Sportscene 22/23

[JimBHibees]

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People don't like MS because he's honest and he doesn't care if his opinion upsets anyone.

A couple of months ago, Hibs were having a purple patch & he was saying he still wasn't convinced by Hibs - he was bang on - we went on a horrendous run.
His view if the red card isn't anti-Hibs - just the way he sees it & no different to some of our own support.

Some folk need to get off the paranoia tablets and accept there are different views to their own that may be valid and aren't down to an anti-Hibs, pro-Hearts conspiracy.

I have always liked Stewart however seems to be a change in his analysis think his opinions are very emotionally driven he couldn't stand Levein and clearly likes Robbie which imo factors into his views. Don't think I have heard him say anything remotely critical about Hearts this season and has appeared to fit in well with the BBC Gorgie love in especially around the European games. His analysis after Hibs excellent win v Aberdeen was frankly weird imo with no credit given whatsoever. Neilson has done many things this season to attract a least some criticism but his mate Micky has imo struggled to give any. Still one of my favourite pundits though.

[Greenbeard]

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Stewart's been like that for a while in my opinion. Makes me think I only liked him when they had Levein charge cause he hates Levein more than anything else.

Think Stewart is a bit of a walloper now

Thinks he's the bees' knees when he's a wee wasp that stings at every opportunity and needs swatting away.
Anyone got an industrial size jam jar that can be smeared in Jam Tart sauce round the rim and filled with cruddy water for him to fall into?

[BILLYHIBS]

I meant to say I just FF to the last game ( Hibs ) and listen to why we never got decisions this week

Not really interested in the bum cheeks or any other Scottish teams tbh

[gbhibby]

I watch it on IPlayer and fast forward through the analysis so have to listen to the cr##.

[Carheenlea]

Couldn’t tell you the last time I watched Sportscene in its entirety. I just use the BBC highlights on the app which often do the job for any game in particular I’d like to see. I packed it in after realising there was as much pundit chat (probably more..) than that of the actual football coverage which is ultimately what folk are tuning in to view?

Would watch Sportscene religiously when hosted and commentated by Archie McPherson, and it was pretty much all football with extended coverage of one game. You’d watch then gather your own opinion of what you’d witnessed rather than be lectured to by a team of ex pros in bad shirts like what is the standard football show model of today.

[hibsbollah]

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Couldn’t tell you the last time I watched Sportscene in its entirety. I just use the BBC highlights on the app which often do the job for any game in particular I’d like to see. I packed it in after realising there was as much pundit chat (probably more..) than that of the actual football coverage which is ultimately what folk are tuning in to view?

Would watch Sportscene religiously when hosted and commentated by Archie McPherson, and it was pretty much all football with extended coverage of one game. You’d watch then gather your own opinion of what you’d witnessed rather than be lectured to by a team of ex pros in bad shirts like what is the standard football show model of today.

Less analysis, more action please. It’s really not that difficult.

[Tyler Durden]

The thing that annoys me about Mikey Stewart in recent years is his ignorance of the laws of the game.

He still talks about whether handballs are deliberate. His analysis of stuff like the Livvy red card at the weekend focused on whether Jason Holt meant to hurt Nisbet…. None of that really matters now. It’s a bit pointless telling us if he thinks something shouldn’t be a yellow/red if his view completely ignores the current laws.

[RyeSloan]

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Less analysis, more action please. It’s really not that difficult.

Depends on the quality of analysis I suppose.

Sportscene tends to be a few random opinions that don’t amount to much and rarely reaches a level that could be described as analysis.

At least MOTD does some half decent break down of the plays and the tactics on occasion.

[blackpoolhibs]

Just listening to the Celtic manager saying he can see what LJ is trying to do, he can see an identity and a philosophy at Easter Road, maybe Michael Stewart should have a chat with him to put him right.

[GreenGray]

https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1612397534802251780?s=20&t=kSVaDAUgvdWKID0dy5_98g

Another example of the BBC slamming Porteous.

The fact that the BBC have created a new "VARdict" show solely focusing on VAR decisions just shows how pathetic the hysteria over referring decisions has become in Scotland and the modern game. VAR was meant to end these conversations but now we have a show dedicated to them!

If pundits spent less time over analysing every single decision would we have VAR now? I highly doubt it. Referees will make mistakes it is impossible for them to get everything right, if VAR helped them get everything right I would almost understand the need for it, but it clearly doesn't.

The BBC should spend less time doing this and spend more time discussing why Rangers are the only team yet to concede a penalty all season and why the vast majority of Premiership refs come from Glasgow.

Rant over.

[Alfred E Newman]

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https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1612397534802251780?s=20&t=kSVaDAUgvdWKID0dy5_98g

Another example of the BBC slamming Porteous.

