SNP are lying b******s as well !

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"Per person" is what was said and continues to be said, despite being misleading at best. Scotland also has more of an ageing population which is due in part to migration towards Scotland by residents across other parts of the UK who choose Scotland as their retirement location, which inevitably puts more pressure on the Scottish NHS, requiring a higher level of funding overall for our population share.

The Czech Republic drinks the most beer per person in Europe, but wait my mate Pavel from Prague doesn't even drink so that can't be right.

I commend you for continuing to back one of the daftest shouts on hibs.net

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The Czech Republic drinks the most beer per person in Europe, but wait my mate Pavel from Prague doesn't even drink so that can't be right.

I commend you for continuing to back one of the daftest shouts on hibs.net

I'm not really sure how that in anyway ties into the point i've been making. Do the Czech's get free/subsidized beer or something? Is your mate Pavel out of pocket as a result of his beer free lifestyle?

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The Czech Republic drinks the most beer per person in Europe, but wait my mate Pavel from Prague doesn't even drink so that can't be right.

I commend you for continuing to back one of the daftest shouts on hibs.net

Pavel from Prague, I thought it was funny 🤣

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"Per person" is what was said and continues to be said, despite being misleading at best. Scotland also has more of an ageing population which is due in part to migration towards Scotland by residents across other parts of the UK who choose Scotland as their retirement location, which inevitably puts more pressure on the Scottish NHS, requiring a higher level of funding overall for our population share.

per person is a variant of saying ‘on average’, it’s not misleading at all, you’re poking holes by saying you aren’t 2k better off, as if that’s a fair measure. As your life progresses, you will probably need more and more nhs care, when that care surpasses 2k a year do you think you should be billed for it? Of course not, as society collectively bears that cost, in terms of national insurance and in the current climate in Scotland, Barnett. 2k more per person is spent by the Scottish government, whether each of us gets a personal gain from that isn’t the point, it’s there and spent. I highly doubt I get advantage of every possible thing that the 2k per person buys, then again it’s unlikely there’s a great deal of people who do. We all get benefits in different ways, through council funds from scotgov, nhs treatments, to other more targeted methods such as tuition or childcare. Some of those will change over each of our lives as our lives change, but we all get some benefits from it over the piece.

There’s nothing in Barnett about the average age of the population, so saying that we require a greater level of funding sounds like a Tory/better together soundbite, which from what I’ve seen you posting, is the opposite of your political position (apologies if I’ve misunderstood your position).

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per person is a variant of saying ‘on average’, it’s not misleading at all, you’re poking holes by saying you aren’t 2k better off, as if that’s a fair measure. As your life progresses, you will probably need more and more nhs care, when that care surpasses 2k a year do you think you should be billed for it? Of course not, as society collectively bears that cost, in terms of national insurance and in the current climate in Scotland, Barnett. 2k more per person is spent by the Scottish government, whether each of us gets a personal gain from that isn’t the point, it’s there and spent. I highly doubt I get advantage of every possible thing that the 2k per person buys, then again it’s unlikely there’s a great deal of people who do. We all get benefits in different ways, through council funds from scotgov, nhs treatments, to other more targeted methods such as tuition or childcare. Some of those will change over each of our lives as our lives change, but we all get some benefits from it over the piece.

There’s nothing in Barnett about the average age of the population, so saying that we require a greater level of funding sounds like a Tory/better together soundbite, which from what I’ve seen you posting, is the opposite of your political position (apologies if I’ve misunderstood your position).

As my life progresses, there's no guarantee that things will be the same as they are now. There may not even be an NHS by then, or even a pension. I can only go by how things are right now and how they relate to my own person circumstances. Claiming that each person in Scotland is 2K better off is misleading. I'm not 2K better off right now and there's no guarantee that I will be in the future either.

But like I said, i'm not complaining that I don't benefit from it. It's the statement itself that's the problem. It simply isn't accurate.

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There’s nothing in Barnett about the average age of the population, so saying that we require a greater level of funding sounds like a Tory/better together soundbite, which from what I’ve seen you posting, is the opposite of your political position (apologies if I’ve misunderstood your position).

I know there isn't. But it doesn't make the point any less relevant.

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"Humza Yousaf accepts there is no 'sustained majority' for independence.

