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    Trying hard to keep the greens happy when the the non hardcore element of the SNPs vote is looking more flimsy by the day.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    So the motor home parked at Murrell’s mum was actually the SNP Battle Bus https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/p...paign=sharebar
    you could not make this up
    Jose Mourinho probably parked it in their driveway. 😊

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    The battlebus I guess is plausible. You can pick so many holes in that thought but it could be true.

    It is odd that the cost of the battlebus is pretty much the same as the loan

    Yousaf has a big job on his hands now. Even bigger than the job he applied for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    The battlebus I guess is plausible. You can pick so many holes in that thought but it could be true.

    It is odd that the cost of the battlebus is pretty much the same as the loan

    Yousaf has a big job on his hands now. Even bigger than the job he applied for.
    His S35 legal challenge is going to push him further away from the voters he needs to connect with in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    The battlebus I guess is plausible. You can pick so many holes in that thought but it could be true.

    It is odd that the cost of the battlebus is pretty much the same as the loan

    Yousaf has a big job on his hands now. Even bigger than the job he applied for.
    Suggestions would be that PM lent the party the money to buy the bus, or bought it himself (in January, IIRC), and transferred the ownership later.

    I'm going for the latter, as the accounts suggest the cash for the bus purchase didn't come directly from the party.

    Again, nothing illegal there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Suggestions would be that PM lent the party the money to buy the bus, or bought it himself (in January, IIRC), and transferred the ownership later.

    I'm going for the latter, as the accounts suggest the cash for the bus purchase didn't come directly from the party.

    Again, nothing illegal there.
    It isn’t exactly normal practice though is it. And it appears very few we’re aware of this either. Or they are not admitting they were aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    It isn’t exactly normal practice though is it. And it appears very few we’re aware of this either. Or they are not admitting they were aware.
    It's fairly common tbf.

    I've no idea who knew.

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    SNP are lying b******s as well !

    So far, it’s shaping up much like the Salmond case. Lots of iffy behaviour but nothing that looks illegal.
    Hopefully it won’t have to go as far as that one did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    So far, it’s shaping up much like the Salmond case. Lots of iffy behaviour but nothing that looks illegal.
    Hopefully it won’t have to go as far as that one did.

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    Damage is done, as they say, no one notices the retraction in a newspaper.

    People think Salmond is sleazy now and will think Murrell/SNP were dodgy. Party would be better to distance from the past totally, an unbelievably poor 6 months and can't see a different trajectory the next 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    Damage is done, as they say, no one notices the retraction in a newspaper.

    People think Salmond is sleazy now and will think Murrell/SNP were dodgy. Party would be better to distance from the past totally, an unbelievably poor 6 months and can't see a different trajectory the next 6.
    To be fair Salmond was sleazy. He just should never have been near a court.
    Murrell has probably overstretched his authority. If he’s charged then it affects Sturgeon, if not she’ll ride it out.
    Next 6 months, it’s all about Yousaf. So far, I’m not hopeful. I think he was the 2nd best candidate and it showing. Forbes would have been better at unifying the party.


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    What are the charges so far? When will things come to trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    What are the charges so far? When will things come to trial?

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    Could be months I would think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Could be months I would think.


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    Until a trial or until whatever charges exist are pressed?

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    What are the charges so far? When will things come to trial?

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    Nowt. Doubt it will be this year, if it ever happens.

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    To be fair Salmond was sleazy. He just should never have been near a court.
    Murrell has probably overstretched his authority. If he’s charged then it affects Sturgeon, if not she’ll ride it out.
    Next 6 months, it’s all about Yousaf. So far, I’m not hopeful. I think he was the 2nd best candidate and it showing. Forbes would have been better at unifying the party.


