Brexit - What Now.

[heretoday]

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Where are posters defending Brexit? Not one.

There was a fair percentage of folk in Scotland who voted leave but they've been keeping their heads down.
I know one guy who wants Scotland to be entirely independent even of the EU or EFTA!
Takes all sorts.

[hibsbollah]

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There was a fair percentage of folk in Scotland who voted leave but they've been keeping their heads down.
I know one guy who wants Scotland to be entirely independent even of the EU or EFTA!
Takes all sorts.

There’s a solid 20% who just don’t like immigrants, either culturally or economically. That was the essence of Brexit for some voters and those people up here OR down south will continue to support it from that standpoint (whether they care if these immigrants are now coming from outside the EU or from the EU itself depends on the individual xénophobe, I suppose). There are just as many of these people in Scotland as there is in England, polling shows.

https://www.bl.uk/britishlibrary/~/media/bl/global/social-welfare/pdfs/non-secure/d/o/s/do-scotland-and-england-and-wales-have-different-views-about-immigration-18.pdf

[lapsedhibee]

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There’s a solid 20% who just don’t like immigrants, either culturally or economically. That was the essence of Brexit for some voters and those people up here OR down south will continue to support it from that standpoint (whether they care if these immigrants are now coming from outside the EU or from the EU itself depends on the individual xénophobe, I suppose). There are just as many of these people in Scotland as there is in England, polling shows.

https://www.bl.uk/britishlibrary/~/m...gration-18.pdf

Good article.
My conclusion: Most of the people in Scotland who say that immigration is bad for the economy are just saying that to spite wee nippy who bangs on all the time about it being not just good, but necessary, for Scotland's economy.

[Hibrandenburg]

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There’s a solid 20% who just don’t like immigrants, either culturally or economically. That was the essence of Brexit for some voters and those people up here OR down south will continue to support it from that standpoint (whether they care if these immigrants are now coming from outside the EU or from the EU itself depends on the individual xénophobe, I suppose). There are just as many of these people in Scotland as there is in England, polling shows.

https://www.bl.uk/britishlibrary/~/media/bl/global/social-welfare/pdfs/non-secure/d/o/s/do-scotland-and-england-and-wales-have-different-views-about-immigration-18.pdf

I don't think it was ever in doubt that Scotland has just as many racists as England per head. The difference is the attitude of the majority towards than minority is what makes Scotland different imo.

[hibsbollah]

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I don't think it was ever in doubt that Scotland has just as many racists as England per head. The difference is the attitude of the majority towards than minority is what makes Scotland different imo.

Do you mean you think there are a higher proportion of the 80% willing to positively and actively embrace immigration and welcome immigrants compared to Englands 80%?

[Stairway 2 7]

Very interesting thread on British immigration attitudes from the FT

https://mobile.twitter.com/jburnmurd...606273?lang=en

jburnmurdoch
NEW: for this week’s column I dug into the curious case of British attitudes to immigration

Before the EU ref, concern about immigration tracked levels of arrivals. Since then, immigration has kept rising but concerns have evaporated

What’s going on?

[lapsedhibee]

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Very interesting thread on British immigration attitudes from the FT

https://mobile.twitter.com/jburnmurd...606273?lang=en

jburnmurdoch
NEW: for this week’s column I dug into the curious case of British attitudes to immigration

Before the EU ref, concern about immigration tracked levels of arrivals. Since then, immigration has kept rising but concerns have evaporated

What’s going on?

Farage is no longer on BBC flagship current affairs programmes every few days lying about it?

[Kato]

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Very interesting thread on British immigration attitudes from the FT

https://mobile.twitter.com/jburnmurd...606273?lang=en

jburnmurdoch
NEW: for this week’s column I dug into the curious case of British attitudes to immigration

Before the EU ref, concern about immigration tracked levels of arrivals. Since then, immigration has kept rising but concerns have evaporated

What’s going on?

Gaslighting is expensive and takes time. No backers now brexit is done.

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[Hibrandenburg]

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Do you mean you think there are a higher proportion of the 80% willing to positively and actively embrace immigration and welcome immigrants compared to Englands 80%?

That and there's more of the 80% willing to shout racism down.

[Jack]

Eurostar is to suspend its direct train service between London and Disneyland Paris.

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New rules for visitors to the EU are due to come into force by the end of May next year.

The system will mean travellers from outside the bloc must have their fingerprints scanned and photograph taken, instead of having their passport manually stamped.

[grunt]

A Brexit football story

Brexit stops Fulham making exciting Justin Kluivert signing even after £8m transfer agreed

https://samacharcentral.com/brexit-s...ootball-sport/

[Kato]

"Festival of Brexit" a total flop.

I thought it was going to be a huge display of everything that is great and cutting edge about Britain and being British, showing how brilliant we are at being the best at everything.

Turns out it's just a ferago of crap that no one is interested in. Maybe people have got one eye on 120% of their income going on making a bit toast.

