SNP are lying b******s as well !

[AgentDaleCooper]

has anyone been charged? is it possible that this investigation has been going on for two years and they haven't found anything really solid, so they're now just 'shaking the tree' in a final bid to see what falls out?

(not claiming that this is the case - I just saw someone on FB who is staunchly Labour and Unionist suggesting this was the case, having had dealings with the police in 'political' situations himself)

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[147lothian]

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has anyone been charged? is it possible that this investigation has been going on for two years and they haven't found anything really solid, so they're now just 'shaking the tree' in a final bid to see what falls out?

(not claiming that this is the case - I just saw someone on FB who is staunchly Labour and Unionist suggesting this was the case, having had dealings with the police in 'political' situations himself)

Two weeks after the arrest of the SNP chief executive, outside the home he shares with Nicola Sturgeon now the treasurer Colin Beatie, it looks like this won't be the last arrest, the point is that no is going to be arrested without reasonable grounds for an arrest.

The SNP has been a closed shop for a very long time, the first minister was of course married to the chief executive, Beattie's predecessor resigned because he said he wasn't getting the information he needed to do his job as party treasurer.

This all indicates that the SNP is corrupt and senior members have been using party funds for their own gain, it will all come out when the report is sent to the Procurator Fiscal.

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Two weeks after the arrest of the SNP chief executive, outside the home he shares with Nicola Sturgeon now the treasurer Colin Beatie, it looks like this won't be the last arrest, the point is that no is going to be arrested without reasonable grounds for an arrest.

The SNP has been a closed shop for a very long time, the first minister was of course married to the chief executive, Beattie's predecessor resigned because he said he wasn't getting the information he needed to do his job as party treasurer.

This all indicates that the SNP is corrupt and senior members have been using party funds for their own gain, it will all come out when the report is sent to the Procurator Fiscal.

That last paragraph. You must be deep inside the investigation to know that?


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Two weeks after the arrest of the SNP chief executive, outside the home he shares with Nicola Sturgeon now the treasurer Colin Beatie, it looks like this won't be the last arrest, the point is that no is going to be arrested without reasonable grounds for an arrest.

The SNP has been a closed shop for a very long time, the first minister was of course married to the chief executive, Beattie's predecessor resigned because he said he wasn't getting the information he needed to do his job as party treasurer.

This all indicates that the SNP is corrupt and senior members have been using party funds for their own gain, it will all come out when the report is sent to the Procurator Fiscal.

The last paragraph could get you into trouble. 😆

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That last paragraph. You must be deep inside the investigation to know that?


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I don't have to be inside the investigation to know that this is what it indicates, if of course the SNP has nothing to hide and there has been no corruption they will all be vindicated, we just have to wait until the report goes to the Prosecutor Fiscal.

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Two weeks after the arrest of the SNP chief executive, outside the home he shares with Nicola Sturgeon now the treasurer Colin Beatie, it looks like this won't be the last arrest, the point is that no is going to be arrested without reasonable grounds for an arrest.

The SNP has been a closed shop for a very long time, the first minister was of course married to the chief executive, Beattie's predecessor resigned because he said he wasn't getting the information he needed to do his job as party treasurer.

This all indicates that the SNP is corrupt and senior members have been using party funds for their own gain, it will all come out when the report is sent to the Procurator Fiscal.

Why use party funds to get a few Bob when they could have done the same as the torys and given millions in government contracts to their mates?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-65321409

Hard to take an in with the bricks Sturgeonite like Robison seriously when she claims the party needs to get its house in order. In fact it's hard to take her seriously full stop and I still find it hard to fathom Yousaf's thinking in giving her such a high profile government presence.

[superfurryhibby]

The story is unbelievable. I don't doubt that the Murrell-Sturgeon junta had far, far too much power within the SNP, but I can't imagine they would seek personal gain from financial wrong doing and party finances. It's smacks of stitch up and smear.

Fascinating to see how it unfolds and how damaging this will prove for the case for independence.

[Smartie]

Can anyone confirm - the £600k in question - was this the money donated by those Weir folk who won the lottery?

Was there anyone else involved?

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Can anyone confirm - the £600k in question - was this the money donated by those Weir folk who won the lottery?

Was there anyone else involved?

No.
It was raised on a stand-alone website designed to attract non SNP supporting Yes voters. And it stated the money would be ring-fenced.

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The story is unbelievable. I don't doubt that the Murrell-Sturgeon junta had far, far too much power within the SNP, but I can't imagine they would seek personal gain from financial wrong doing and party finances. It's smacks of stitch up and smear.

Fascinating to see how it unfolds and how damaging this will prove for the case for independence.

