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    You seem to have read the second line without noticing that it was a question.
    To answer your question no it was nothing to do with the tories or mogg, as she could have worked remotely. It was completely her fault, as she gallivanted about town whilst positive with a killer disease pre vaccination. I'm sure you'd agree.

    Done to death. Her fault totally disgusting actions, but nothing to do with the snp directly


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    Can the NHS strike?

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    Sometimes you need to understand what a question looks like.
    Nobody seriously believes the question was asked as anything more than a lame attempt to apportion blame to the Tories. When the opening sentence of a post states 'I haven't been following this story' any subsequent question to be asked might be along the lines of 'can anyone fill me in on the details?', not a poorly veiled attempt at deflection.

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    To answer your question no it was nothing to do with the tories or mogg, as she could have worked remotely. It was completely her fault, as she gallivanted about town whilst positive with a killer disease pre vaccination. I'm sure you'd agree.

    Done to death. Her fault totally disgusting actions, but nothing to do with the snp directly
    Absolutely. There are no redeeming factors at play here.

    Had she resigned I might have had a degree of sympathy, based on an assumption she was bitterly regretting a really stupid mistake. However, her reckless behaviour and seeming total absence of remorse leave no room for any sort of compassion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Nobody seriously believes the question was asked as anything more than a lame attempt to apportion blame to the Tories. When the opening sentence of a post states 'I haven't been following this story' any subsequent question to be asked might be along the lines of 'can anyone fill me in on the details?', not a poorly veiled attempt at deflection.


    You seem to know better what I meant than I do. And I wrote it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Absolutely. There are no redeeming factors at play here.

    Had she resigned I might have had a degree of sympathy, based on an assumption she was bitterly regretting a really stupid mistake. However, her reckless behaviour and seeming total absence of remorse leave no room for any sort of compassion.
    You seem much happier attacking the man/woman rather that what he actually said. Now that it's been pointed out to you that he didn't actually say what you thought he did, you've gone and done a reverse Tory and claim that what he/she said was taken out of context. Surely he/she will know better than you what they meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    Nobody seriously believes the question was asked as anything more than a lame attempt to apportion blame to the Tories. When the opening sentence of a post states 'I haven't been following this story' any subsequent question to be asked might be along the lines of 'can anyone fill me in on the details?', not a poorly veiled attempt at deflection.
    Depends how you view it i suppose.

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    This is good news. The Scottish Govt being asked to account for all its CV19 spending. I take it that means all uk govts will be doing the same.

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    SNP are lying b******s as well !

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    About as close to zero chance as you can get. Even in that article she is giving it the ‘poor me’ routine. No leader ever does that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    This is good news. The Scottish Govt being asked to account for all its CV19 spending. I take it that means all uk govts will be doing the same.

    https://twitter.com/MrKeenan0/status...x0Z_s9BQw&s=19
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    Any evidence of any ministers pub landlords being awarded multi million pound contracts to supply PPE that mostly didn't work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    About as close to zero chance as you can get. Even in that article she is giving it the ‘poor me’ routine. No leader ever does that.


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    Far too divisive also. Need to be be a little central to lead independence movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    I don't have much a problem with much of what she's saying there tbh.

    Contested leadership contests are good and the SNP look to be desperately short of leadership candidates.

    Times change, people mellow. Whilst she's certainly not flavour of the month right now, that might change over time. She's certainly a very intelligent and formidable person and the gender debate might change in nature over time so someone with her beliefs finds themselves either 'in the right" or cancelled altogether.

    And it's not necessarily always about middle ground and submitting to majorities. If she were to become leader it might be much more about taking it in a particular direction and asking "who is with me"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    I don't have much a problem with much of what she's saying there tbh.

    Contested leadership contests are good and the SNP look to be desperately short of leadership candidates.

    Times change, people mellow. Whilst she's certainly not flavour of the month right now, that might change over time. She's certainly a very intelligent and formidable person and the gender debate might change in nature over time so someone with her beliefs finds themselves either 'in the right" or cancelled altogether.

    And it's not necessarily always about middle ground and submitting to majorities. If she were to become leader it might be much more about taking it in a particular direction and asking "who is with me"?
    It’s not really about policy, not even the trans issue. She just isn’t a people person and is too adversarial to take people with her.
    I’m not sure how SNP leadership elections work but it’s fair to say her chances are diminished if she doesn’t enjoy the support of her parliamentary colleagues.


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    https://mobile.twitter.com/MartynMcL...55612230647809

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/MartynMcL...55612230647809

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    His article would have merit if it gave any background into the procurement process and how the offer from these providers sat in the market.
    The article points out quite clearly it was contingent workers during pandemic. Some sort of analysis of the cost of the Scottish government and NHS dealing with the recruitment and payroll process compared to using an agency would be helpful.

    Without any of that it's really just uninformed chutney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/MartynMcL...55612230647809

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    It's probably not possible to procure much these days at that level without it somehow touching some tory bigwig.

    I'd also be very surprised if an official procurement procedure was followed. Audit Scotland will tell us in the future if that wasn't the case however I doubt we'll hear that it's dodgy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Sex pests are abhorrent in any shape or form, but using stories like this to try and score cheap political points seems a bit silly to me.