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/stat...fpOq4XbUg&s=19


Did anyone on here who is "proud to be british" attend any of the events.

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[Ozyhibby]

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"Festival of Brexit" a total flop.

I thought it was going to be a huge display of everything that is great and cutting edge about Britain and being British, showing how brilliant we are at being the best at everything.

Turns out it's just a ferago of crap that no one is interested in. Maybe people have got one eye on 120% of their income going on making a bit toast.

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/stat...fpOq4XbUg&s=19


Did anyone on here who is "proud to be british" attend any of the events.

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Was the Festival of Brexit more expensive than our ferries?


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[Kato]

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Was the Festival of Brexit more expensive than our ferries?


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4 times the amount of the Platinium Jubilee which celebrated a lady keeping a metal hat on her head for a very long time.

Doesn't matter how much it cost. Tory Govt chucks a billion here, 37 billion there no one gives a monkeys.

Only the SNP wastes money.

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[Jack]

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"Festival of Brexit" a total flop.

I thought it was going to be a huge display of everything that is great and cutting edge about Britain and being British, showing how brilliant we are at being the best at everything.

Turns out it's just a ferago of crap that no one is interested in. Maybe people have got one eye on 120% of their income going on making a bit toast.

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/stat...fpOq4XbUg&s=19


Did anyone on here who is "proud to be british" attend any of the events.

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Cost £120,000,000; 238,000 visitors. Over £500 each!

[ronaldo7]

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Cost £120,000,000; 238,000 visitors. Over £500 each!

Just think how many kettles they could have purchased with that.

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-customer-left

A Kent brewery chosen to help champion export opportunities for the government after Brexit has revealed that burdensome customs checks and paperwork have left it with just one remaining customer in the EU.

The Old Dairy Brewery in Kent – a Department for International Trade export champion for the south-east – appeared in a government video last year promoting the potential to boost Brexit export sales.

However its exports of bottled and keg Kent ale to countries including Italy, Germany and Sweden have slumped since the UK left the EU because of the onerous paperwork.

The brewery now has just one EU customer, a Berlin pub operator who travels to England by van to pick up the beer. The value of the Kent brewery’s annual beer exports have fallen from £600,000 to £2,000.

[cabbageandribs1875]

oops already mentioned, sorry :)

[Kato]

A Brexit bonus identified at last.

https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/s...42merrVig&s=19

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Two headlines, separated by 4 years

[Just Alf]

In other news...

There’s a fresh EU offer on the NI border. Can ERG-backed Truss accept?

https://twitter.com/edinnews/status/...lwb12u04Q&s=19

[Kato]

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In other news...

There’s a fresh EU offer on the NI border. Can ERG-backed Truss accept?

https://twitter.com/edinnews/status/...lwb12u04Q&s=19

My bet? An offer from the EU isn't going to acceptable. Mainly for the reason that it is from the EU.

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Liz Truss, "One thing I absolutely don't support is a windfall tax."

Ursula von der Leyen, "Profits must be shared and channeled to those who need it most."

Anyone else want to #RejoinEU?

[Colr]

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There’s a solid 20% who just don’t like immigrants, either culturally or economically. That was the essence of Brexit for some voters and those people up here OR down south will continue to support it from that standpoint (whether they care if these immigrants are now coming from outside the EU or from the EU itself depends on the individual xénophobe, I suppose). There are just as many of these people in Scotland as there is in England, polling shows.

https://www.bl.uk/britishlibrary/~/media/bl/global/social-welfare/pdfs/non-secure/d/o/s/do-scotland-and-england-and-wales-have-different-views-about-immigration-18.pdf

I recall a broad survey of political opinion across Europe which concluded that 20% of people are basically authoritarian fascists. A similar amount must be gullible fools as well.

[JimBHibees]

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Cost £120,000,000; 238,000 visitors. Over £500 each!

Target visitor numbers was 66m people

[hibsbollah]

I didn’t realise this. Important to remember

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-h_raYhcIkredg

[Bostonhibby]

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I didn’t realise this. Important to remember

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...-h_raYhcIkredg

Does this mean he will be doing the pro Britannia/ Brexit supporting bit by returning his hedge fund profits gleaned from the country he presumably is a patriot of?

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[Kato]

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Does this mean he will be doing the pro Britannia/ Brexit supporting bit by returning his hedge fund profits gleaned from the country he presumably is a patriot of?

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He hates this country.

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[hibsbollah]

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Does this mean he will be doing the pro Britannia/ Brexit supporting bit by returning his hedge fund profits gleaned from the country he presumably is a patriot of?

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No. Because it’s not his fault. It’s Remainers fault that Brexiteers did Brexit and bet against our currency before flogging it and stealing the profits from the U.K. economy. It’s you and me and other Remainers that should be paying for it.

[grunt]

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No. Because it’s not his fault. It’s Remainers fault that Brexiteers did Brexit and bet against our currency before flogging it and stealing the profits from the U.K. economy. It’s you and me and other Remainers that should be paying for it.

Well he got that bit right.