2022-23 season non-Hibs games thread

[ShetlandHibby]

Porto was immense tonight. Played so well with no nonsense in his head. Outshone only by hickey who was unreal. The lad is an amazing player who’ll definitely be at a top top club soon.

[plhibs]

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Commentators who aren't Scottish absolutely heaping praise on Porteous.

Yes i watched it on DAZN, two English sounding commentators and both were heaping praise on Porto and Hickey. One of them said it was a superb tackle by Porto, not a chance it was a penalty.

[Sir David Gray]

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Thing that jumps out to me , is with a bit of luck we could end up with a group A league of teams that aint much stronger than some if the teams we could have in group B.. All about the luck of the draw i suppose

I don't believe it's a free draw amongst the 16 teams.

The 16 sides are divided into 4 pots and one team from each pot are placed into the 4 groups.

Based on how it looks just now I think our "easiest" draw would be;

Croatia
Hungary
Poland
Scotland

Hardest probably;

Spain
Belgium
France
Scotland

[McSwanky]

Remember Iceland and all the praise that was heaped on them a few years back? Got the long term plan right, facilities spot on etc etc. Why can't we be more like them blah blah.

Relegated to the third tier tonight whilst we go up to the top table.

Maybe just a flash in the pan after all.

[Donegal Hibby]

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Pat Nevin gushing about Ryan's performance. Sportsound at half time at their usual concentrating on Ryan and being critical about his positional sense, cannae help themselves.

I was watching Ireland match so I wouldn't have picked up on this but did any of you pick up on blunder premier sports done on your team line up ?

[Hibbyradge]

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Remember Iceland and all the praise that was heaped on them a few years back? Got the long term plan right, facilities spot on etc etc. Why can't we be more like them blah blah.

Relegated to the third tier tonight whilst we go up to the top table.

Maybe just a flash in the pan after all.

Yes, I think we probably are.

[Gloucester Hibs]

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I don't believe it's a free draw amongst the 16 teams.

The 16 sides are divided into 4 pots and one team from each pot are placed into the 4 groups.

Based on how it looks just now I think our "easiest" draw would be;

Croatia
Hungary
Poland
Scotland

Hardest probably;

Spain
Belgium
France
Scotland

UEFA Nations League 2024 draw pots (one from each in group)

League A

POT 1
🇳🇱 Netherlands
🇭🇷 Croatia
🇪🇸 Spain
🇮🇹 Italy

POT 2
🇩🇰 Denmark
🇵🇹 Portugal
🇧🇪 Belgium
🇭🇺 Hungary

POT 3
🇨🇭 Switzerland
🇩🇪 Germany
🇵🇱 Poland
🇫🇷 France

POT 4
🇮🇱 Israel
🇧🇦 Bosnia
🇷🇸 Serbia
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Scotland

[Sir David Gray]

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UEFA Nations League 2024 draw pots (one from each in group)

League A

POT 1
🇳🇱 Netherlands
🇭🇷 Croatia
🇪🇸 Spain
🇮🇹 Italy

POT 2
🇩🇰 Denmark
🇵🇹 Portugal
🇧🇪 Belgium
🇭🇺 Hungary

POT 3
🇨🇭 Switzerland
🇩🇪 Germany
🇵🇱 Poland
🇫🇷 France

POT 4
🇮🇱 Israel
🇧🇦 Bosnia
🇷🇸 Serbia
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Scotland

It's going to be a real step up in class for Scotland and if we're being honest it's hard to see us avoiding relegation straight back to League B.

It's still nice to see us involved at the top table of European football though and hopefully it can help us qualify for Euro 2024.

[hibsbollah]

When you think Tierney Hanley and Robertson were out, all automatic first choices, you add Ryan, Jack Hendry also excellent last night and Hickey outstanding, you really start to think we have a defence that should be able to compete with the top international sides. I can’t remember a defence with so much talent and depth. That Kingsley chap might even get an occasional 5 minute cameo if he behaves

[BILLYHIBS]

Maybe Porto stays and we sign Jack Hendry to partner him in defence as they looked a really good team?





Please excuse crayon as they don’t allow sharp objects in here

[McSwanky]

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Yes, I think we probably are.

I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere

[SHODAN]

Let's not kid ourselves here, it'll be a massive achievement for us to avoid relegation.

Don't really care though; we can enjoy it while it's here. And if last time was anything to go by we're practically guaranteed a playoff place for the 2026 World Cup, too.

[Sylar]

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Because the referee blew for the penalty before it went out of play.

I meant to come back to say thanks for clarifying this because I was utterly confused. There have been numerous instances where a foul has occurred, ball has gone out for a corner, player has been told to 'hold up' taking the corner while VAR checks it, and if it doesn't result in a penalty the corner continues. That was the basis I was working on but didn't clock the ref blew before the ball crossed the line. Quite unfair IMO as it removed any advantage for Scotland, but I appreciate someone explaining it.

[Sir David Gray]

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Let's not kid ourselves here, it'll be a massive achievement for us to avoid relegation.

Don't really care though; we can enjoy it while it's here. And if last time was anything to go by we're practically guaranteed a playoff place for the 2026 World Cup, too.

Yep win our Nations League group (unlikely) or finish in the top two of our qualification group (more likely) and we're into the play offs.

