(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[J-C]

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1. Might be 2. Might be. 3. Evidence of the opposite - they got FPNs and Johnson is being held up for misleading Parliament. 4. Not evidence of corruption.

Jeez man you're a right staunch Tory, even to the point of denying everything that's obvious, I'll just skim your posts from now on as they're nonsense.

[archie]

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Jeez man you're a right staunch Tory, even to the point of denying everything that's obvious, I'll just skim your posts from now on as they're nonsense.

Clearly you haven't read my posts as, if you had, you would realise that 'staunch tory' couldn't be further from the truth. Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so. Which bit was 'nonsense' BTW?

[Kato]

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Clearly you haven't read my posts as, if you had, you would realise that 'staunch tory' couldn't be further from the truth. Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it so. Which bit was 'nonsense' BTW?

The VIP Lane was found to be illegal in a court of law.

Nothing material has come from that decision and no one has been held to account.

Explain how the corruption in these multiple cases is "might be".

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[grunt]

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The VIP Lane was found to be illegal in a court of law.

Nothing material has come from that decision and no one has been held to account.

Explain how the corruption in these multiple cases is "might be".

The bill for wasted / inadequate PPE is currently more than £14bn. That's £14bn of our money that people have received - many of them friends and family of Tory party MPs, members and donors - and we've had nothing in return. Tell me how that's not corruption in plain sight.

And people get exercised about the ferries.

[WhileTheChief..]

This is going to be really interesting watching it all unfold.

It'll take us right up to the election and the very real possibility that he will be up against Biden again.

Crazy to think that he's anywhere near the Republican nomination, let alone the favourite.

[JeMeSouviens]

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This is going to be really interesting watching it all unfold.

It'll take us right up to the election and the very real possibility that he will be up against Biden again.

Crazy to think that he's anywhere near the Republican nomination, let alone the favourite.

Heard some analysis by an American commentator on 5 live the other night. They reckoned this will rally his base and thus make him more likely to win the nomination but simultaneously be alienating swing voters and making him less likely to beat Biden. Biden is not exactly soaring in the popularity stakes himself, it's reckoned that Trump is the only Republican he'd probably beat.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Jeez man you're a right staunch Tory, even to the point of denying everything that's obvious, I'll just skim your posts from now on as they're nonsense.

I think archie is straddling the tricky divide of criticising the running of the British state by Tories but simultaneously defending the functioning of the British state because to suggest otherwise might lead to Scottish Indy.

"The car will be fine if we can just change the driver".

Ironically, the real Archie supported Yes.

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Westminster is only interested in protecting its own wealth. The people of Scotland must take charge of decisions regarding their own future.

Self-government, self-control and self-esteem - that is what independence will bring to Scotland.

[Stairway 2 7]

In Fahrenheit 11/9 Michael Moore showed the more negative press the better the polling for Trump, woke elites attacking Trump ect.

Sadly similar is happening this week as Trump has risen in the polls, 25 points ahead of Di Santis and leading Biden. Republicans also sadly odds on to win next year

[Ozyhibby]

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In Fahrenheit 11/9 Michael Moore showed the more negative press the better the polling for Trump, woke elites attacking Trump ect.

Sadly similar is happening this week as Trump has risen in the polls, 25 points ahead of Di Santis and leading Biden. Republicans also sadly odds on to win next year

The law is the law though. If he has broken it then he should be prosecuted.


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[Stairway 2 7]

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The law is the law though. If he has broken it then he should be prosecuted.


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No doubt about that, he definitely should

[Stairway 2 7]

Now under arrest. Will get finger prints but no mugshot boo

[archie]

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I think archie is straddling the tricky divide of criticising the running of the British state by Tories but simultaneously defending the functioning of the British state because to suggest otherwise might lead to Scottish Indy.

"The car will be fine if we can just change the driver".

Ironically, the real Archie supported Yes.

The real, real Archie here. Nothing tricky about it. Irrespective of the issue you guys raise the solution is always separation. I don't support a yes vote because I think it would be convulsive and seriously impact ordinary people. To be fair yes supporters here have acknowledged risk and pain with independence.

[Keith_M]

I thought this was supposed to be a thread about Trump?

[Glory Lurker]

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I thought this was supposed to be a thread about Trump?

Is it not about BBC bias?

[Smartie]

Trump is an absolute maniac.

A dangerous one.

I just hope enough of the 320 million Americans can see through this nonsense.

[hibsbollah]

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Is it not about BBC bias?

Nothing is ever on topic anymore.
Archie could make Donald Trump digress from his main points

[Stairway 2 7]

Hopefully a dead cat bounce but can see him definitely being nominated, will be harder against Biden, hopefully

“Trump leads with 51%, DeSantis 21%, Mike Pence 6%, Nikki Haley 4%, In our January survey, Trump led the field with 43%, and DeSantis was at 31%. Trump’s lead has gone from 12 points to 30 points” https://mclaughlinonline.com/2023/04...da-indictment/

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Hopefully a dead cat bounce but can see him definitely being nominated, will be harder against Biden, hopefully

“Trump leads with 51%, DeSantis 21%, Mike Pence 6%, Nikki Haley 4%, In our January survey, Trump led the field with 43%, and DeSantis was at 31%. Trump’s lead has gone from 12 points to 30 points” https://mclaughlinonline.com/2023/04...da-indictment/

In a nation of 300 million people, how earth can Grandpa Joe and Donald ****ing Trump be the only two candidates people can choose from? Its a nonsense.

