SNP are lying b******s as well !

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That's what was said Scotland is 2k per person better off. No one said each person is 2k better off as that's just stupid. Some will be more some less it's pretty simple stuff to be fair and it's epic it's had this many posts

Next 4 years my eldest will bugger off to uni so he’ll be £9k a year better off. Plus his free bus pass. Plus a load of other things.
An unemployed single mum of two kids will be £2k better off in cash terms living in Scotland rather than England. That’s before all the other things she will benefit from.
Scottish govt does very well at providing public services. Where it lacks a bit is in having an economic plan for growth. I know most of that is reserved but there are still things that can be done. It’s the reason I wanted Forbes to run because I think she understands this. Hopefully she can turn things around but miles to go.


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Next 4 years my eldest will bugger off to uni so he’ll be £9k a year better off. Plus his free bus pass. Plus a load of other things.
An unemployed single mum of two kids will be £2k better off in cash terms living in Scotland rather than England. That’s before all the other things she will benefit from.
Scottish govt does very well at providing public services. Where it lacks a bit is in having an economic plan for growth. I know most of that is reserved but there are still things that can be done. It’s the reason I wanted Forbes to run because I think she understands this. Hopefully she can turn things around but miles to go.


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Yep as I said the snp have chose to do things the tories wouldn't dream of with the money, like tuition, free nursery hours, more ivf opportunity, bus passes ect ect.

We would go further independent and I agree that has to come from growth. We have huge potential for growth too with an appetite for immigration, eu membership and on the road to a renewable energy society.

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What's made up?

I get annoyed at myself responding to trolls so much but this will be my last to you on this matter.

As you well know, if you’d put that he had said “failed to achieve a sustained majority for independence” I could just about take you seriously.

But as you also know, in her time as first minister of Scotland it wasn’t her job to just get a sustained majority for independence.

Goodnight.

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I get annoyed at myself responding to trolls so much but this will be my last to you on this matter.

As you well know, if you’d put that he had said “failed to achieve a sustained majority for independence” I could just about take you seriously.

But as you also know, in her time as first minister of Scotland it wasn’t her job to just get a sustained majority for independence.

Goodnight.

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I know, I know. I’ve managed for so long without though!

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I get annoyed at myself responding to trolls so much but this will be my last to you on this matter.

As you well know, if you’d put that he had said “failed to achieve a sustained majority for independence” I could just about take you seriously.

But as you also know, in her time as first minister of Scotland it wasn’t her job to just get a sustained majority for independence.

Goodnight.

Really? I thought it was Nicola Sturgeons as leader of the SNP job to increase support for Independence. If it's not her job who's is it?

The last week has been a real eye opener I am betting. Wait until the TV debates start.

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Yet you seem to reply to my posts but just not directly. 🤣

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Really? I thought it was Nicola Sturgeons as leader of the SNP job to increase support for Independence. If it's not her job who's is it?

The last week has been a real eye opener I am betting. Wait until the TV debates start.

I thought her job was to "get on with the day job"?

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Next 4 years my eldest will bugger off to uni so he’ll be £9k a year better off. Plus his free bus pass. Plus a load of other things.
An unemployed single mum of two kids will be £2k better off in cash terms living in Scotland rather than England. That’s before all the other things she will benefit from.
Scottish govt does very well at providing public services. Where it lacks a bit is in having an economic plan for growth. I know most of that is reserved but there are still things that can be done. It’s the reason I wanted Forbes to run because I think she understands this. Hopefully she can turn things around but miles to go.


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What a great advert for devolution and allowing Scotland to make different choices. So many benefits you list.

The Sustainable Growth Commission plan was produced, the clue is in the name. It was dropped without much fanfare though.

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I thought her job was to "get on with the day job"?

And to surely increase support for Indy? Would you say it's not Rishi Sunak job to increase support for the Tories?

Are we now questioning if it's the job of the leader of the SNP to increase support for Independence? Really?

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And to surely increase support for Indy? Would you say it's not Rishi Sunak job to increase support for the Tories?

Are we now questioning if it's the job of the leader of the SNP to increase support for Independence? Really?

It was her job to increase support for the SNP and I don't think anybody in their right mind would talk down her electoral success in that regard.

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It was her job to increase support for the SNP and I don't think anybody in their right mind would talk down her electoral success in that regard.