The fact that the BBC have created a new "VARdict" show solely focusing on VAR decisions just shows how pathetic the hysteria over referring decisions has become in Scotland and the modern game. VAR was meant to end these conversations but now we have a show dedicated to them!

If pundits spent less time over analysing every single decision would we have VAR now? I highly doubt it. Referees will make mistakes it is impossible for them to get everything right, if VAR helped them get everything right I would almost understand the need for it, but it clearly doesn't.

The BBC should spend less time doing this and spend more time discussing why Rangers are the only team yet to concede a penalty all season and why the vast majority of Premiership refs come from Glasgow.

Rant over.

I thought they were full of praise for Porteous last night? They were even praising him for his professional foul in the last minute which took the guy out and stopped a possible equaliser.
It made me wonder if he is heading for Ibrox!

[Jim44]

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I thought they were full of praise for Porteous last night? They were even praising him for his professional foul in the last minute which took the guy out and stopped a possible equaliser.
It made me wonder if he is heading for Ibrox!

The Sky commentators and pundits used complimentary terms and language to describe how the game was going, because they had no option. However the tone, enthusiasm and liveliness was just not there and their commentary was flat. When Motherwell were showing progress and scoring their goals, you could easily detect a lift of enthusiasm and expectation in their voices. Call me paranoid but ……. !

[HibbyKeith]

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https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1612397534802251780?s=20&t=kSVaDAUgvdWKID0dy5_98g

Another example of the BBC slamming Porteous.

The fact that the BBC have created a new "VARdict" show solely focusing on VAR decisions just shows how pathetic the hysteria over referring decisions has become in Scotland and the modern game. VAR was meant to end these conversations but now we have a show dedicated to them!

If pundits spent less time over analysing every single decision would we have VAR now? I highly doubt it. Referees will make mistakes it is impossible for them to get everything right, if VAR helped them get everything right I would almost understand the need for it, but it clearly doesn't.

The BBC should spend less time doing this and spend more time discussing why Rangers are the only team yet to concede a penalty all season and why the vast majority of Premiership refs come from Glasgow.

Rant over.

Conor Goldson has got to be in with a shout for goalkeeper of the month. Hope they're talking about that on their ***** show.

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[greenlex]

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Depends on the quality of analysis I suppose.

Sportscene tends to be a few random opinions that don’t amount to much and rarely reaches a level that could be described as analysis.

At least MOTD does some half decent break down of the plays and the tactics on occasion.

We need pundits with higher football IQs IMO.

[Smartie]

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The Sky commentators and pundits used complimentary terms and language to describe how the game was going, because they had no option. However the tone, enthusiasm and liveliness was just not there and their commentary was flat. When Motherwell were showing progress and scoring their goals, you could easily detect a lift of enthusiasm and expectation in their voices. Call me paranoid but ……. !

Was James McFadden not the co-commentator?

As a fan of the national side, and one who was in Paris that time he scored the winner, I'm prepared to cut him a wee bit of slack if he's not exactly neutral when it comes to providing punditry on a game involving his team.

Funny how it can drive you mad at times but not really bother you at others.

[Allant1981]

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https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1612397534802251780?s=20&t=kSVaDAUgvdWKID0dy5_98g

Another example of the BBC slamming Porteous.

The fact that the BBC have created a new "VARdict" show solely focusing on VAR decisions just shows how pathetic the hysteria over referring decisions has become in Scotland and the modern game. VAR was meant to end these conversations but now we have a show dedicated to them!

If pundits spent less time over analysing every single decision would we have VAR now? I highly doubt it. Referees will make mistakes it is impossible for them to get everything right, if VAR helped them get everything right I would almost understand the need for it, but it clearly doesn't.

The BBC should spend less time doing this and spend more time discussing why Rangers are the only team yet to concede a penalty all season and why the vast majority of Premiership refs come from Glasgow.

Rant over.

To be fair, if a player had done that to one of our players we would have been raging that there was no foul given

[GreenGray]

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To be fair, if a player had done that to one of our players we would have been raging that there was no foul given

Probably, that wasn’t even the main point of my post tbf, it’s just embarrassing that they have a show dedicated to this imo. And this is the clip that they use to promote it.


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[JimBHibees]

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Probably, that wasn’t even the main point of my post tbf, it’s just embarrassing that they have a show dedicated to this imo. And this is the clip that they use to promote it.


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Yep bizarre they would highlight that pretty much none incident which happens in every game over a genuinely controversial var check. Tortuous agenda

[Trinity Hibee]

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https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1612397534802251780?s=20&t=kSVaDAUgvdWKID0dy5_98g

Another example of the BBC slamming Porteous.