    *I don't have time to search for the details but I'm sure there's another poster on here ( I think from memory he claims to be ex Police or something along those lines) and he seems to always be first to post stories like this.
    It's almost as if he takes great delight in searching for sex pest stories which contain an SNP involvement, however flimsy that involvement may be, so he can then post it on here.

    Strange behaviour, but that's seems to be his thing.


    You've beat him to it this time though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaststand View Post
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    Sex pests are abhorrent in any shape or form, but using stories like this to try and score cheap political points seems a bit silly to me.

    *I don't have time to search for the details but I'm sure there's another poster on here ( I think from memory he claims to be ex Police or something along those lines) and he seems to always be first to post stories like this.
    It's almost as if he takes great delight in searching for sex pest stories which contain an SNP involvement, however flimsy that involvement may be, so he can then post it on here.

    Strange behaviour, but that's seems to be his thing.


    You've beat him to it this time though.

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    Whoever do you mean? Sounds like a real Percy Sugden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaststand View Post
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    Sex pests are abhorrent in any shape or form, but using stories like this to try and score cheap political points seems a bit silly to me.

    *I don't have time to search for the details but I'm sure there's another poster on here ( I think from memory he claims to be ex Police or something along those lines) and he seems to always be first to post stories like this.
    It's almost as if he takes great delight in searching for sex pest stories which contain an SNP involvement, however flimsy that involvement may be, so he can then post it on here.

    Strange behaviour, but that's seems to be his thing.


    You've beat him to it this time though.

    GGTTH
    You probably mean me… so obviously now you are suggesting if anything that appears on a newsfeed, that does not show the SNP in a shining light, should not be reposted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    You probably mean me… so obviously now you are suggesting if anything that appears on a newsfeed, that does not show the SNP in a shining light, should not be reposted.
    How does this case show the SNP in a bad light?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    How does this case show the SNP in a bad light?


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    Another SNP Party member behaving like a Sex Pest after party business is hardly a beacon of virtue….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    Another SNP Party member behaving like a Sex Pest after party business is hardly a beacon of virtue….
    Did the SNP condone the behaviour?


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    There is regular baiting and disgust when there is a story of a tory sex pest. They have nothing to do with Conservatives as a party and either do the stories about snp people caught doing the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Did the SNP condone the behaviour?


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    I very much doubt it, all I have read is what was in the article and I assume he was required to resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    There is regular baiting and disgust when there is a story of a tory sex pest. They have nothing to do with Conservatives as a party and either do the stories about snp people caught doing the same
    I agree except when the party is seen to condone the behaviour or help cover it up. That happens a lot with the Tories. Less so with the SNP. Although Grady wasn’t handled properly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Berwickhibby View Post
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    You probably mean me… so obviously now you are suggesting if anything that appears on a newsfeed, that does not show the SNP in a shining light, should not be reposted.
    I'm suggesting nothing even remotely close to what you just said, but I think you already know that.

    I'd say anyone who can read this forum is likely to be more than capable of reading their own news stories and forming their own opinions of sex pests, or indeed of any other topic.

    Im always glad when criminals especially sex predators are
    caught and dealt with, I'm sure any reasonable person would be.

    I just find it a bit weird that there are people with what could probably be called an obsession, trawling around the internet looking for sex pest stories to try and score cheap political points.

    I actually can't recall the username of the person that I referred to in my original post, but if you're a guy who continually searches for sex pest stories with any supposed SNP links, even made up links, to post the stories on this forum then I suppose it could be you.

    GGTTH
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaststand View Post
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    I'm suggesting nothing even remotely close to what you just said, but I think you already know that.

    I'd say anyone who can read this forum is likely to be more than capable of reading their own news stories and forming their own opinions of sex pests, or indeed of any other topic.

    Im always glad when criminals especially sex predators are
    caught and dealt with, I'm sure any reasonable person would be.

    I just find it a bit weird that there are people with what could probably be called an obsession, trawling around the internet looking for sex pest stories to try and score cheap political points.

    I actually can't recall the username of the person that I referred to in my original post, but if you're a guy who continually searches for sex pest stories with any supposed SNP links, even made up links, to post the stories on this forum then I suppose it could be you.

    GGTTH
    It’s even worse when it’s football teams.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eaststand View Post
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    I'm suggesting nothing even remotely close to what you just said, but I think you already know that.

    I'd say anyone who can read this forum is likely to be more than capable of reading their own news stories and forming their own opinions of sex pests, or indeed of any other topic.

    Im always glad when criminals especially sex predators are
    caught and dealt with, I'm sure any reasonable person would be.

    I just find it a bit weird that there are people with what could probably be called an obsession, trawling around the internet looking for sex pest stories to try and score cheap political points.

    I actually can't recall the username of the person that I referred to in my original post, but if you're a guy who continually searches for sex pest stories with any supposed SNP links, even made up links, to post the stories on this forum then I suppose it could be you.

    GGTTH
    I don’t trawl or search, stories pop up on newsfeed and like many on here I share on this board. But again you were straight on the defence, with the tactic of attacking the poster, namely me, as an obsessive for sharing a link at the same time condemning the action of sex pest.

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