Tories are still lying *******s

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Public Order Bill

Can you imagine? Going to a protest, (it could be as inoccuous as fans congregate outside a ground demanding the sacking of an unpopular manager, theoretically). You are then put on a list controlling where you can and can't go, who you can and can't associate with, you have to wear a tag. There's no legal process. Its extrajudicial.

Just to be clear and to the people who think "we are still better than most other countries so don't worry", the Chinese do this is Xinjiang to the Uighurs, and there is more right to protest in Iran. I suppose its true that you have no rights at all to protest in Pyongyang, but is that where we set the bar these days?

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Can you imagine? Going to a protest, (it could be as inoccuous as fans congregate outside a ground demanding the sacking of an unpopular manager, theoretically). You are then put on a list controlling where you can and can't go, who you can and can't associate with, you have to wear a tag. There's no legal process. Its extrajudicial.

Just to be clear and to the people who think "we are still better than most other countries so don't worry", the Chinese do this is Xinjiang to the Uighurs, and there is more right to protest in Iran. You have no rights at all to protest in Pyongyang, but is that where we set the bar these days?

I imagine Greta Thunburg comes under the legislation for marching to COP26

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I imagine Greta Thunburg comes under the legislation for marching to COP26

and could a picket line also be classified as 'a protest'?

[Killiehibbie]

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Public Order Bill

I can see a few cases going to court and this unjust act being binned

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I can see a few cases going to court and this unjust act being binned

Cases don't go to court any more in England & Wales. Four year waiting list for cases to be heard.

[JeMeSouviens]

PMQ's - mega cringe.

I mean it's nice to bash the Tories but this is just an embarrassment.

[Ozyhibby]

Pensioners should be worried as she has just committed to keeping the triple lock.


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PMQ's - mega cringe.

I mean it's nice to bash the Tories but this is just an embarrassment.

Between Starmer and Blackford that was an evisceration. Plenty of one liners that will make the news, a trap set and bait taken, rapturous back benches.

[MartinfaePorty]

'Militant' getting trawled out again as their preferred epithet for trade unions. Make no mistake, if they could they would make them illegal or at least neuter them into a state of powerlessness.

[JeMeSouviens]

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Pensioners should be worried as she has just committed to keeping the triple lock.


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The triple lock that Hunt refused to commit to on Monday.

[hibsbollah]

Tories that dont want fracking have been told its the equivalent of a confidence motion in the government tonight, 3 line whip. So fracking, with all those gas company donations flowing into Tory coffers, is now as firm a Govt policy as support for Ukraine, or the royal family, or capitalism. But they fought the 2017 election on the exact opposite policy. Zac Goldsmith will be turning in his grave (coughcough), i mean, life peerage. Lancashire with quite a few Red Wall new Tory MPS, will be the guinea pig. Dont drink the water oop there.

[Just Alf]

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I can see a few cases going to court and this unjust act being binned

Agreed.. what gets me is that a party in the UK even considers implementing something like this in the first place.

[Ozyhibby]

https://twitter.com/peston/status/15...mFwrFBaxmyA1hg

Not getting any easier for her.


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Tories that dont want fracking have been told its the equivalent of a confidence motion in the government tonight, 3 line whip. So fracking, with all those gas company donations flowing into Tory coffers, is now as firm a Govt policy as support for Ukraine, or the royal family, or capitalism. But they fought the 2017 election on the exact opposite policy. Zac Goldsmith will be turning in his grave (coughcough), i mean, life peerage. Lancashire with quite a few Red Wall new Tory MPS, will be the guinea pig. Dont drink the water oop there.

Who's driving the fracking thing? Is it Rees Mogg or is this a personal Truss thing? It's bizarre: it's been tried, it doesn't work well in UK geology and the public hate it. Why would you push on given the current omnishambles?

Same with the solar farms thing but the opposite way round. It's just plain weird bad politics.

[overdrive]

Cruella Braverman sacked as Home Secretary

Edit: link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tary-liz-truss

Grant 20 Names Shapps looks like the replacement

Edit: sorry looks like resigned

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tary-liz-truss

Braverman gone.


