been going on two years, why are the police raiding addresses at 0700 in the morning? Is that in case those living at the addresses get wind of an impending raid and try and hide evidence? Maybe by burying in the front garden?

It seems a coincidence that the latest dawn raid would take place on the same day the new FM was to launch his premiership in parliament. Could they not have done it the day before, or after? Presumably it had to be done at that particular sunrise in case yon treasurer bloke buried evidence in his front garden?

Finally, does anyone have any idea what the charges will be? Maroon balloons across the city got away with borrowing money from themselves for years.

Cheers.

Good post

Like yourself, I haven't actively followed this story at all tbh (or politics more generally, since the Supreme Court farce before Xmas)

There may well be some wrong-doing within the SNP, however - I struggle to believe anyone can honestly say this isn't primarily a smear campaign in a desperate bid to derail independence, I mean the media coverage has been off the charts !!

As you've correctly detailed, arguably the most corrupt English government ever have done worse for years now, with far less media scrutiny and outrage

Sad state of affairs all round, but I guess this is just what happens when the press are firmly in the pockets of the nasty party