SNP leadership candidate says 'anybody that comes to this campaign' suggesting 'we can get independence tomorrow' is 'not being honest'"

Humza admitting the Nicola Sturgeon years were a failure.

Of course we heard for years Scotland was a prisoner in the Union, being held hostage was the phrase used a number of times but it was all fiction as there was never ever a sustained majority for Independence.

I wonder how he will measure this sustained majority though?

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"Humza Yousaf accepts there is no 'sustained majority' for independence.

SNP leadership candidate says 'anybody that comes to this campaign' suggesting 'we can get independence tomorrow' is 'not being honest'"

Humza admitting the Nicola Sturgeon years were a failure.

Of course we heard for years Scotland was a prisoner in the Union, being held hostage was the phrase used a number of times but it was all fiction as there was never ever a sustained majority for Independence.

I wonder how he will measure this sustained majority though?

As I said yesterday humza is the top snp mps choice to continue the gravy train and why Kate is getting battered in the media and by certain people in the party.

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"Humza Yousaf accepts there is no 'sustained majority' for independence.

SNP leadership candidate says 'anybody that comes to this campaign' suggesting 'we can get independence tomorrow' is 'not being honest'"

Humza admitting the Nicola Sturgeon years were a failure.

Of course we heard for years Scotland was a prisoner in the Union, being held hostage was the phrase used a number of times but it was all fiction as there was never ever a sustained majority for Independence.

I wonder how he will measure this sustained majority though?

More spin than your average washing machine

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More spin than your average washing machine

More desperate slavering at this stage in my opinion, but agree with the sentiment.

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Humza admitting the Nicola Sturgeon years were a failure.

I wonder how he will measure this sustained majority though?

I almost admire the fact you don’t get bored of making up ridiculous stuff to fuel your unhealthy obsession.

Probably through the polls that are allowed by you.

[Berwickhibby]

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Natalie McGarry fails in her appeal… so it’s official she is a thief

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More desperate slavering at this stage in my opinion, but agree with the sentiment.

How is it slavering?

Humza is saying there is no sustained majority for Independence? That's his words, not mine. Are you saying he is wrong? I reckon you aren't so you probably think he is right yes?

So if he is right and you agree with him that there is no sustained majority for Independence you need to look at why that is the case? Who has been responsible for driving support for Independence the last 8 years? Well it's been the soon to be ex leader of the SNP, so has she been a success in delivering any kind of progress towards Independence? No she hasn't so in that respect she has been a failure.

Indy supporters are going to have to start facing reality. Reality is hitting you hard at the moment with the absolute binfire of a leadership contest that's going on.

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I almost admire the fact you don’t get bored of making up ridiculous stuff to fuel your unhealthy obsession.

Probably through the polls that are allowed by you.

What's made up?

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Natalie McGarry fails in her appeal… so it’s official she is a thief

I wonder how much of that £25,000 found it's way into the pocket of her Conservative Councillor husband David Meikle.

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I wonder how much of that £25,000 found it's way into the pocket of her Conservative Councillor husband David Meikle.

🤷*♂️ no idea but if he is also a thief he needs jailed. But nothing like a wee bit deflection

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��*♂️ no idea but if he is also a thief he needs jailed. But nothing like a wee bit deflection

Boris Johnson stole from the public when he handed PPE contracts to his friends rather than more capable businesses. He stole from the public again when tax payers money was used to throw lockdown parties at Downing Street and who knows where else.

Why isn't he in Jail?

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As I said yesterday humza is the top snp mps choice to continue the gravy train and why Kate is getting battered in the media and by certain people in the party.

do you not think it could also have something to do with not wanting to normalise and legitimise bigotry?

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Boris Johnson stole from the public when he handed PPE contracts to his friends rather than more capable businesses. He stole from the public again when tax payers money was used to throw lockdown parties at Downing Street and who knows where else.

Why isn't he in Jail?

The enquiry into the PPE contracts is still in going …plus it was Hancock not Bozo 🤡 who handed those out. As for parties at Downing Street, they were dealt with by fixed penalty notice and if you recall the emails said bring your own bottle. But let’s do anything to deflect that McGarry stole from funds she was responsible for.

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Boris Johnson stole from the public when he handed PPE contracts to his friends rather than more capable businesses. He stole from the public again when tax payers money was used to throw lockdown parties at Downing Street and who knows where else.