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    Just got round to listening to the "Holyrood Sources" interview with KF. Not sure about unifying but I certainly think she would make a better job of running the government. It's a bloody shame she hadn't just gone to the regular Kirk instead of the Wee Frees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Just got round to listening to the "Holyrood Sources" interview with KF. Not sure about unifying but I certainly think she would make a better job of running the government. It's a bloody shame she hadn't just gone to the regular Kirk instead of the Wee Frees.
    I think she would have been smart enough to have kept Yousaf very close and rewarded him with a top job. Probably deputy FM.


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    https://twitter.com/buchananpost/sta...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    This is going to be a huge issue in next few months with potential for an SNP Green split.


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    According to Guido Fawkes - Unless a new auditor is found by May 31, the party’s Westminster Group faces losing £1.15 million in short money, which will be withdrawn under Commons rules until auditors sign off on the party accounts. Short money is the taxpayer cash given to opposition parties to pay staff wages and MP travel, which is only provided on the condition it is used “exclusively in relation to the party’s parliamentary business.” No auditor, no cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    This is going to be a huge issue in next few months with potential for an SNP Green split.


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    Our Islanders are already mightily hacked off at the Government because of the ferries situation where the aging fleet is causing real problems. The Greens look like much more of a liability than an asset to the SNP at the moment.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
    Digging gold from rock and roll
    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    According to Guido Fawkes - Unless a new auditor is found by May 31, the party’s Westminster Group faces losing £1.15 million in short money, which will be withdrawn under Commons rules until auditors sign off on the party accounts. Short money is the taxpayer cash given to opposition parties to pay staff wages and MP travel, which is only provided on the condition it is used “exclusively in relation to the party’s parliamentary business.” No auditor, no cash.
    That's enough for ten motorhomes.
    Every gimmick hungry yob,
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    Grabs the mic to tell us,
    He'll die before he's sold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinello59 View Post
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    That's enough for ten motorhomes.
    The new SNP fleet so instead of using a ferry you cab bed yourself down in a comfy camper

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    Quote Originally Posted by archie View Post
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    Genuine question. Do commentators here think that one of the issues around the recent SNP leadership contest is that it made public competing visions of what Scotland might look like, rather than the singular 'progressive' vision that has dominated in recent years? And might that have an impact?
    It's a good question... it shouldn't but there's always going to be be people who don't understand and indy Scotland isn't 'The SNP'

    Not sure how they can get that over to those that don't understand the difference.

    I still believe they (SNP) will likely win the honeymoon election but after that it's up for grabs and any party could have an impact on the future, he'll, even the Conservatives unchained from Westminster and able to show some integrity will do better than many think.

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    https://twitter.com/_kateforbes/stat...dxJXScFNwz8V4A

    Forbes retweets protest song about HPMA’s.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    It's fairly common tbf.

    I've no idea who knew.
    We now know that humza only found out after he became leader and apparently when he saw the police warrant to seize the asset.

    To be fair humza does appear to be honest and transparent about things right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    We now know that humza only found out after he became leader and apparently when he saw the police warrant to seize the asset.

    To be fair humza does appear to be honest and transparent about things right now.
    Constantly saying I don’t know what’s going on is not a good look for someone running the country though. He needs political advisors and a new press guy in very quickly. Right now, everyone in the SNP is just freelancing all over the place. He needs to get control sharpish.


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    I saw an interview with Geoff Aberdein recently and I warmed to the guy and thought he appeared to be someone who could do a good job.

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    Oh and I think humza has no choice as that’s the way snap we’re run and only now is he finding out. I give him some slack for a period to try and get his head around what he has taken on and see if he sorts it out.

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    Sorry for auto corrects

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skol View Post
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    Oh and I think humza has no choice as that’s the way snap we’re run and only now is he finding out. I give him some slack for a period to try and get his head around what he has taken on and see if he sorts it out.
    I agree, but he needs to start giving the impression he’s getting on top of it instead of reacting to each thing as it comes out. He should be starting to announce proper investigations and suspensions by now. No matter the police investigations, there was some bad business practises here and not just by Murrell. He needs to start cleaning house.


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