Well actually.... support for the SNP measured as vote share % has been about the same and if measured against 2015 it's been down ever since.

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Well actually.... support for the SNP measured as vote share % has been about the same and if measured against 2015 it's been down ever since.

I'd say she done pretty well to keep it this high for so long. You may think you can criticise her over multiple things, but this isn't one of them. Best to move on.

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I'd say she done pretty well to keep it this high for so long. You may think you can criticise her over multiple things, but this isn't one of them. Best to move on.

She kept on winning elections that is true. And the opposition in Scotland has been truly awful and still is apart from a few who just cut the mustard.

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She kept on winning elections that is true. And the opposition in Scotland has been truly awful and still is apart from a few who just cut the mustard.

Not sure who they even are tbh.

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Good work by Edinburgh SNP councilor Marco biagi hopefully he can get it through. A council tax increase that rises the higher the band

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarcoGBia...00129946914816

Edinburgh Council Tax to increase 5%. The Labour manifesto pledge to build 25,000 council house over 10 years has been reduced to 200.

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build 25,000 council house over 10 years .

Who were they trying kid with that one?

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Edinburgh Council Tax to increase 5%. The Labour manifesto pledge to build 25,000 council house over 10 years has been reduced to 200.

That's a ****ing disgrace. A relatively modest 2,500 houses a year for a decade and its been reduced to 20 a year? Are you sure that's right? It would take a very special cocktail of toxic morons to have engineered that. Oh wait, the ****ing Greens are involved..

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That's a ****ing disgrace. A relatively modest 2,500 houses a year for a decade and its been reduced to 20 a year? Are you sure that's right? It would take a very special cocktail of toxic morons to have engineered that. Oh wait, the ****ing Greens are involved..

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-house-3622541

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https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...-house-3622541

It wasn't the 25,000 homes I was doubting, that's a decent if modest target over a decade. It was the reduction to 200. There must have been some serious deliberate political vandalism taking place across parties who profess to be left of centre for that to have been the outcome.

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Vote green get tory, brutal

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It wasn't the 25,000 homes I was doubting, that's a decent if modest target over a decade. It was the reduction to 200. There must have been some serious deliberate political vandalism taking place across parties who profess to be left of centre for that to have been the outcome.

Can't remember where I read it, it was something to do with making tough decisions to protect the education services from cuts. Can you have a gander just in case I got that figure wrong, I'm happy to admit I have done that before.

Edit - Found it, thankfully. An extract from a long article in the Herald. You're correct, it was tactical voting by the Greens that led to budget proposals by the Lib Dems being voted through. So, I probably misled posters with my wording suggesting it was Labour who dropped the pledge. Apologies for that.



Included in the budget is a Labour proposal to effectively end building council homes despite pledging to construct 25,000 over a ten-year period in the party’s manifesto.
The budget allows for just 200 more homes to be built by the council over 10 years.

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Vote green get tory, brutal

Vote anybody, get tory. The UK in a nutshell.

[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/scotland/teachin...t-for-new-deal

It’s a start.


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https://news.stv.tv/scotland/teachin...t-for-new-deal

It’s a start.


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I thought you said unless England paid their teachers more the strikes would continue, looks like the SG can negotiate after all.

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I thought you said unless England paid their teachers more the strikes would continue, looks like the SG can negotiate after all.

The SG unlike Westminster have continued to negotiate with the teachers and the NHS staff, it's what responsible governments do.

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The SG unlike Westminster have continued to negotiate with the teachers and the NHS staff, it's what responsible governments do.

But the line was there was no more money and that money would only become available if England paid their teachers more. Obviously not the case.

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But the line was there was no more money and that money would only become available if England paid their teachers more. Obviously not the case.

There's always money to find, it sometimes just means other people somewhere may lose out, there's no bottomless pot of money and it's sometimes about deferring increases. So they give 5% now with a promise of a further 3% to be added to next year, obviously these figures are just my way of explaining and nothing like what they are getting.

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The SG unlike Westminster have continued to negotiate with the teachers and the NHS staff, it's what responsible governments do.

They forced the workers in to strike action whilst the money was there all along. That’s not what responsible employers do.

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They forced the workers in to strike action whilst the money was there all along. That’s not what responsible employers do.

The money wasn't there all along. It will be getting pulling from somewhere else in the immediate term. The SNP are likely anticipating an increase in the block grant not too long from now.