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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    If under 21 or not full time surely, as that is below minimum wage ?
    Most of the entry level operatives come through the apprenticeship scheme, so that would make sense.
    When they've done their time and all the basic technical and track safety training, they'd move on to a Basic Trackman grade (if the position is available) which is £24.9K. It's these particular grades that the NR hierarchy are trying to decimate by pooling these grades from all the various and highly specialist disciplines, placing in to one big pot, cut the numbers, then make whoever's left available to to be utilised by whatever discipline requires them. Even trying to keep an open mind, the plan is not feasible. I'm sure there are many other industries out there that have specialism within. An obvious one would be nursing, probably the most junior grade within the NHS. We wouldn't pool all nursing together, ignore their specialist background, and expect them to perform at their very best working in departments they had never have seen before?
    Maybe a weak analogy but hopefully you get my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Most of the entry level operatives come through the apprenticeship scheme, so that would make sense.
    When they've done their time and all the basic technical and track safety training, they'd move on to a Basic Trackman grade (if the position is available) which is £24.9K. It's these particular grades that the NR hierarchy are trying to decimate by pooling these grades from all the various and highly specialist disciplines, placing in to one big pot, cut the numbers, then make whoever's left available to to be utilised by whatever discipline requires them. Even trying to keep an open mind, the plan is not feasible. I'm sure there are many other industries out there that have specialism within. An obvious one would be nursing, probably the most junior grade within the NHS. We wouldn't pool all nursing together, ignore their specialist background, and expect them to perform at their very best working in departments they had never have seen before?
    Maybe a weak analogy but hopefully you get my point.
    No it's a poor wage for the risk to yourself and the standard needed to protect the safety of others. Especially with nightshift added and the strain it brings. A few in the cabinet should do a few nightshifts with them shadowing, although I'm sure the railway workers wouldn't want the bafoons near something so important

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