The fact that the BBC have created a new "VARdict" show solely focusing on VAR decisions just shows how pathetic the hysteria over referring decisions has become in Scotland and the modern game. VAR was meant to end these conversations but now we have a show dedicated to them!

If pundits spent less time over analysing every single decision would we have VAR now? I highly doubt it. Referees will make mistakes it is impossible for them to get everything right, if VAR helped them get everything right I would almost understand the need for it, but it clearly doesn't.

The BBC should spend less time doing this and spend more time discussing why Rangers are the only team yet to concede a penalty all season and why the vast majority of Premiership refs come from Glasgow.

Rant over.

Remember these ‘pundits’ have very little knowledge to convey on sportscene. No impartiality when speaking about clubs. It’s become trending to jump on certain players all the time and at the moment that is Porteous

[matty_f]

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https://twitter.com/BBCSportScot/status/1612397534802251780?s=20&t=kSVaDAUgvdWKID0dy5_98g

Another example of the BBC slamming Porteous.

The fact that the BBC have created a new "VARdict" show solely focusing on VAR decisions just shows how pathetic the hysteria over referring decisions has become in Scotland and the modern game. VAR was meant to end these conversations but now we have a show dedicated to them!

If pundits spent less time over analysing every single decision would we have VAR now? I highly doubt it. Referees will make mistakes it is impossible for them to get everything right, if VAR helped them get everything right I would almost understand the need for it, but it clearly doesn't.

The BBC should spend less time doing this and spend more time discussing why Rangers are the only team yet to concede a penalty all season and why the vast majority of Premiership refs come from Glasgow.

Rant over.

The only valid reason I could see for using that clip is that they wanted to educate folk on why VAR didn't/couldn't intervene and so turn down feelings of injustice about it.

To that end, it was a good example - folk would definitely question how VAR missed it, so that's it explained.

[where'stheslope]

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Remember these ‘pundits’ have very little knowledge to convey on sportscene. No impartiality when speaking about clubs. It’s become trending to jump on certain players all the time and at the moment that is Porteous

Not sure I agree on Sunday's performance of Porteous, in this one game he could easily have cost us the 3rd goal by falling down holding his face.
Then OK he trips the Motherwell player on the way in to clear from Van Veen, but it would be melt down on here if it happened against us and nothing given!!!
He seems to bring it on himself at times, and when he gets caught out, this place thinks he's been hard done too???

[JimBHibees]

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Not sure I agree on Sunday's performance of Porteous, in this one game he could easily have cost us the 3rd goal by falling down holding his face.
Then OK he trips the Motherwell player on the way in to clear from Van Veen, but it would be melt down on here if it happened against us and nothing given!!!
He seems to bring it on himself at times, and when he gets caught out, this place thinks he's been hard done too???

Think he had a clear head knock and it was ridiculous the ref never stopped the game

[where'stheslope]

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Think he had a clear head knock and it was ridiculous the ref never stopped the game

Quick recovery time to celebrate the goal, to my mind means he faked it again I'm afraid!!!

[GreenGray]

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Quick recovery time to celebrate the goal, to my mind means he faked it again I'm afraid!!!

Players up and down the country do this to get games stopped. Weird take from yourself when it helped us see out a win


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[where'stheslope]

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Players up and down the country do this to get games stopped. Weird take from yourself when it helped us see out a win


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Not weird when it could have also cost us the win if play was stopped!!!

[Oscar T Grouch]

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Quick recovery time to celebrate the goal, to my mind means he faked it again I'm afraid!!!

Except it was a clear head knock, got a forearm into the back of the head. So the reaction may have been overstated it was not fake.

[where'stheslope]

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Except it was a clear head knock, got a forearm into the back of the head. So the reaction may have been overstated it was not fake.

Looking at the replays it looks more like a forearm in the back rather than head.
But, I still feel his feigning a head knock could have cost us the 3rd goal?

[Oscar T Grouch]

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Looking at the replays it looks more like a forearm in the back rather than head.
But, I still feel his feigning a head knock could have cost us the 3rd goal?

Isn't VAR meant to look at the play leading to the goal for anything the ref missed? In which case the imaginary 3rd goal would not stand?

[where'stheslope]

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Isn't VAR meant to look at the play leading to the goal for anything the ref missed? In which case the imaginary 3rd goal would not stand?

Just watched the incident again on bbc website, and his head was never hit.
VAR is only called upon if a goal is scored or ref misses something or gets an incident or player wrong.

[JimBHibees]

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Quick recovery time to celebrate the goal, to my mind means he faked it again I'm afraid!!!

Not at all definitely got a knock to the head. Referee was pathetic as clearly outlined by McFadden on co commentary