Tories are still lying *******s

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Latest WhatsApp story is a surprise, it was kept out the news thar eat out to help out was causing spread

https://mobile.twitter.com/devisridh...97624251592704

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Wow- UK govt & PM Sunak knew that Eat out to Help Out was causing a rise in cases but tried to keep its impact on a new wave quiet bc of the optics

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Latest WhatsApp story is a surprise, it was kept out the news thar eat out to help out was causing spread

https://mobile.twitter.com/devisridh...97624251592704

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Wow- UK govt & PM Sunak knew that Eat out to Help Out was causing a rise in cases but tried to keep its impact on a new wave quiet bc of the optics

No surprise at all.

Eat out to help out was a massive success. It was designed to get people out again and it did exactly that.

The fact it would inevitably lead to a spike in cases was obvious, and the fact the government tried to overlook that for optics is absolutely no surprise.

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Why did anybody ever think that Boris Johnson was a good idea?

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Why did anybody ever think that Boris Johnson was a good idea?

Sunday morning Laura Kuenssberg interviewing a Tory. Tory bloke says "I believe Boris is an honest man" - no further questions, no push back.

Interviewing a Labour bloke, "So what more could Labour have done during the pandemic?"

****** up really.

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Sunday morning Laura Kuenssberg interviewing a Tory. Tory bloke says "I believe Boris is an honest man" - no further questions, no push back.

Interviewing a Labour bloke, "So what more could Labour have done during the pandemic?"

****** up really.

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They were just looking for another "Corbyn wears the wrong socks" headline.

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Wonder how much dirt his old man must have on him.

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Wonder how much dirt his old man must have on him.

If that's the criteria he's going to have to make a last minute bid to get jennifer arcuri on the throne before the coronation.

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Caligula and his horse vibes

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Sunday morning Laura Kuenssberg interviewing a Tory. Tory bloke says "I believe Boris is an honest man" - no further questions, no push back.

Interviewing a Labour bloke, "So what more could Labour have done during the pandemic?"

****** up really.

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Chris Heaton-Harris MP is the Tory bloke to whom you refer. He's Secretary of state for N.Ireland and a sleekit individual if ever there was one.
He was on Sky before the BBC interview and more or less repeated his performance. I thought Laura did OK. It was obvious the guy was talking tosh about Boris' integrity.

Sometimes you have to let the action speak for itself.

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If that's the criteria he's going to have to make a last minute bid to get jennifer arcuri on the throne before the coronation.

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I would suspect that he has a fair amount of dirt on her as well.

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Chris Heaton-Harris MP is the Tory bloke to whom you refer. He's Secretary of state for N.Ireland and a sleekit individual if ever there was one.
He was on Sky before the BBC interview and more or less repeated his performance. I thought Laura did OK. It was obvious the guy was talking tosh about Boris' integrity.

Sometimes you have to let the action speak for itself.

There are more than a few examples of the ex-Pm's lies she could have given him, I didn't notice any push back at all. Compared to the previous week when Stephen Flynn called him out as a liar and Kuenssberg interjected with "That's quite a charge." He's probably the best known liar in the UK just now but the BBC seem to have difficulty seeing this.

They also spoke as though it were the lies he told about his parties at No10 which brought him down. It wasn't, it was a whole other set of lies.

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Caligula and his horse vibes

Of course for tales of Caligula’s debauchery and licentiousness, we rely on the writings of Suetonius.

In Johnson’s case we rely on Sue Gray.

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Of course for tales of Caligula’s debauchery and licentiousness, we rely on the writings of Suetonius.

In Johnson’s case we rely on Sue Gray.

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Storage costs for unused PPE & equipment since the start of the pandemic have hit £1.4bn.

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Storage costs for unused PPE & equipment since the start of the pandemic have hit £1.4bn.

World Beating Britain.

No one else buys up, stores then incinerates useless PPE like us.

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World Beating Britain.

No one else buys up, stores then incinerates useless PPE like us.

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I'm not one for defending the Tories, but what would you have done. They secured PPE that fortunately wasn't needed. Isn't that better than situations where we needed it and couldn't get it?

