SNP are lying b******s as well !

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Context

https://www.bigissue.com/news/housin...u-do-about-it/

also

https://www.bigissue.com/news/housin...ld-hard-facts/

Fair play to the SG for having the lowest level of homelessness in the UK. Will likely be all over the news tonight that.


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She was wrong in what she did, I am not defending that. That doesn’t mean I can’t show some empathy, we aren’t talking about somebody evil here. The world must seem like an exceedingly lonely place for this woman right now. .

..and all I called her was a grifter.. nothing overboard...the world would seem a little kinder to her if she had resigned on the spot given the mood at the time

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Totally agree. The admins were quick to jump to John/James when he complained about similar issues. The posters who have taken gru ta post completely the wrong way are out of order IMO.

Not even similar he was complaining about personal insults, the whole thing about he must be at the shops in particular. Where this is someone putting an opinion that she might have only travelled because she had to go to Westminster. When the fact is she went to the gym and hairdressers whilst waiting for a result before she even travelled to work.

Cummings was disgusting and could have cost people there lives when not isolating, ferries the same. As others have said its really indefensible. Just because the tories were acting like **** bags at the same time is irregardless, the rest of us were following the rules

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Not even similar he was complaining about personal insults, the whole thing about he must be at the shops in particular. Where this is someone putting an opinion that she might have only travelled because she had to go to Westminster. When the fact is she went to the gym and hairdressers whilst waiting for a result before she even travelled to work.

Cummings was disgusting and could have cost people there lives when not isolating, ferries the same. As others have said its really indefensible. Just because the tories were acting like **** bags at the same time is irregardless, the rest of us were following the rules

I'm confused .. the post I think you're talking about they say it was wrong to travel and only wondered if the fact she had to travel for work may have impacted her attitude overall.

FWIW, Westminster had been operating remotely for a bit if MPs desired, it was only later on that JRM put his foot down... it may even be after this particular event so has no bearing on it at all.

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FWIW, Westminster had been operating remotely for a bit if MPs desired, it was only later on that JRM put his foot down... it may even be after this particular event so has no bearing on it at all.

I said I hadn't been following it closely - yet another part of my post that was roundly ignored by all subsequent posters. So, I don't know whether this event took place before or after JRM enforced attendance.

My point was simply about whether it was helpful for JRM to require attendance when most other office based jobs were WFH.

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I said I hadn't been following it closely - yet another part of my post that was roundly ignored by all subsequent posters. So, I don't know whether this event took place before or after JRM enforced attendance.

My point was simply about whether it was helpful for JRM to require attendance when most other office based jobs were WFH.

I think JRM demanded full return to the HoC in March or April of 2021. Ferrier had a prepared speech to deliver at a debate on the 28th September if I remember.

No excuses but she said she felt OK. She still ignored the advice to isolate.

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I said I hadn't been following it closely - yet another part of my post that was roundly ignored by all subsequent posters. So, I don't know whether this event took place before or after JRM enforced attendance.

My point was simply about whether it was helpful for JRM to require attendance when most other office based jobs were WFH.

It's two separate things. It isn't good that he was pushing people in. Totally separate to that she was disgusting in going to the gym, hairdressers and getting presents for her friend. This is after she had a test because of feeling unwell and before she travelled to work.

Even without that fact she wouldn't of had to go down to London if she was waiting for a result, people were joining debates by video link most of the way through the pandemic.

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Even without that fact she wouldn't of had to go down to London if she was waiting for a result, people were joining debates by video link most of the way through the pandemic.

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I think JRM demanded full return to the HoC in March or April of 2021. Ferrier had a prepared speech to deliver at a debate on the 28th September if I remember.

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He wanted it but there was still video links this year. Regardless she wouldn't have had to travel to work if waiting for the result of a test. Even more regardless is she was going about before she even travelled to London.

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It was September 2020 that she committed the crime

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It was September 2020 that she committed the crime

Oops. May have got my timeline wrong.

Notwithstanding, put yourself in her shoes, have a point to make in a debate, (I don't know what about) and have prepared a speech. Do you abandon the opportunity knowing that, despite feeling fine, you shouldn't travel?

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Oops. May have got my timeline wrong.

Notwithstanding, put yourself in her shoes, have a point to make in a debate, (I don't know what about) and have prepared a speech. Do you abandon the opportunity knowing that, despite feeling fine, you shouldn't travel?

Yup, you do.

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Oops. May have got my timeline wrong.

Notwithstanding, put yourself in her shoes, have a point to make in a debate, (I don't know what about) and have prepared a speech. Do you abandon the opportunity knowing that, despite feeling fine, you shouldn't travel?

Yes. I also wouldn't go to the gym or a haircut.

This isn't an snp action its one person's selfish decision.