They live pretty modestly for a couple who would be in it for financial gain. I think the chances of that are very very remote.


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No.
It was raised on a stand-alone website designed to attract non SNP supporting Yes voters. And it stated the money would be ring-fenced.

Is there a link to that?


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[cabbageandribs1875]

jail time beckons

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Is there a link to that?


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The website was ref.Scot but it’s long gone now I think. i’m sure there will be screenshots etc available if you Google it.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/15...ce-referendum/

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The website was ref.Scot but it’s long gone now I think. i’m sure there will be screenshots etc available if you Google it.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/15...ce-referendum/

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An Electoral Commission spokeswoman said:" The Electoral Commission regulates the rules on political finance set out in the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (PPERA), including those relating to the permissibility and reporting of donations to political parties. The purposes for which parties seek, obtain and use the donations they have received are matters for that party"

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They live pretty modestly for a couple who would be in it for financial gain. I think the chances of that are very very remote.


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I've not really followed this thread and rarely watch news on tv (maybe wee bit on the radio). I'm amazed how much can pass me by in the world and I feel no loss for that.

So, why is this happening? How could Murrell allow himself to get into this position?

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Colin Beattie resigns as treasurer and all committees, saves Humza I suppose

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I've not really followed this thread and rarely watch news on tv (maybe we bit on the radio). I'm amazed how much can pass me by in the world and I feel no loss for that.

So, why is this happening? How could Murrell allow himself to get into this position?

It’s difficult to say what sort of situation he is in? For all we know he has done nothing illegal and the main problem is a lack of transparency in the party. That’s a party issue though and for them to sort out, not Police Scotland.


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Colin Beattie resigns as treasurer and all committees, saves Humza I suppose

Good, it’s a start. Hopefully it was Humza who instigated it.


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[makaveli1875]

Who will be under arrest next ? Sturgeon must surely be on the list

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It’s difficult to say what sort of situation he is in? For all we know he has done nothing illegal and the main problem is a lack of transparency in the party. That’s a party issue though and for them to sort out, not Police Scotland.


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What we do know is the police investigation started in 2021 and is ongoing. That tends not to happen with “party issues” does it? That suggests at least some suspicion of criminality. Still, they may not find the requisite evidence, we will just have to watch and read (across every media platform 😀) and see.

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What we do know is the police investigation started in 2021 and is ongoing. That tends not to happen with “party issues” does it? That suggests at least some suspicion of criminality. Still, they may not find the requisite evidence, we will just have to watch and read (across every media platform 😀) and see.

Beattie wouldn't have resigned for no reason.

Plenty more mileage in this sorry saga I suspect.

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Beattie wouldn't have resigned for no reason.

Plenty more mileage in this sorry saga I suspect.

He resigned for a reason. He is under investigation therefore he can’t do the role. Not difficult.


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What we do know is the police investigation started in 2021 and is ongoing. That tends not to happen with “party issues” does it? That suggests at least some suspicion of criminality. Still, they may not find the requisite evidence, we will just have to watch and read (across every media platform ) and see.

It’s only a party issue if the investigation stops is what I meant. If there are charges then that’s different.
Sure it’s fun for opposition supporters just now but eventually there will need to be a specific charge brought. Hopefully soon.
Long time till an election though.


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He resigned for a reason. He is under investigation therefore he can’t do the role. Not difficult.


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Nothing preventing him doing the role if he's not been charged or suspended. He was expected at Holyrood for a meeting today but sent his apologies.

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It’s only a party issue if the investigation stops is what I meant. If there are charges then that’s different.
Sure it’s fun for opposition supporters just now but eventually there will need to be a specific charge brought. Hopefully soon.
Long time till an election though.


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We can but hope for a resolution. It’s a farce that taxpayers’ money, our money, needs spent establishing whether these people are bent or not.

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Nothing preventing him doing the role if he's not been charged or suspended. He was expected at Holyrood for a meeting today but sent his apologies.

I think that would be pretty tough TBH. Given that the party appears to be adopting a no suspension policy (unlike before) it would look awful

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We can but hope for a resolution. It’s a farce that taxpayers’ money, our money, needs spent establishing whether these people are bent or not.

If they're bent then it's tax payers money well spent bringing them to justice, if they're not bent then questions need to be asked about how this investigation is being conducted.

Just out of interest, how many Tories have been arrested in connection to all the corruption accusations flying around?

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I think that would be pretty tough TBH. Given that the party appears to be adopting a no suspension policy (unlike before) it would look awful

The no suspension U-turn already looks awful. Basically if you were in Sturgeon's inner cabal you're innocent until proven guilty. If not you get suspended.