Why isn't he in Jail?

thats different. says not a jot about the billions stolen by tories and westminster but gets a wee semi over 25k cause its the snp.

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The enquiry into the PPE contracts is still in going …plus it was Hancock not Bozo �� who handed those out. As for parties at Downing Street, they were dealt with by fixed penalty notice and if you recall the emails said bring your own bottle. But let’s do anything to deflect that McGarry stole from funds she was responsible for.

As Mayor, he raided the public purse to purchase illegal water cannons with the intention of using them on the public...

He then raided the public purse again to have them melted down as scrap.

He then continued on as if nothing happened. As did the MET along with Keir Starmer as Directer of Public Prosecutions.

I suppose that enquiry is still on going as well.

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As Mayor, he raided the public purse to purchase illegal water cannons with the intention of using them on the public...

He then raided the public purse again to have them melted down as scrap.

He then continued on as if nothing happened. As did the MET along with Keir Starmer as Directer of Public Prosecutions.

I suppose that enquiry is still on going as well.

Water cannons are not illegal, and they were certainly a public order tool back when Bozo 🤡 ordered them whilst Mayor of London. Teresa May as Home Secretary in 2015 decided that they should not be used in the UK .

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Water cannons are not illegal, and they were certainly a public order tool back when Bozo 🤡 ordered them whilst Mayor of London. Teresa May as Home Secretary in 2015 decided that they should not be used in the UK .

Perhaps not. But the German vehicles themselves couldn't be used on UK roads. Leaving the tax payer over £300,000 out of pocket. Not that i'm not glad that they weren't used. But the MET sat back and did nothing, as did Keir Starmer.

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Perhaps not. But the German vehicles themselves couldn't be used on UK roads. Leaving the tax payer over £300,000 out of pocket. Not that i'm not glad that they weren't used. But the MET sat back and did nothing, as did Keir Starmer.

Why would the Met or Sir Keir Starmer do something about the Mayor of London lawfully purchasing something which was agreed by the GLC.

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Why would the Met or Sir Keir Starmer do something about the Mayor of London lawfully purchasing something which was agreed by the GLC.

I presume you mean the GLA? The GLC was dissolved in 86. The GLA was under Conservative control at the time. They allowed the purchase, despite the vehicles not even being usable on UK roads. So if anything, they should have been under investigation for the misuse of public funds as well.

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Were water cannon ever licensed, by the Home Secretary, for use in the UK?

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Were water cannon ever licensed, by the Home Secretary, for use in the UK?

They were available and used for training but I do not think they were ever deployed.

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As my life progresses, there's no guarantee that things will be the same as they are now. There may not even be an NHS by then, or even a pension. I can only go by how things are right now and how they relate to my own person circumstances. Claiming that each person in Scotland is 2K better off is misleading. I'm not 2K better off right now and there's no guarantee that I will be in the future either.

But like I said, i'm not complaining that I don't benefit from it. It's the statement itself that's the problem. It simply isn't accurate.



I know there isn't. But it doesn't make the point any less relevant.

in regards the future, yeah that’s fair, I’m not a lot older than you and I think the world we live in will look quite differently by the time I and you get to that stage of life.

I also take your point as characterised re. 2k (not being wide), I think the wording could be clearer. To say Scotland is 2k per person better off is probably a better way of describing it.

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The enquiry into the PPE contracts is still in going …plus it was Hancock not Bozo who handed those out. As for parties at Downing Street, they were dealt with by fixed penalty notice and if you recall the emails said bring your own bottle. But let’s do anything to deflect that McGarry stole from funds she was responsible for.

How is it deflecting to point out that one theif has been caught but many are still on the loose?

Hope she and all of her ilk get jail time.

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How is it deflecting to point out that one theif has been caught but many are still on the loose?

Hope she and all of her ilk get jail time.

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Agreed

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in regards the future, yeah that’s fair, I’m not a lot older than you and I think the world we live in will look quite differently by the time I and you get to that stage of life.

I also take your point as characterised re. 2k (not being wide), I think the wording could be clearer. To say Scotland is 2k per person better off is probably a better way of describing it.

That's what was said Scotland is 2k per person better off. No one said each person is 2k better off as that's just stupid. Some will be more some less it's pretty simple stuff to be fair and it's epic it's had this many posts