[archie]

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In a nation of 300 million people, how earth can Grandpa Joe and Donald ****ing Trump be the only two candidates people can choose from? Its a nonsense.

How can the Bush family have had two presidents and a third member run and the Clinton's have one and another candidate in the last 40 years?

[JeMeSouviens]

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The real, real Archie here. Nothing tricky about it. Irrespective of the issue you guys raise the solution is always separation. I don't support a yes vote because I think it would be convulsive and seriously impact ordinary people. To be fair yes supporters here have acknowledged risk and pain with independence.

Sorry, for all I know you may be a lovely archie, but there's only one real Archie.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Hopefully a dead cat bounce but can see him definitely being nominated, will be harder against Biden, hopefully

“Trump leads with 51%, DeSantis 21%, Mike Pence 6%, Nikki Haley 4%, In our January survey, Trump led the field with 43%, and DeSantis was at 31%. Trump’s lead has gone from 12 points to 30 points” https://mclaughlinonline.com/2023/04...da-indictment/

If you want the Dems to win in the end, pray he does get nominated. Any other Republican will win easily.

[wookie70]

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If you want the Dems to win in the end, pray he does get nominated. Any other Republican will win easily.

That is my take too. Biden can't beat any of the others.

[archie]

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Sorry, for all I know you may be a lovely archie, but there's only one real Archie.

I am Archie!

[nonshinyfinish]

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How can the Bush family have had two presidents and a third member run and the Clinton's have one and another candidate in the last 40 years?

Here's a new leftfield candidate to freshen things up: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65197673

What?

Oh.

[heretoday]

And it's Trump v Kennedy in the race for the White House!

[Ozyhibby]

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And it's Trump v Kennedy in the race for the White House!

Zero chance that’s happening.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

seven years jail for this one Capitol rioter who crushed officer with shield gets prison (msn.com)

[Stairway 2 7]

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It’s well known De Santis had taken a less extreme position on abortion than others on that wing of the party. You obviously didn’t know that

Not as extreme, but pretty ******g extreme compared to pretty much anyone


A reup mate. De santis has just banned abortion Post 6 weeks, thats before a huge number even know they are pregnant. Rape and incest victims can get a waver but only after they have a police report and restraining order

He claimed the law would "defend the dignity of human life and transform Florida into a pro-family state

https://mobile.twitter.com/Imposter_Edits/status/1646995262743691266
Fascist Ron DeSantis has to remind the people he has forced to be around him as he signs the 6-week abortion bill to cheer. The bill forces underage victims of sex crimes to have paperwork before a medical emergency abortion

[hibsbollah]

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Not as extreme, but pretty ******g extreme compared to pretty much anyone


A reup mate. De santis has just banned abortion Post 6 weeks, thats before a huge number even know they are pregnant. Rape and incest victims can get a waver but only after they have a police report and restraining order

He claimed the law would "defend the dignity of human life and transform Florida into a pro-family state

https://mobile.twitter.com/Imposter_Edits/status/1646995262743691266
Fascist Ron DeSantis has to remind the people he has forced to be around him as he signs the 6-week abortion bill to cheer. The bill forces underage victims of sex crimes to have paperwork before a medical emergency abortion

Thanks, I haven’t been following political developments much this week. An interesting take from The Hill here. DeSantis is being dragged by the short and curlies on the issue, I don’t think he wants to fight it, and it’s far from clear in a VERY fractured state like Florida whether it’s a vote winner even amongst the GOP. (Also, it’s 15 weeks in cases of rape and incest, the areas where he’s taken a less extreme position than the religious right, because he knows THATs what hurt them electorally before, even for some of the nutters in the lunatic right wing fringe, lack of exemptions makes no sense). He’s a dangerous extremist no doubt about it of course.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3951097-desantis-abortion-2024-trump-roe-florida/amp/

[Stairway 2 7]

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Thanks, I haven’t been following political developments much this week. An interesting take from The Hill here. DeSantis is being dragged by the short and curlies on the issue, I don’t think he wants to fight it, and it’s far from clear in a VERY fractured state like Florida whether it’s a vote winner even amongst the GOP. (Also, it’s 15 weeks in cases of rape and incest, the areas where he’s taken a less extreme position than the religious right, because he knows THATs what hurt them electorally before, even for some of the nutters in the lunatic right wing fringe, lack of exemptions makes no sense). He’s a dangerous extremist no doubt about it of course.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3951097-desantis-abortion-2024-trump-roe-florida/amp/

It's worrying that someone you would think would have clout being in the running for president would be controlled by that group. Trump is a populist and I don't think cares about much but the second favourite seems in the pockets of fundamentalists.

Republicans are favourites for next year. Could we see abortion being illegal federally next year. It's scary. America really is knackered and I like large parts of it and many of its people