[Stairway 2 7]

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Yep win our Nations League group (unlikely) or finish in the top two of our qualification group (more likely) and we're into the play offs.

Is top two that qualify? A decent draw and we have a huge chance then

[Sir David Gray]

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Is top two that qualify? A decent draw and we have a huge chance then

Group winners qualify automatically, runners up go into the play offs alongside the best two Nations League sides who haven't qualified automatically/got into the play offs through their qualifying group.

[Bobby's Cinema]

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It's going to be a real step up in class for Scotland and if we're being honest it's hard to see us avoiding relegation straight back to League B.

It's still nice to see us involved at the top table of European football though and hopefully it can help us qualify for Euro 2024.

We can just enjoy the ride. But the belief we have at the moment there's no reason why we can't pick up a decent result or two in the home games that may be enough. We showed that v Denmark.

I'm not sure its a direct correlation but Wales finished bottom of the nations league group and were still in Pot 2 for the next qualifiers, would that automatically be the case with us anyway were we relegated?

[SHODAN]

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We can just enjoy the ride. But the belief we have at the moment there's no reason why we can't pick up a decent result or two in the home games that may be enough. We showed that v Denmark.

I'm not sure its a direct correlation but Wales finished bottom of the nations league group and were still in Pot 2 for the next qualifiers, would that automatically be the case with us anyway were we relegated?

Yes. We should be pot 2 for a while now.

[Sir David Gray]

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Yes. We should be pot 2 for a while now.

That's far from guaranteed unfortunately.

For the World Cup qualifiers in 2026 it will be based on the world rankings at November 2024 (we'll need to be ranked as one of the top 20 European teams at that time to be in pot 1 or 2).

For Euro 2028 qualifiers it will be based on our performance in the 2026/27 Nations League, we'll likely be back in League B of the Nations League by then so it will depend on how we get on in that.

Wales were in League A of the Nations League so it was easier for them to be in pot 2 this time round.

[GreenGray]

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It's going to be a real step up in class for Scotland and if we're being honest it's hard to see us avoiding relegation straight back to League B.

It's still nice to see us involved at the top table of European football though and hopefully it can help us qualify for Euro 2024.

Main thing about last night was getting into pot 2 and the play offs a fall back.


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[SHODAN]

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That's far from guaranteed unfortunately.

For the World Cup qualifiers in 2026 it will be based on the world rankings at November 2024 (we'll need to be ranked as one of the top 20 European teams at that time to be in pot 1 or 2).

For Euro 2028 qualifiers it will be based on our performance in the 2026/27 Nations League, we'll likely be back in League B of the Nations League by then so it will depend on how we get on in that.

Wales were in League A of the Nations League so it was easier for them to be in pot 2 this time round.

I thought the NL had superseded the FIFA rankings now as far as UEFA were concerned?

[Sir David Gray]

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I thought the NL had superseded the FIFA rankings now as far as UEFA were concerned?

As far as I'm aware that's only for the Euros, I believe the World Cup qualifiers are determined by the world rankings as at the November prior to when the qualifiers begin.

That's certainly what happened for the 2022 World Cup, it was based on the rankings in November 2020.

[Hibbyradge]

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I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere

Wasted on people who take themselves too seriously, though.

[Ryan91]

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Group winners qualify automatically, runners up go into the play offs alongside the best two Nations League sides who haven't qualified automatically/got into the play offs through their qualifying group.

Top two teams from each of the 10 Qualifying Groups will auto qualify

[McSwanky]

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Wasted on people who take themselves too seriously, though.

It was a serious point. But you'd need to know me to know if I'm taking myself too seriously or not. I'll leave it there.

[Hibbyradge]

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It was a serious point. But you'd need to know me to know if I'm taking myself too seriously or not. I'll leave it there.

Yes, I got the point about Iceland. I made a mild joke about Scotland.

[Sir David Gray]

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Top two teams from each of the 10 Qualifying Groups will auto qualify

That can't be correct as only 16 European sides qualify for the World Cup in 2026.

[J-C]

TBH I'm totally perplexed about who we have to play, when we play them, where we stand after all the games played and how we can still qualify. I'll just watch the games until someone says hard lines Scotland/well done Scotland.

[Tommy75]

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Remember Iceland and all the praise that was heaped on them a few years back? Got the long term plan right, facilities spot on etc etc. Why can't we be more like them blah blah.

Relegated to the third tier tonight whilst we go up to the top table.

Maybe just a flash in the pan after all.

Maybe they were a flash in the pan but they did reach the quarter finals of the Euros. Far more than Scotland has ever achieved.

Lets not get too carried away, we seem to be on an upward trajectory but until we are consistently qualifying for tournaments and actually giving a good account of ourselves when we get there, the feet should remain firmly on the ground.

[Sir David Gray]

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TBH I'm totally perplexed about who we have to play, when we play them, where we stand after all the games played and how we can still qualify. I'll just watch the games until someone says hard lines Scotland/well done Scotland.

Our draw last night guarantees us at least a play off for Euro 2024. This play off (if required) will take place in March 2024 and we will play a semi final and then (if we win) a final to then qualify for the tournament.

However we can avoid a play off altogether by qualifying directly from our qualification group and to do that we need to finish in the top two of our group which runs from March - November 2023 and the draw is made next week. We'll be in pot 2 for this so in theory we should be looking to qualify automatically.