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I'm not one for defending the Tories, but what would you have done. They secured PPE that fortunately wasn't needed. Isn't that better than situations where we needed it and couldn't get it?

They bought multiple times what could possibly be needed because they got all excited about how much of the country's money they found they could funnel to their friends. If you want to discuss scandals, the corrupt and venal Tories' Covid PPE scandal is up there with the worst. *Edit to add: much of the PPE purchased from Tory friends and family was substandard and could not be used / would not have protected our healthcare workers.

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They bought multiple times what could possibly be needed because they got all excited about how much of the country's money they found they could funnel to their friends. If you want to discuss scandals, the corrupt and venal Tories' Covid PPE scandal is up there with the worst.

If that's the case it is indefensible.

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I'm not one for defending the Tories,

Errm, ok.

but what would you have done.?

Prioritised companies with a history of procuring PPE and used some due diligence rather than prioritised a VIP Fast Track lane which had zero due diligence and was subsequently found to be illegal.

They secured PPE that fortunately wasn't needed.

Seems like you are a tad wanting in the information stakes on this one, archie.

They secured PPE that was unusable. Which is why it is being burned.

It was no good, duff, dodgy, snide, counterfeit.

Isn't that better than situations where we needed it and couldn't get it?

It would've been great if we got a bargain. Instead we are lumbered with having to pay for the cost, pay for the storage while it's waiting to get burned and paying for it getting burned. Meanwhile Michelle Mone has a new yacht paid for by us with nothing in return.



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Errm, ok.



Prioritised companies with a history of procuring PPE and used some due diligence rather than prioritised a VIP Fast Track lane which had zero due diligence and was subsequently found to be illegal.




Seems like you are a tad wanting in the information stakes on this one, archie.

They secured PPE that was unusable. Which is why it is being burned.

It was no good, duff, dodgy, snide, counterfeit.





It would've been great if we got a bargain. Instead we are lumbered with having to pay for the cost, pay for the storage while it's waiting to get burned and paying for it getting burned. Meanwhile Michelle Mone has a new yacht paid for by us with nothing in return.



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I'm not defending any of that. I think it is at least reasonable to examine a range of motivations, rather than immediately assume the venal.

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I'm not defending any of that. I think it is at least reasonable to examine a range of motivations, rather than immediately assume the venal.

To be fair, we've had a couple of years now to consider the range of motivations.

An automatic assumption of the venal might have been unfair at the time.

But by now? I think there's enough out there to suggest it was all a bit ropey.

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To be fair, we've had a couple of years now to consider the range of motivations.

An automatic assumption of the venal might have been unfair at the time.

But by now? I think there's enough out there to suggest it was all a bit ropey.

I think the panic and need for speed may well have given opportunity.

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I'm not defending any of that. I think it is at least reasonable to examine a range of motivations, rather than immediately assume the venal.

I used to do that regarding Tories. Then, once I hit ten years old, the penny dropped.

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I think the panic and need for speed may well have given opportunity.

Political connections ie cronyism gave the opportunity.

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They bought multiple times what could possibly be needed because they got all excited about how much of the country's money they found they could funnel to their friends. If you want to discuss scandals, the corrupt and venal Tories' Covid PPE scandal is up there with the worst. *Edit to add: much of the PPE purchased from Tory friends and family was substandard and could not be used / would not have protected our healthcare workers.

Be interesting to know which companies are profiting from said storage, and if it's an open ended arrangement.

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Political connections ie cronyism gave the opportunity.

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So there was no panic and need for speed.

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So there was no panic and need for speed.

No need for panic. A govt that invokes panic or panics itself is useless.

Of course we needed items quickly, I'm struggling to see where I said differently.

Things could have been sped up if they hadn't ignored valid companies with experience, in favour of their chums with no experience at all.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.m...d-24175698.amp

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[Kato]

This article dates from before the existence of a VIP Fast Lane was known.

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/...te-to-make-ppe

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They secured PPE that fortunately wasn't needed.

An interesting assertion.

Do you have a source which explains this, archie?

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