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Cruella Braverman sacked as Home Secretary

Sacked? Or resigned?

[overdrive]

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Sacked? Or resigned?

Sorry, looks like she resigned. Didn't read far enough down

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Actually, weirdly, the same Guardian article on my phone has a different paragraph in the middle of it to what appears on my laptop. One says she was sacked, one implies she resigned.

[Bostonhibby]

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Tories that dont want fracking have been told its the equivalent of a confidence motion in the government tonight, 3 line whip. So fracking, with all those gas company donations flowing into Tory coffers, is now as firm a Govt policy as support for Ukraine, or the royal family, or capitalism. But they fought the 2017 election on the exact opposite policy. Zac Goldsmith will be turning in his grave (coughcough), i mean, life peerage. Lancashire with quite a few Red Wall new Tory MPS, will be the guinea pig. Dont drink the water oop there.

Some decent potential fracking sites in and around Sussex, just saying like.

The model is much more likely to be people who trouser the profits from fracking live there whilst the actual drilling is much further north.

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[bringbackbenny]

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tary-liz-truss

Braverman gone.


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https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1582755650672525313?t=jfdo7OeubPSyRNZtUhwG2g&s=19

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😆 bizarre. Coalition of chaos 1 - cruella 0

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tary-liz-truss

Braverman gone.


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Going to set up an even Nastier Party? Daily flights to Rwanda for creatures who see that as their ideal xmas break?

Let's not forget who appointed her.

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[Stairway 2 7]

The tories are basically triggers broom

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Sorry, looks like she resigned. Didn't read far enough down

I wasn't criticising you, I think it's genuinely unclear. Peston is saying she was asked to resign. So in my book that's both sacked and resigned, with sacked in the lead at 52%.

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Sacked? Or resigned?

Sent to Rwanda. 😊

[Moulin Yarns]

Another Tory MP has said that he no longer supports Liz Truss as prime minister.

William Wragg says he has written to Graham Brady to say he has no confidence in the PM.

Brady is the chair of the 1922 committee of backbench Conservative MPs, and he's the person who collects letters from his fellow Tory MPs who want the PM to go.

Under Conservative Party rules, Truss is safe from a confidence vote for a year after entering office - but the rules could be changed, theoretically, if enough MPs want it.

Wragg said he wanted to vote with Labour on this evening's motion on fracking - but couldn't as he didn't want to be suspended from the parliamentary Tory party (known as losing the whip).

The government has told Tory MPs that they must not vote with Labour on the motion.

Wragg said in the Commons that he didn't want to lose the whip - or indeed his own position as vice-chair of the 1922 committee - as the letter he has sent to Brady would no longer count

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The revolving door is working overtime

[Andy Bee]

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Another Tory MP has said that he no longer supports Liz Truss as prime minister.

William Wragg says he has written to Graham Brady to say he has no confidence in the PM.

Brady is the chair of the 1922 committee of backbench Conservative MPs, and he's the person who collects letters from his fellow Tory MPs who want the PM to go.

Under Conservative Party rules, Truss is safe from a confidence vote for a year after entering office - but the rules could be changed, theoretically, if enough MPs want it.

Wragg said he wanted to vote with Labour on this evening's motion on fracking - but couldn't as he didn't want to be suspended from the parliamentary Tory party (known as losing the whip).

The government has told Tory MPs that they must not vote with Labour on the motion.

Wragg said in the Commons that he didn't want to lose the whip - or indeed his own position as vice-chair of the 1922 committee - as the letter he has sent to Brady would no longer count

IIRC the rules are for PM's who have beaten a no confidence vote, they can't face another vote for a year. Truss is a new PM so doesn't qualify as that.

[Stairway 2 7]

Hard to keep up. There would be uproar if a bowling club was ran like this

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Tory MPs absolutely incredulous that they're being told they will lose the whip if they don't vote for the fracking motion which breaks the 2019 Tory manifesto.

And I don't get the impression chief whip Wendy Morton has good answers to obvious questions