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Just so we know what level of attendance was expected by JRM

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https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/...-arrangements/


Just so we know what level of attendance was expected by JRM

So she could have given her statements remotely in line with public health guidelines. Regardless of work just as big was going shopping for friends ect when she had symptoms and was waiting a result

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Oops. May have got my timeline wrong.

Notwithstanding, put yourself in her shoes, have a point to make in a debate, (I don't know what about) and have prepared a speech. Do you abandon the opportunity knowing that, despite feeling fine, you shouldn't travel?

Ok in her shoes in the middle of a pandemic…feeling Ill, tested positive for Covid 19, then travels on public transport …. Worse than Cummings in my book…as he traveled in a private car….

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Ok in her shoes in the middle of a pandemic…feeling Ill, tested positive for Covid 19, then travels on public transport …. Worse than Cummings in my book…as he traveled in a private car….

I agree. There is no defence for this behaviour.


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I agree. There is no defence for this behaviour.


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Indeed. What happened to that MP Peter Gibson who got a train home from London to Darlington so he could isolate?

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Ok in her shoes in the middle of a pandemic…feeling Ill, tested positive for Covid 19, then travels on public transport …. Worse than Cummings in my book…as he traveled in a private car….

Yup.. bang on...

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Indeed. What happened to that MP Peter Gibson who got a train home from London to Darlington so he could isolate?

He got away with it because it was before the first lockdown and there was no rules yet I think. Although was there not another tory who went shopping while waiting for results. All these are individual cases like ferrier and I don't think you can blame the parties. Talking of parties you can blame the tories for having weekly yeehaas while the rest of us tried our best to stick to the rules

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He got away with it because it was before the first lockdown and there was no rules yet I think. Although was there not another tory who went shopping while waiting for results. All these are individual cases like ferrier and I don't think you can blame the parties. Talking of parties you can blame the tories for having weekly yeehaas while the rest of us tried our best to stick to the rules

Wasn't there also an MP who travelled from London to a manor house in Buckinghamshire when he was supposed to be isolating?

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Yes. I also wouldn't go to the gym or a haircut.

This isn't an snp action its one person's selfish decision.

Or attend church, including giving a reading to the congregation, followed by two hours in a bar. The list of excursions she took is extraordinary.

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Oops. May have got my timeline wrong.

Notwithstanding, put yourself in her shoes, have a point to make in a debate, (I don't know what about) and have prepared a speech. Do you abandon the opportunity knowing that, despite feeling fine, you shouldn't travel?

There are no excuses or mitigating factors for what she did. If she was a Tory doubt you'd even ask the question.

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Ok in her shoes in the middle of a pandemic…feeling Ill, tested positive for Covid 19, then travels on public transport …. Worse than Cummings in my book…as he traveled in a private car….

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I haven't been paying attention to this story.

But does it come down to the fact that she travelled to Westminster when she was ill because Rees-Mogg wouldn't allow the House of Commons to sit remotely?

It seems to me she is paying a huge price - admittedly she was wrong to travel - but I don't anywhere see any discussion about why Parliament couldn't have continued to operate remotely?

Maybe I'm wrong.

If only they'd read your first line, they might have been able to help. But no. They think you're making a political point, and jump all over it.

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If only they'd read your first line, they might have been able to help. But no. They think you're making a political point, and jump all over it.

How's it political. People of all parties are saying its disgraceful. Boris and Cummings has been brought up as well as tories that have done things. If anything it's not political as you cant blame the snp. I think the ones trying to find mitigating factors are the only ones playing political sides

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How's it political. People of all parties are saying its disgraceful. Boris and Cummings has been brought up as well as tories that have done things. If anything it's not political as you cant blame the snp. I think the ones trying to find mitigating factors are the only ones playing political sides

Anyone reading his post, after this first line would understand that he wasn't following the story, and yet you say he was trying to defend her. He wasn't. As far as I can see he was trying to understand the story, not to defend anyone.

You'd made your mind up.

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If only they'd read your first line, they might have been able to help. But no. They think you're making a political point, and jump all over it.

Nobody failed to read the first line. It's the second line and its laughable (in the sense that it made me laugh when I read it) attempt to pin the blame for her behaviour on Rees-Mogg that's the issue.

Sometimes it's OK to just accept that somebody with connections to the SNP did something wrong without trying to shoehorn the Tories into it.

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Nobody failed to read the first line. It's the second line and its laughable (in the sense that it made me laugh when I read it) attempt to pin the blame for her behaviour on Rees-Mogg that's the issue.

You seem to have read the second line without noticing that it was a question.

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Nobody failed to read the first line. It's the second line and its laughable (in the sense that it made me laugh when I read it) attempt to pin the blame for her behaviour on Rees-Mogg that's the issue.

Sometimes it's OK to just accept that somebody with connections to the SNP did something wrong without trying to shoehorn the Tories into it.

Sometimes you need to understand what a question looks like.